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You can bait Bloody Crow to the door of the cathedral and then hit him through it with threaded cane/beast cutter/anything that has enough reach and sweep to clip around walls.
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I liked all the hunter fights, the only one I didn't like was the three at once in Yahargul but there's like a bunch of ways to cheese that one
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kung fu jive posted:You know what isn't a fair fight? The final hunter encounter in the grand cathedral. gently caress this guy. once you accept that it isn't a fair fight you can start fighting dirty i just lure him down the stairs to the cathedral door so he loses most of his hp by staring at me with his transformed chikage i don't bother with the three hunters in the unseen village anymore either, i just lock myself in that cell and hit them through the bars
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You can also cheese the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst by using soothing mist on them and poisoning them. I’ve done him correctly once and then the stars method every other time.
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Jul 2, 2020 19:34
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SkeletonHero posted:I always deal with the Byrgenwerth hunter the same way every time - lure her to the end of the lunarium and blast her off of it with Beast Roar. You can still cheese the guy by the cathedral stairs and poison knives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYABqOYNwqw
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Jul 2, 2020 21:01
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Honour fight every NPC, if only to put their cowardly tactics to shame
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SkeletonHero posted:I always deal with the Byrgenwerth hunter the same way every time - lure her to the end of the lunarium and blast her off of it with Beast Roar. He has a, habit of slowly walking towards you. If you have a weapon with decent reach like the holy blade or whip you can often time a charged r2 to make contact just as he gets into striking distance, briefly interrupting him and giving you time to open ground. Rinse and repeat. He's also pretty vulnerable to arcane projectiles if you keep your distance.
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The Yahargul trio was weird because they have such a large aggro radius, but what ended up happening to me was me quickly getting the gently caress out when I realized what was about to happen, and made a hard right out of the main entrance After going around a lap or two with these guys is tow, this caused two out of the three hunters ended up getting stuck in a wall from the inside, If you hit them in while stuck in the wall, they have a chance to fall off the map and die.
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kung fu jive posted:You know what isn't a fair fight? The final hunter encounter in the grand cathedral. gently caress this guy. In true Bloodborne style this guy is a complete pushover every single time I face him but the hunter at byrgenwerth frags me a few times every run. I love how everyone has different fights they stomp and get owned by.
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multijoe posted:Honour fight every NPC, if only to put their cowardly tactics to shame A
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SkeletonHero posted:I always deal with the Byrgenwerth hunter the same way every time - lure her to the end of the lunarium and blast her off of it with Beast Roar. Actually there is a simple trick, the stairs mess with his AI and he can't go out the doors, which means it's pretty easy to poison him if you have a bunch of poison knives
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Okay gently caress Laurence the first vicar. Microlash is terrible design, but Laurence plus the camera fighting with me is making me seriously angry. I should have put points into a long range melee weapon. This will be my fifth attempt. He was at 1/10th health when he killed me on one of those and im still miffed about it, I got sloppy and died to the executioner guarding the door EDIT: gently caress it. I beat him with the saw spear, no trick transformations. Went for his arm in the first phase, arm and head in the second and third. Waited until he spat out fire, and that was my opportunity to strike a combo Fargin Icehole fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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laurence is a real piece of poo poo but what u get for beating him is the best reward in the game
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Lmao at getting frustrated after only 5 attempts.
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They beat Orphan in one go, and Maria in two. This may be the one time they needed more than 4 tries to beat a boss.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I beat the grand cathedral hunter finally. I actually gave in and was trying to do the poison cheese but the hunter lunged at me with the transformed Chikage and was close to the door. He then just kept trying to walk back to the stairs so I just stood in front of him and wailed on his face until he died. I'll take it.
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Bust Rodd posted:Lmao at getting frustrated after only 5 attempts. Me getting progressively worse in each attempt is what really frustrated me. I went from taking him to Phase 3 one the second attempt, to losing 80% of my health on the next try to a mistimed dodge. I think in retrospect i'm just not very good at dealing with obscenely large bosses in souls games, because i'm having more trouble trying to figure out the camera to figure out what they will do next from up close. Eventually if i memorize the twitch in the leg that i'm wailing on in the animation, i'll figure it out. It's how i lost to Darkbeast Paarl at least three times before i put the game down a year or two ago. Laurence was one the last optional boss before I fought Gehrman & moon presence. Fighting Laurence Phase 1 was basically a refresher on what Cleric Beast's animations were. I needed Gascoinge's help to fight Cleric beast when i first played, so Coming back at level 120 and laying waste to the Cleric beast had a stronger impact than coming back and laying waste to the Asylum Demon at NG+. In the first souls game, I played the heavy armor juggernaut with a greatshield in the soul series, and slowly transitioned to min maxing and having 69.9% weight with the best stability shield you can find. The shield was always there, and switching to shieldless builds always screwed me up in the souls series, i felt like I needed that safety net, even when i started dodging instead of blocking. Knowing that it isn't a good option in Bloodborne, right down to the wooden shield's description pretty much telling you that the poo poo doesn't work around here, and being forced to play a different set of rules makes this game a masterpiece for newcomers and veterans.
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tote up a bags posted:In true Bloodborne style this guy is a complete pushover every single time I face him but the hunter at byrgenwerth frags me a few times every run. This is so true and for some reason it seems (to me at least) that it happens more with Bloodborne than the DS series or Sekiro.
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kung fu jive posted:You know what isn't a fair fight? The final hunter encounter in the grand cathedral. gently caress this guy. If not, yeah gently caress that guy he sucks.
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Honestly it becomes really obvious why they lock you being able to buy Poison Knives behind reaching the Upper Cathedral Ward(and thus relatively late game), cause those things can break certain fights, and it would be so much worse if you were able to reliably obtain them early on in the game
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SubponticatePoster posted:If you have enough arcane for Beast Roar that fight becomes hilariously easy. Lure him onto the stairs and spam it. Knock him down, hit him a couple of times, rinse, repeat. I’m actually curious to hear opinions on this because I’m sitting at base arcane of 9 with my bloodtinge Chikage build and I’m curious if it’s worth it to throw some levels into arcane to be able to use some of those items. This is my second playthrough and on my first one I didn’t use any of them.
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly it becomes really obvious why they lock you being able to buy Poison Knives behind reaching the Upper Cathedral Ward(and thus relatively late game), cause those things can break certain fights, and it would be so much worse if you were able to reliably obtain them early on in the game theyre deemphasized in gameplay as well. almost no visual aura and a very quiet sound effect
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Fargin Icehole posted:Me getting progressively worse in each attempt is what really frustrated me. I went from taking him to Phase 3 one the second attempt, to losing 80% of my health on the next try to a mistimed dodge. I think in retrospect i'm just not very good at dealing with obscenely large bosses in souls games, because i'm having more trouble trying to figure out the camera to figure out what they will do next from up close. Eventually if i memorize the twitch in the leg that i'm wailing on in the animation, i'll figure it out. It's how i lost to Darkbeast Paarl at least three times before i put the game down a year or two ago. Shields are nice, but not if they engender passivity.
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multijoe posted:Honour fight every NPC, if only to put their cowardly tactics to shame VVVVV Pulcinella posted:A Victory is victory. Where's the honour of having unlimited blood bullets and more health than a bossfight but stairs gently caress your poo poo. I'll use the stairs to even out the things.
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Breaking the game is a great feeling though. I cannot tell you the glee I feel when I rush the whirligig saw and then absolutely murk the blood starved beast with it. gently caress you bitch I'm the boss fight now.
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The beauty of the Gehrman kill in NG+ using the burial blade. This poo poo seem familiar to you bro?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Breaking the game is a great feeling though. I cannot tell you the glee I feel when I rush the whirligig saw and then absolutely murk the blood starved beast with it. gently caress you bitch I'm the boss fight now. Wait how do you unlock the DLC before you kill BSB? Unlock the gates with Blood Echoes and kill Amelia first?
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Bust Rodd posted:Wait how do you unlock the DLC before you kill BSB? Unlock the gates with Blood Echoes and kill Amelia first? Could be either NG+ or a Chalice Dungeons fight
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Bust Rodd posted:Wait how do you unlock the DLC before you kill BSB? Unlock the gates with Blood Echoes and kill Amelia first? BSB and Cleric Beast are both optional, just not at the same time without sequence breaKing.
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Pulcinella posted:BSB is optional if you kill cleric beast to get the badge and buy the handkerchief to open the gate. Which is actually pretty clever since it ensures the player will have fought at least one Beast boss before fighting Vicar Amelia and thus have at least some idea about what to do against such a foe
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Yep, CB, Gascoigne and straight to Amelia after farming the echoes needed to open the gates doing whatever. You can then just run through the first dlc area like a crazy person and collect the old hunter set. Whirligig, saif, and a few other things im forgetting and then go back to play the game as normal with dlc weapons and armor.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Yep, CB, Gascoigne and straight to Amelia after farming the echoes needed to open the gates doing whatever. You can then just run through the first dlc area like a crazy person and collect the old hunter set. Whirligig, saif, and a few other things im forgetting and then go back to play the game as normal with dlc weapons and armor. Yeah but “straight to Amelia” is much easier said than done for all but the most bloodthirsty of Hoonters. Do you even have Fire Paper at that point?
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah but “straight to Amelia” is much easier said than done for all but the most bloodthirsty of Hoonters. Do you even have Fire Paper at that point? yeah, you can get them in old yarnham, i usually clear a bunch of it to get the souls needed for the gates to open anyway, i maybe was a bit brief there.
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You can also do Hemwick before Amelia, which is not a big deal and doesn't really reward having a strong and/or interesting weapon until the end where the Executioners are. And with that excursion, you can get your weapon to +6, which is plenty to kill Amelia.
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Doing Hemick first makes more sense to me too because you unlock runes and that’s my favorite system in the game. gently caress I’m gonna make an Arcane Beast Cutter Build now awww fudge.
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I mean yeah there are sensible ways to do it but I like picking a weapon in souls games and figuring out how to get it asap. You have to do something hard, and get rewarded by having faster access to something that early game bosses aren't as well balanced for.
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im imagining Bloodborne on PC and the first mod just has the Hunter's Workshop steps just littered with every weapon and armor well first mod after NUDE MOD
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Also one should do Hemwick before Amelia because that area looks best during the Evening Phase anyways(particularly since it's one of the areas that doesn't switch to the Blood Moon phase)
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drrockso20 posted:Also one should do Hemwick before Amelia because that area looks best during the Evening Phase anyways(particularly since it's one of the areas that doesn't switch to the Blood Moon phase) Oh yeah, on a first playthrough imo you should clear everything before advancing the night each time, so that on another play through you can see them differently.
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Im just following this thread now after having finally beat it and all the bosses but the recent posts make me want to NG chalice dungeon the burial blade which I've never used yet. WORTH IT???
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