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DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

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kensei posted:

N: [url=http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/20864646/conor-mcgregor-long-list-next-potential-opponent]


V: Fooking :lol: If Conor is booked against Khabib we'll never ever see either of them fight in the Octagon again.

I like Conor's style of trash talk, where he says things that don't make sense and periodically slips in an insult. I don't mean that sarcastically it's really effective, because it makes the other guy's response gibberish and and makes them mad at the same time. Diaz made him look stupid by just ignoring him and insulting him instead of responding, but most people get flustered. Like, if you try and respond by pointing out that if everyone else is a bum and everyone he fights is trash, his achievements are meaningless and all that poo poo about challenging himself makes no sense, he'll just say he forgot your name and call you poor

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DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Gay Horney posted:

Imagine getting a title shot you objectively don't deserve with the potential, should you win that title shot, of securing the single most lucrative fight in combats sports, and then missing weight for that title shot.

Lol

The most lucrative fight in combat sports is talking Mayweather out of retirement again, or alternately getting Donald Trump to fight you in WWE

kimbo305 posted:

I've done it twice for amateur tournaments. My experience is not broadly applicable, obviously, but here goes.

I was fighting at 187, and the weigh in was 4pm the day before. Fights were in the morning, so not quite the full day or 36 hours that you now could conceivably get as a pro.

First time, I ate very little the last 2 days, cut sodium, and flew to the venue at about 192 the night before. Didn't drink water the morning of the weigh-in, left the AC off in the Texas heat driving to the airport and waiting for my coach to land. Hit 187 just from sweating. Felt sore and wrung out in my first fight, worse than at any point in training camp.

2nd time, I wanted to eat more leading up and cut more water weight. Flew in at 196 night before; woke up 194, got to about 192 before getting in the tub. If you've watched TUF, you knew the recipe -- hot water, epsom salt, green rubbing alcohol.

First session is 20min. I'm already thirsty when I get in, and I feel my body recoil in protest at water being pumped out of my skin against its will. It's hot, I'm parched, but I still have to keep force sweating it out. Time's up. Get out, 190 or so. Hmm, less than I was hoping for. Towel off. Stand on the balcony of the hotel and dry out.
2nd session is 15min. I'm trying to read Kindle on my phone, with the timer going. Got the ice bag on my head. I try to read a few minutes at a time, but the intense heat and exertion of... just fighting the osmosis is really hard on my mind. I stop reading the Kindle and just concentrate on not giving up.
I check the clock frequently. I look at the clock 7 times in the last minue of the session, hoping each time that it'll be over.
Towel off, dry out, check weight. 188. The one thing in the world I didn't want is happening -- I'm going back in.

3rd session.
I don't want to take any chances and get out heavy again. It's just too big of a toll psychologically. I'd much rather come out light than do another session.
The ice in the ice bag is melted and not keeping my head cool. My body is drying up and not sweating as much -- can't tell if that's real or just my perception. Either way, I'm burning up in the water. My heartbeat throbs through my neck, beating fast to compensate for the dehydration. I'm looking at my phone but incapable of thinking. My vision darkens a little bit at times. I prepare to flop out of the tub if it blacks out too far. I don't know how far is too far, though, because I want to make weight, and I have an irrational dedication to that goal.
My teammate calls from the room and asks if I'm doing ok. I grunt.
Finally, my time is up. I don't want to rush anything so I just raise my chest and knees out of the water. The relief is like nothing else.
I try to slowly stand up to get out of the tub. I of course immediately get light-headed. I sit down hard on the toilet to recover. It takes me another 30s of waiting and cooling off before I get up to towel off. Dry out. Creep onto the scale. 186.4. Ok. Done. Don't care that I let down General Ripper and gave up an extra half pound of water.

Now we trudge over to the official weigh-in and hope there's not a huge line (there is). End up weighing 186.2 on the official scale.
But my mind has long since forgotten about the bath and moved onto the fight.

I'm a lot smaller but I used to cut to 124 (? I think? its been a good while, it was maybe 125?) from the upper 130s to low 140s, usually about 10 pounds in the last day and half. There were definitely bigger guys who cut more and I was not in a hardcore state for wrestling. It's easy for me to imagine someone doubling that if they started out 40 pounds heavier. I feel like you must have been pretty dry at 192 if 5 pounds was a rough cut for you.

edit: i misread, the tough cut was more like 10 pounds. Maybe starting weight counts for less than I would think. Or maybe being a stupid teenager counts for more.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

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Bundt Cake posted:

^^^dad mark coleman was still pretty good


With short arms

GSP is listed at 4 inches shorter than Liddell with the same reach

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

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Yeah like height in the NBA the numbers are obviously part hype, that's why I said "listed at". He's always looked like a gangly armed weirdo to me though, which helps a lot with his particular style of jabs and doubles from maximum distance.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

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I.N.R.I posted:

ill be amazed if he looks good. hes coming from a very high place so it might be possible, i just personally doubt it. if theres a sport it can be done in though its fighting

Jordan did it in basketball, though tbf GSP's layoff has been ~2x as long

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