Gejnor posted:

Game of the year.

Magni posted:

And that's a wrap for my Mazdamundi campaign.

Also, geez Maz really doesn't like Skaven:


I mean, yikes, that's pretty loving direct.

Tenzarin posted:

You are in a permawar with them after it.

Tenzarin posted:

I think you can make peace with your same race, I didn't try.

Third World Reggin posted:

lol

it is a joke about how when radious is mentioned, people come out of the wood works to talk poo poo about it instead of just ignoring it and also promoting a different mod that does similar things and was also produced by a nazi

sassassin posted:

Radious thinks all races are equal while SFO certainly doesn't.

Third World Reggin posted:

For a long time people said it did not add units, then it add units, yah, it does similar things

I get it, instead of making fun of a unit list I posted people have to make not jokes.

JBP posted:

That's not exactly that arduous though. CA also said you can fine tune your own victory conditions as well. Empire expanding overseas makes sense and I'm sure there is a reason for them to want to take that territory.

Also if taking a particular territory or whatever to win the game is a chore, why are you playing?

e: like this is the mega campaign, of course the elves want to go to Everpeak. Someone needs to finally settle the war of the beards.

Kanos posted:

The Skaven food mechanic honestly feels poorly thought out. It seems to be intended for you to care about balancing it, but with the way it works that's kind of impossible if you decide to go wide and map paint because of the flat penalty for every settlement under your control. You can mitigate it to some extent by making some nothing armies and raiding constantly but the wider you go the less that works because the % upkeep increase for more lords rapidly renders escalation in number of raiding armies unsustainable.

I pretty much just resigned to having it permanently at the worst possible level and not interacting with it anymore, considering that conquering Lustria will sit you at like -45 per turn just from settlements and I get about 22 food for killing 4000 people in a battle.

Fans posted:

A SSD seemed to speed turn times up to make them almost trivial for me, never had an issue with Attila either

Ham Sandwiches posted:

Hm yes imagine if people had been commenting and offering their opinions on the map for a day or two in the thread dedicated to the game here at Something Awful, and then this video came out and they ever so slightly had to revise their previous statements. It's a good thing didn't happen, it would have been catastrophic.

Rookersh posted:

It looks dumb, and has less information then the WH1 screen.

We've lost lore, character information, and now have a loving scroll wheel. It's just going to get worse as more races are added as well.

Gejnor posted:

It was someone elses suggestion (on discord no less) but i really liked the idea! I do agree it was a nice and possibly needed upgrade but it did feel a bit too strong, so this is a nice trade-off indeed, im guessing if they are going this route then perhaps if they add a 1 point skill it will further boost your normal dudes + greatswords in some way!

Panfilo posted:

Oh, and it also looks like they changed some hero skills. My runesmith no longer gets a growth passive (which BLOWS, since that could get cranked to +36 growth I think which was hugely beneficial for Dwarves). Nor does he get Immortality as an option which I'm not sure is a bug, intended, or will change when Norsca update drops.

packetmantis posted:

Has that mod that made the Wood Elf minor settlements bigger been updated yet? I feel weird and naked with all these tiny towns.

sassassin posted:

That guy was asking for paypal donations on a mod he stole entire. I posted one comment that that specifically was pretty scummy behaviour.

Gitro posted:

Do you play with the great power penalty? Turning it down/off makes diplomacy way less aggravating. Probably a bit too easy at the backend but really by the time you're past turn 50 it's a question of how much time you're willing to spend navigating the UI, not how much money you have.

Gitro posted:

Idk how, but I managed to replicate the not moving after projectile = no ability cd bug on a new skill. Oh well. It also doesn't seem possible to create recursive projectiles and I'm very sad.


There's a mod that removes diplo rating penalties entirely. I can probably do a variant that just lowers the penalty if that's too much. Be warned: the person that uploaded that is apparently a dirty thief who ported it from someone else's WH1 mod, but the original modder doesn't seem to have uploaded theirs so

Gitro posted:

Took longer than I meant to, but here you go. I'm not exactly sure what the 1 to 1 relationship is between the numbers I changed and what happens when you break treaties (I have a feeling it's number of turns penalised), but I made the big numbers lower and people get less mad when you're a filthy backstabbing liar now. Break trade agreements at will, break NAPs sooner and with less penalty and a few other things.

Senor Dog posted:

Aurubin posted:

Once you complete the 4th ritual you're locked into permanent war with all the vortex seeking factions just to say.

Gay Horney posted:

What's the point of a mechanic that breaks the ai and forces you to sit back with your armies and raid your own poo poo to solve. Food being anything other than juice for menace below was a mistake

Acute Grill posted:

I think each faction has 1 or 2 techs that are disproportionately useful, and everything else literally doesn't matter.

Acute Grill posted:

Personally, those marginal buffs to your basic infantry are the most aggravating. If you research every single one of them and have the right Lord leveled up on their red tree enough your Tier 1 infantry will almost be as good as your Tier 2 infantry. Of course, by this point you're able to recruit full stacks of tier 3 (great weapons and shields) units so that was clearly a great use of your time.

Gejnor posted:

No tuesday newsday today...


Buuut...

Kaza42 posted:

Yeah, this actually might be the issue. I double checked, and the mod maker just posted a comment saying that an update is coming but don't use this mod until then it causes breaks.

Vargs posted:

Didn't have a problem getting Wulfrik's quest sword while using all of those mods except the following:
So I assume the issue is with one of those. Or maybe it's Gelt-specific.

Choyi posted:

Liberate factions mod is cute and all, but I found it was just a hassle to use with the revived ones becomming ur allies, since nearly every time the liberated faction would then either be declared on by my friends or other way around, tanking my diplo rating and not accomplishing anything in terms of bringing that faction back to life.

Choyi posted:

Will that prevent other factions of declaring on your liberated vassal buddy tho? Thought it worked simialr to how it was with allies in that regard.

John Charity Spring posted:

You can make friends with the Bretonnians pretty easily but you'll want to take Parravon at least (you start out at war with them, and have military access through Carcassonne to help) and then maybe taking out Bordeleaux can be good to secure you a port. Keeping the rest sweet is easy, but Carcassonne are likely to get shat on by rats and you can maybe eat up their territory then too, which gives you a nice route to Estalia and all those ports that you can buff up to 400% income through tech.

Alliances will be your big way of getting amber to upgrade the Oak of Ages - Bretonnia, Empire, and Dwarfs are all prime candidates for this. It's up to you whether you make friends with the high elves or not, but I recommend at least taking Avelorn if you can, and if you're really ambitious then Lothern itself is worthwhile for you too as it (like Gaean Vale in Avelorn) is a full-fledged settlement, not just an outpost. The Herald of the Hunt office is really good and gives huge bonuses for the herald's army every so often, so make use of that. All your archers are super good. Eternal Guard with shields are a very competent frontline, and you can use wardancers and wildwood rangers as specialists of a sort (office holders can buff them up a lot). Wild Riders are incredibly good 'light' cavalry and glade riders are probably the easiest to use ranged cavalry in the game thanks to their long range. Favour the red melee line of lord skills to boost every single unit's armour and attack. Your armies will punch way above their weight.

When it comes to amber management, aim to keep a reasonable surplus (at least 10) once this is feasible. By the time you can confederate your fellow wood elves, they'll probably have tier 5 settlements, which means a net loss in amber when you confederate, so be careful with that - but confederation is extremely worthwhile anyway and will supercharge your economy and all that.

All in all you're well placed to do a lot of things as Orion. Don't worry too much about the weakness of outposts - you can deal with it and wood elves are a really fun Mortal Empires campaign regardless.