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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Naked Bear posted:

Have we mentioned that OJ is out on parole now?

The Juice is lose!

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Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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:stare:

gently caress.

EDIT: The dude at :50 who's running with his beer. loving DROP IT AND RUN, MORON.


Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Oct 2, 2017

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

That's actual automatic weapon fire.


Oh I know, as soon as I heard the shots my brain went "well that's not a modded rifle."


Trying to guess what it might be based on the sound. RPK maybe? As others said, didn't sound like a 5.56.

Handsome Ralph
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Yeah, and an extremely expensive tax stamp IIRC. Gun club I used to shoot at owned a .50 M2 that was purchased through member donations (the stamp was more expensive than the gun) and shot it off once a month or so.

Handsome Ralph
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MazelTovCocktail posted:

Stamp is the same $200 for all NFA stuff except some AOWs.

Ah, well the more you know then.

Still, what the gently caress.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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So does anyone know if LVPD encrypts their comms? I know some PDs do while other's don't.

Only reason I ask is that from what it sounds like, dude domed himself before the SWAT team even entered the room. Maybe he figured out from listening to a scanner that his time was up and did it then.


God dammit this sucks.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Guy's brother just said he wasn't a gun nut or former military, so that kinda makes things a little more :stare:


Then again, hearing the footage with shots, the former military part isn't a shocker since it sounds like he wasn't firing in bursts but just letting it rip for random intervals.

Handsome Ralph
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Proud Christian Mom posted:

to be fair i bet the guy's brother doesn't think 10+ firearms is 'gun nut' territory

This is probably true.

Handsome Ralph
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quote:

In a statement, Lockheed Martin, the defense giant, said that Paddock worked for them for three years in the 1980s.

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Duzzy Funlop posted:

Outside of politicizing the thing in a loving heartbeat, it's also incredibly dumb. She's broken.

Yeah that.

Like, I don't disagree with the notion that the NRA is loving terrible, and I'm on board with the idea of gun control legislation (not opening that can of worms, just saying the idea alone doesn't bother me specifically), but as much as I hate the Republican talking point of "THIS ISN'T THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS!" in regards to natural disaster relief when a natural disaster is unfolding they are kinda right about this one.

Like a few days from now, sure, absolutely it should be discussed, but we're not even 12 hours out from the event.

EDIT: Also, I'm seeing people really reach with the silencer talk. Like most of the hot takes about silencers have been from people who clearly have no idea how they work outside of seeing them in movies and video games.

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Oct 2, 2017

Handsome Ralph
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https://twitter.com/dcwoodruff/status/914881616048037889

lol, ok then.

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Hot Karl Marx posted:

I think it's more saying stuff like "more American casualties happened today than any day in Iraq/Afghanistan" kinda ignores that a lot of foreign civilians died to stupid poo poo America caused and they shouldn't be erased.

You're not wrong necessairly, but they're literally getting upset at the fact that Dem Vets are using their experiences serving in Iraq/Afghanistan as basis for the idea that the weapons they used over there shouldn't be readily accessible here.

It's just another circular firing squad, only this time about guns.

Handsome Ralph
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bengy81 posted:

TMZ updated the article and it says they pulled him off life support.

I guess even walls fall down...

Tom Petty you've done gone and broken my heart.


Haven't seen the shooters motive discussed anywhere but he was a apparently a professional gambler, which seems to be likely since he was dating a casino worker and made frequent trips to Vegas according to family. Gonna take a wager on the dude being in deep gambling debt or some such.

Not sure how shooting that many people from a hotel window solves that problem, but welp.

Handsome Ralph
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sharknado slashfic posted:

Heh someone in the gbs thread called this at like noon

Didn't see that, though I've just been skimming that thread for tweets and pics.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Imagine if the shooter had a dragon. Makes u think.

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Mr. Mambold posted:

Bill Clinton, that you?

:lol:

sharknado slashfic posted:

It was just a prediction; I'm more impressed that someone in gbs got something right tbh

Ah. Well in any case, it's not a huge leap to hear a shooting at a casino might be related to someone's gambling problem.

Handsome Ralph
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Saint Celestine posted:

Imagine if everyone DID have a gun. We'd be looking at thousands dead and wounded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0VOM7e5Hug

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

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Wasabi the J posted:

Probably not. That's just unreasonable for a bunch of reasons mainly that it's easier to use the service elevators which are typically semi hidden and behind lock and key to maneuver up and down the tower. There's also camera coverage in those lobbies.

Yeah, was gonna say. Casinos/hotels/resorts pretty much have camera coverage everywhere except for guest rooms (for obvious reasons). I'm guessing if they had any doubts about the safety of offloading on the 32nd floor, they would have found a closer floor to offload at and then go up/down the stairs from there.

Zeroisanumber posted:

Wasn't actually a problem because the smoke from his rounds set off the smoke alarm in his room and the firebox told them exactly which room it was. They still had to clear the whole hotel afterwards, but they had a guy in the stairwell outside of his room pretty quickly.

That poor bastard sounded scared as hell on the scanner, I'm really glad that he waited for the heavy hitters.

On that note if there was one thing that LVPD did wrong that night it was to broadcast the whole incident on their standard channels. CSPAM found the suspect's house on Google just as quickly as the cops did because they broadcast his name and address almost as soon as they were in his room.

I remember thinking that the morning after. That the dude probably domed himself because he heard or surmised from radio chatter that they were closing in on him. Though I would imagine the SWAT team was on a closed/encrypted channel. Now we know it wasn't that and more the knock and announce that alerted him. Guessing that will be something that is addressed in whatever DOJ report that comes from all this.

Speaking of that scanner traffic, is it up anywhere? I'm curious to hear it.

Handsome Ralph
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posted:

Paddock apparently used remote video cameras linked to a tablet in order to keep an eye out for police storming his hotel room, according to two people close to the investigation, who asked not to be identified discussing the ongoing probe.

The idea was apparently to be able to have a security perimeter behind him while he fired down on the crowd – another indication of the planning and forethought Paddock put into the attack. Such a setup would have made it easier for Paddock to know when he was close to being captured.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.98d2f631068b

:stare:

Handsome Ralph
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psydude posted:

It's the Honda Civic of guns. Cheap, customizable, and idolized by insufferable fanboys.

I don't know, the Raspberry Pi of guns is kinda growing on me.

Handsome Ralph
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bengy81 posted:

The INTERNET OF THINGS is going to send me to an early grave. I don't get why people pay money for devices that spy on you so Amazon and Google can target you with more ads.


Sent from my iPhone 6s

:same:

Only net connected devices I own other than the obvious is a Nest thermostat and some hue bulbs, but lol at the idea of putting a hot mic in my house for Amazon or Google to make marketing money off of.

Handsome Ralph
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Am I wrong seeing this,
https://twitter.com/TheRoot/status/915462071956983808

And thinking it's incredibly tone deaf?

I don't disagree that those events were terrible and that they're worth discussing and remembering, but come the gently caress on. It's loving genocide olympics/whataboutism of the dumbest magnitude at this point.

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Seems reasonable to point out that "deadliest mass shooting in US history" actually means "deadliest criminal mass shooting by an individual in modern US history". Plenty of people aren't aware of the massacres in our history that were swept aside with no consequences.

That's fair and fine. Problem is, you will still get people who as soon as you say "deadliest criminal mass shooting" will start to shout you down for "implying" that somehow the Tulsa Race Riots or other massacres weren't criminal or terrible.


I don't think it's unreasonable to remind people that these events occurred, but it just reeks of whataboutism that is anything but helpful right now.

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KirbyKhan posted:

Listen, if you go onto the militant black website that just acquired Very Smart Brothas and recently got bought by Univision, you're gonna get a black as hell story. Seeing as how the shooting happened at a country festival, how are they supposed to tie back to their core audience?

Any time to remind people of the multiple Rosewood massacre is a good time. Wipipo get the gold metal in the genocide Olympics.

I actually saw it reposted by a friend of mine (who is white), as well as seeing a similar talking point pop up across lefty twitter. I get it. They aren't wrong. I just think it's a dumb take and reaction to have at the moment in light of "hey so yeah 60 people are dead from this crazy lone gunman, but that's nothing compared to THIS massacre."

Though now I'm finally starting to see friends on FB post dumb conspiracy bullshit.

So it's probably just me getting tired of everyone inserting their dumb takes into this. I'm just gonna take a break from social media. poo poo ain't worth it.

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at the date posted:

You have no idea what whataboutism means, stop using that word.

Whataboutism is saying "I know we're all talking about X, but what about..." which is what that article is doing. It's not inherently wrong but in most cases it seems to be.

If I'm in the wrong here, then fine, I'm in the wrong. But that is whataboutism.

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Fister Roboto posted:

Whataboutism is a way of dismissing something bad by comparing it to something else. In this case, whataboutism would be saying that this shooting isn't a big deal because the one in Norway was worse. In the article they're not trying to dismiss the gravity of this shooting, but rather pointing out that more qualifiers need to be added to "the deadliest mass shooting in US history" because it's just not accurate.

Alright, that's a fair assesment, and I'll admit I was wrong. I took the article at face value saying that "the shooting isn't as big a deal because of" and they aren't actually saying that.

Mea culpa.

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at the date posted:

And besides, the article is just true. The Root has an agenda but they happen to be 100% right here. You can seriously address the Las Vegas shooting without falsely calling it the worst massacre in US history, and if I were a person whose ancestors were uniquely prone to being massacred I'd probably be pretty ticked off too.

I think my issue wasn't so much with the Root article (because I agree with you, the core point the author makes is correct), but more with how people I know have pushed it as a sort of Genocide Olympics style argument. It left a sour taste in my mouth and rather than read through the entire article with an open mind, I had already arrived at the conclusion the article's author was doing the same thing I'd seen others doing (engaging in Genocide Olympics debate). He's not.

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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

This article was posted by a LAS VEGAS EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE.

I want to face-palm but it's so loving depressing I just want to drink tequila until I'm blind.

I had to delete her along with a few other friends of mine. The rest of whom are veterans who live or have lived in Las Vegas and they're all falling for the same dumb poo poo.

I'm phone posting or I would copy paste some of that poo poo so no one else had to click it.

What kills me is idiots finding news videos of people from immediately after the shooting saying they believed there were two shooters, and using it as definitive proof that there were two shooters and it's a cover up.

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Hexyflexy posted:

Well good luck shooting Jet-A, but gently caress me. That's fairly ambitious.
Unless it was Avgas a bullet won't do crap to it.

Yeah, there's all the proof I need to be like "yeah, the guy was just an untrained rear end in a top hat who just sprayed a lot of fire down on a crowd." whenever I run into any idiot that spouts "ONLY A PROFESSIONAL COULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE DID"

Though part of it is funny to me in that he along with most civilians have the idea that shooting at any fuel tank=automatic explosion. Thanks movies and tv!

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Suicide Watch posted:

Wouldn't incendiary/tracer rounds burn above the 100F flash point of jet A fuel? Although I imagine he'd need armor piercing rounds to pierce the tanks themselves

IDK, maybe. I'm just making fun of the fact that he and most people seem to think that any old rifle or pistol round will cause a massive fuel tank explosion.

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Capn Beeb posted:

Northam is another rear end in a top hat that thinks Virginia is only Richmond and maybe NoVA depending if the mood strikes him. Wouldn't surprise me to see him lose and then act bewildered as to how ignoring the rest of the state was a bad idea.

Speaking of idiot Virginia representatives, Terry McAuliffe is pushing an assault weapons ban in Virginia citing Virginia Tech as reason enough despite the fact that jackass used handguns with ten round magazines.

:shrug: I'd take those two over Gillespie or Cuccinelli any day of the week. Also what Psydude said.

And there's not going to be an assault weapon ban in VA. Not as long as Republicans control the State Assembly and Senate. And even then, I doubt it'd happen as easily as it did in Maryland under O'Malley.

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Diamond Joe was the best candidate that never actually existed.

I'd still take him today.
:same:
Speaking of canidate's that never actually existed.
The Strange Political Afterlife of Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Nick Soapdish posted:

Jokes on you, we're not having (adopting) kids. Government Death Panels will be the end of us.

:same:

Handsome Ralph
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I mean it's not like anything has changed, but what a loving moron.

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So Trump started tweeting dumb poo poo about Bob Corker today.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917026789188399105
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917029060471152640
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917030148867682304

Corker just dropped this gem.

https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920

:perfect:

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Here's a good blend of the two.

https://twitter.com/josiahfartlett/status/917032612320989184

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Third World Reggin posted:

so are echo chambers

congrats, the hbo show targeting a certain group who may not need convincing just got a video and the rest didn't

I don't know what you expect beyond someone leaving this on a racist persons wall, then the racist person unfriending the other person, and no one changed their minds

No, it's probably not gonna change a bunch of racist idiot's minds, but it might make people who sincerely think "well they say it's about heritage and not hate so it must be!" think twice about it and start to wonder.

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FastestGunAlive posted:

You can't. Just like there is no way to convince people that 9/11 and sandy hook were not hoaxes. The best thing to do is get out in front and keep more from joining them rather than trying to fix the ones who are already broke brain

Pretty much this. Oliver's not trying to convince people who actually buy into the idea that the civil war is about states rights. He's reaching out towards people who genuinely don't know and have no strong opinions in either direction.

I know this mind blowing for some but the vast majority of Americans don't hold strong opinions about why the south seceded or the real causes behind the Civil War.

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FAUXTON posted:

I just hit the driving range and go for mini golf every once in a while

You get like 40% of the game, but that's 100% of the fun parts, with way better terms for drinking.

This guy knows what's up.


Also I love games like Mario Golf and everybody's golf but lol at playing real golf except for aforementioned driving ranges or mini golf.

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