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Fat Twitter Man posted:Bundt Cake needs to defend his assertion that LHW was once good and that 205 nostalgia is not just the product of once having an entertaining champion plus a handful of "name" guys who got famous knocking out tiny Japanese pro wrestlers my first point would be that the guys from the last couple generations never got beat out of the division they just got old and their bodies broke. no new wave of fighters beat them until they washed out. only cormier, jones, and gustaffson seemed to separate themselves as having that talent level. cormiers just as old tho haha
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Neurosis posted:I think Magny has graduated from tuneup to threat to anyone not on their game. It'll be an interesting fight, Carlos' huge cardio advantage won't be there, but I suspect his offence is too good and varied for him to not be able to force Magny to slow down by landing and take over through that. yeah agree. to me magny being hungry and carlos not even 100% wanting to keep fighting isnt good for carlos
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neither one beat the highest form of vitor so deep down i think both are b-grade champs
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I.N.R.I posted:for like 10 years until 2016 vitor only lost to jones, silva + i think weidman and he very nearly got jones. its hard to say he wasnt great but when people say stupid stuff like everyone in professional sport is on steroids or other peds, i wonder why then do people like vitor seem to benefit from them far more than everyone else. its how he lost. he definitively proved exactly where he stood. Every single vitor fight happened like this. A class talent whooped him. B class talent he had a real chance of KOing in the first round. Stuff below that he'd eat up. between the trash and the treasure. he did have a great career but he got caught roiding over and over and his peak happened before he was 21
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Gay Horney posted:Imagine getting a title shot you objectively don't deserve with the potential, should you win that title shot, of securing the single most lucrative fight in combats sports, and then missing weight for that title shot. oh no im travis lutter
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literally cut a pound off his body
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also did he try resting his arm on the towel yet
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barnett roiding is an integral part of hw history
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Fat Twitter Man posted:I'm busting my brain trying to think how Penn or Shogun could have had better careers. Penn's biggest problem was lack of competition at 145/155 which made him do things like fight at heavyweight. Shogun even came back to win the UFC title after getting written off as washed up. The only thing there is to say about those guys is that they peaked really young. what if shoguns knees didnt break what if bj had got the armbar on jens even 1 second earlier in their first fight? can't remember which round but jens tapped at the bell. also what if BJ didn't leave UFC
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what if barnett didn't take roids is too big of a what if imo
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Fat Twitter Man posted:If shogun's knees didn't break he wouldn't have lost to Forrest, could have gotten the LHW title from Rampage, then got outwrestled by Rashad to lose it. Or maybe beaten Rashad and Machida before being crushed by JBJ I think BJ probably wouldve had some ups and downs as WW champ if he hadn't left, and as LW champ if he'd gotten the sub on jens or gotten the W against Uno. But I think hed have fought some more relevant guys. Its ballsy to fight Rodrigo Gracie if you're BJ but no one even really knows who rodrigo is now because he never fought enough to get the rep he should've had. BJ v machida and Gomi are great performances and curiosities but its mostly the novelty of those fights, cuz neither of those guys was an elite world class fighter when bj met them.
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vainman posted:Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. I also think fighting heavyweights is a better legacy then beating uno a bunch more times or whatever A W over Pulver or Uno in those title fights and he'd have a lot better reputation. He was supposed to win them and he lost.
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Hughes, gsp, chuck, aldo, and anderson probably have the best reigns imo mighty johnson perhaps #6  oh and jon jones, yuck
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Good thing hes fighting Michael Bisping
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^^^dad mark coleman was still pretty goodMr. Nice! posted:He looks like a 4/5ths size chuck liddell With short arms
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freud mayweather posted:in later GSP fights he was markedly worse at completing takedowns, because his shots weren't nearly as fast and he wasn't covering the same distance. he was getting takedowns stuffed by Nick Diaz, so he probably doesn't have a chance of taking down Bisping. makes sense to me
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I can follow everyones explanations for why GSP is going to have a hard time but its mike bisping and I wouldnt be shocked if slower, less gas gsp wipes the floor with him
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1st AD posted:I think it is entirely possible that this will be a plodding bad fight and Bisping wins with a late and underwhelming finish. if gsp gets worn out and bisping finishes him thatd be kinda cool
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Oct 16, 2017 18:43
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i hope uriah wins. hes cool to watch
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Oct 19, 2017 21:12
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Noctone posted:Cody absolutely clowned Cruz and could've easily TKO'd him at several points in the fight, so I'll believe TJ has something for him when I see it. Cruz and TJ are much different strikers. TJ has power that Cruz doesn't for one. Cruz tries to stick and move the whole time. TJs less elusive but just as disciplined. Generally I also think TJ adapts more to his opponent, where cruz is more about doing his thing.
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robert whittaker looks like he will beat up mike bisping
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Marching Powder posted:bisping is a way better technical striker than anyone whittaker has made look stupid except maybe for uriah hall who has his own set of problems. i said it when the fight might happen but if they fought i see it going to a close split decision. i like whittaker in the fight because they both basically use hands 80%+(made up number) of the time, and whittakers showed a lot more diverse and sophisticated stuff IMO
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