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Aug 4, 2022 04:18
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Wamsutta posted:Died three times to Witches of Hemwick and counting, supposed to be by all accounts a joke/easy boss. The AOE keeps murdering me every time. And the run back is hell, there’s so many mobs it’s tough to avoid eating hits and wasting vials on the way there. Are you hesitating? If Y, please try again and select N. Witches are optional so you can just do something else if you like, but you should come back as they have good stuff that you want. You really want to be remaining as aggressive as possible and witches are pretty soft when you hit them. Ignore the monster thing and break all the barrels around, they'll disturb the debris and you can whack them. They also appear in predictable parts of the room so use that to your advantage.
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Aug 4, 2022 04:32
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The cane sucks for early to mid game, around when you can put chunks in it and get to skill 30 or so it turns from sucky no stagger hit and run to becoming a blender. Everyone who says to stick with it is full of it. It's harder to use early because if the no stagger and you can't turtle. Your options are hit and run or use a lot of space with the transformed whip cane.
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Aug 4, 2022 04:40
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If you died to the witches at least once, you can also just lower your insight to 0 and completely nerf the boss fight. Edit: Yes, the insight mechanic works completely backwards from how I think it should but here we are.
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Aug 4, 2022 04:42
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Barudak posted:If you died to the witches at least once, you can also just lower your insight to 0 and completely nerf the boss fight. The insight works as it should. The more you have, the more poo poo you're aware of, and that makes you weaker to frenzy (madness). Low insight makes you a beast, that doesn't happen because of the whole hunter/dream/contract. Stacking insight to purchase things but making things harder is a good risk/reward system imo.
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Aug 4, 2022 05:58
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It just makes enemies significantly more dangerous (but only a weird handful, its not universal enough to feel right) in exchange for nothing useful. From a pure mechanical standpoint theres no reason to carry any insight around, it can only hurt you. I think to me an ideal system would be something like low insight is less damage to certain attacks but with high insight you get tells you wouldn't get otherwise get with the tradeoff if you do get hit you are punished more harshly.
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Aug 4, 2022 06:10
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Wasn't able to get any weapon to +6 because of spreading mats between the cane and spear, but I killed the Witches, got the cane to +5, leveled myself to around 35, took END from 9 to 12, bought a fire paper and trucked Amelia, and then went and did the same to Undead Giant. Fire paper plus whip form with more upgrades worked really well. Managed to complete the Uncanny Burial Blade sidequest, got it to +5 also, used it to donk the absolute poo poo out of Paarl, just repeated heavy head shots followed by viscerals. Cleared out the Gaol. Think it's Forbidden Woods time next. Think I'll focus on upgrading the Blade, but keep bringing up the cane as my second weapon. I've been getting more used to it and now that it's upgraded more and I've got SKL to 20 it's easier to use. This thread is really helpful and encouraging and I appreciate having it as a sounding board.  Had to switch up my fashionsouls for the burial blade. With the cane I was using the hunter's garb plus Gascoigne's hat for classy murder mode. Burial blade calls for the charred hunter set (and hunter hat), which remains my favorite outfit in the game. I'll just live with the hair clipping. I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:unlike souls games you never really reach a point where you can simply face tank everything This seems to be a lot of what I've struggled with, I had been trying to crank VIT to 30 as my first goal to let me kinda face tank and R1 spam my way through. And it works sometimes. But definitely not all the time. Barudak posted:If you died to the witches at least once, you can also just lower your insight to 0 and completely nerf the boss fight. I actually did this the first playthrough and didn't do it this time, so having the Mad Ones to contend with was making it harder than I remembered it being. Oscar Wild posted:The cane sucks for early to mid game, around when you can put chunks in it and get to skill 30 or so it turns from sucky no stagger hit and run to becoming a blender. Everyone who says to stick with it is full of it. It's harder to use early because if the no stagger and you can't turtle. Your options are hit and run or use a lot of space with the transformed whip cane. I agree with this but I do think that sticking with it pays off. Far tougher start than the cleaver though (and I assume the axe). It's got more style than a lot of other weapons though.
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Aug 4, 2022 11:33
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Barudak posted:It just makes enemies significantly more dangerous (but only a weird handful, its not universal enough to feel right) in exchange for nothing useful. From a pure mechanical standpoint theres no reason to carry any insight around, it can only hurt you. Blood rocks are 60 insight. Every playthrough I stack insight (and madman's knowledge) to get an extra stone per cycle as soon as I unlock rocks at the shop. The only thing that is extra difficult is that you can get frenzied twice (proc then another buildup) and sedatives are cheap and enough around to carry.
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Aug 4, 2022 11:38
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If you're doing anything with Beasthood, Insight also cuts your meter down, so that's a bummer. But yeah, I always hoard to buy the Rock even if I never use it because I like to have a backup in case I really like this character and want another +10 weapon for NG+ or sthWamsutta posted:Wasn't able to get any weapon to +6 because of spreading mats between the cane and spear, but I killed the Witches, got the cane to +5, leveled myself to around 35, took END from 9 to 12, bought a fire paper and trucked Amelia, and then went and did the same to Undead Giant. Fire paper plus whip form with more upgrades worked really well. Managed to complete the Uncanny Burial Blade sidequest, got it to +5 also, used it to donk the absolute poo poo out of Paarl, just repeated heavy head shots followed by viscerals. Cleared out the Gaol. Think it's Forbidden Woods time next. Think I'll focus on upgrading the Blade, but keep bringing up the cane as my second weapon. I've been getting more used to it and now that it's upgraded more and I've got SKL to 20 it's easier to use. Oscar Wild posted:The cane sucks for early to mid game, around when you can put chunks in it and get to skill 30 or so it turns from sucky no stagger hit and run to becoming a blender. Everyone who says to stick with it is full of it. It's harder to use early because if the no stagger and you can't turtle. Your options are hit and run or use a lot of space with the transformed whip cane.
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Aug 4, 2022 11:59
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The cane is rough for a first playthrough but is one of my favourites. New players might want to use the cleaver or axe first. Or get the cane and stumble upon the saw spear as backup plan.
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Aug 4, 2022 12:11
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Wamsutta posted:This seems to be a lot of what I've struggled with, I had been trying to crank VIT to 30 as my first goal to let me kinda face tank and R1 spam my way through. And it works sometimes. But definitely not all the time. Bloodborne really wants you to at least be aggressive enough to take advantage of the Rally system, but I definitely wouldn’t say actual face tanking is a good strat. You are VERY fast in Bloodborne. Use that to your advantage. If you do get hit, rally it back, then dance back OUT. Don’t stay in and keep taking hits.
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Aug 4, 2022 12:34
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Guillermus posted:Stacking insight to purchase things but making things harder is a good risk/reward system imo. I hoard it, fashionborne is the endgame.
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Aug 4, 2022 13:32
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Tbh I have more trouble with the axe than with the cane, having extra good viscerals makes things so much easier
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Aug 4, 2022 22:07
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you dont really start to feel the visceral damage difference until youve leveled up a bit and the enemies have larger health pools. At the start, the cane is def the hardest starter weapon to use. The axe is great cause it does pretty good damage and the charged strong attack completely destroys the early-game
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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Took out Shadows my first try again, some bosses are just easier for some people I guess. Paarl and Shadows I’ve taken down in one try both times now. The range on the transformed burial blade is just wild. It’s deceptive asf. Helpful vs the snakehead dudes and giant snake balls. I know the whip would have been too but I’m still obsessed with the burial blade lol.
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Aug 4, 2022 23:53
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Wamsutta posted:Took out Shadows my first try again, some bosses are just easier for some people I guess. Paarl and Shadows I’ve taken down in one try both times now. It's so good, I love the follow up attack after dodging untransformed, it can just clown enemies
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Aug 5, 2022 00:00
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Burial Blade is so drat good. Great attacks with surprising reach and damage and it also has a bonus to the amount of health restored using the rally mechanics From knew how OP it was so they shunted it to NG+ only unless you cheat that poo poo
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Aug 5, 2022 00:00
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Scythe form Burial Blade has the highest rally in the game.
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Aug 5, 2022 03:11
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You guys ever sit down to play this game and get hopelessly wrecked by every single encounter you try? This is not my day. Tried Nightmare Frontier. Not happening. Repeatedly one shot by hurled boulders. Over it. Trying to go kill Iosefka since I don’t care about her third cord and I want her rune this time. I’ve only even gotten to her once (she owned me) and have died a half dozen times to trash mobs trying to get there again. Died three times to the brain sucker near her and lost 6 insight in the process. This has all been wildly discouraging. Today was a long Friday and I need some W’s here, gently caress.
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Aug 6, 2022 01:33
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Rekt lmao
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Aug 6, 2022 01:36
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:the game will gently caress you up if you get over confident. even early game poo poo will ruin you if given an opportunity Bloodborne is, get rekt nerd, the game
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Aug 6, 2022 02:09
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Fuckin sweet I beat Rom and I get to finish the Eileen quest this time and the Hunter you have to fight is a Bloodhound Step/RoB user E: there’s no way I’m gonna be able to do this holy gently caress. He almost one shots me with his gun and does one shot me with his sword. I’m gonna have to farm levels or something. At 55 I can’t do poo poo to this guy, I can’t do Nightmare Frontier, can’t even get inside Cainhurst and imagine I don’t want any part of Yahar’gul either. Wamsutta fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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Aug 6, 2022 03:00
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The secret to getting into Cainhurst Castle is to approach it like Elden Ring and just loving run like a bitch straight to the door, there’s like two enemies I’d say are just plain badly handled wrt attack windups/recovery but Bloodsuckers are definitely one of them. Yarha’gul is more of a puzzle stage; the main gimmick is booking it because there’s ladies summoning the enemies you fight in part 1 so yeah.
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Aug 6, 2022 03:15
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Wamsutta posted:Fuckin sweet I beat Rom and I get to finish the Eileen quest this time and the Hunter you have to fight is a Bloodhound Step/RoB user That dude is one of the hardest enemies in the game
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Aug 6, 2022 03:19
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I found I was able to bait him into my big R2 swings with a str weapon, a lot of people cheese him at the stairs. For sure he can wreck your rear end though
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Aug 6, 2022 03:44
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that guy is the hardest fight in vanilla Bloodborne so a lot of ppl cheese him with poison and poo poo. You do get a pretty dope reward for killing him tho just get like 20 parries in a row, nbd also, if youre gonna farm, id just use the cumm dungeon instead. It will save you a ton of time
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Aug 6, 2022 04:50
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I just let him kill himself
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Aug 6, 2022 05:03
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:that guy is the hardest fight in vanilla Bloodborne so a lot of ppl cheese him with poison and poo poo. You do get a pretty dope reward for killing him tho You don't even need to poison him. His leashing breaks on the staircase. You can lure him down the stairs, he'll get anxious and start backing up, and he won't even fight back if you smack him while he's doing that. Otherwise, yeah he's meant to be something you do at like level 80 with a fast weapon or some arcane attacks or something.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:28
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I coulda sworn he did some hp drain move that you cam just wait out
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Aug 6, 2022 06:39
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verbal enema posted:I coulda sworn he did some hp drain move that you cam just wait out He'll stab himself with his Chikage and lose HP from it, yeah. I don't know how easy it is to get him to kill himself like that because whenever I tried he'd swap out eventually, but it certainly can be combined with other cheese stuff to make him die faster at least.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:43
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Ok yeah I deffo would just wait for him to do that then kinda gently caress off and watch the hp bar go bye bye
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Aug 6, 2022 06:46
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A few poison knives plus the katana debuff and patience on the stairs is enough to kill the hunter.
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Aug 6, 2022 10:07
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I am glad it's not just me that found it impossible then lol. I guess if I want to beat them at 56 it's cheese time. I'll probably just do it later. I don't have the mats to upgrade Blades of Mercy so they're not a This Playthrough thing, so no rush. I'll probably try get through Cainhurst (I managed to run through it and open the shortcut without dying last night) and then maybe do another Chalice Dungeon or two. The weeping ghosts in Cainhurst take five hits from my +7 Burial Blade, which is kind of surprising. I feel like they died in 2-3 strikes from the saw cleaver last time. Probably more a testament to how OP the cleaver is than anything else.
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Aug 6, 2022 13:43
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I’ve been replaying Bloodborne and I love it even more the second time, the level design and layout is masterful. The only thing I don’t like is that most mid and late game bosses are boring to fight and kind of easy too. great ones especially are prey to be slaughtered indeed
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Aug 6, 2022 14:53
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I just crushed Logarius first try and my hands are shaking lmao. Bro took me three days and like 50+ attempts my first playthrough and I was probably closer to level 70 then. Pulled up on Lower Pthumeru Undead Giant and I died a probably single digit number of times but I felt good about the win because I actually figured the fight out rather than scraping by on the good grace of R1 spam and blood vials. Hell yeah. Wamsutta fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Aug 6, 2022 |
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Aug 6, 2022 15:40
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Burial Blade is made for the Amygdala fight, I almost did a no hit win on her just now. That overhand transformed L2 to the head, and the quick roll+R1 on the arms made it super easy.
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Aug 7, 2022 16:33
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The one thing a skill run spoils you on is how how much satisfying damage you do on any visceral attacks, especially if you slot in a rune or two that boosts the damage even further. Wiping a quarter or more of a boss's HP bar off them in one bloody explosion is so nice.
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Aug 7, 2022 17:08
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Nuns with Guns posted:The one thing a skill run spoils you on is how how much satisfying damage you do on any visceral attacks, especially if you slot in a rune or two that boosts the damage even further. Wiping a quarter or more of a boss's HP bar off them in one bloody explosion is so nice. Very relevant since I just killed the Bloody Crow without cheesing. Threw on the Claw rune, and learned from a Reddit post that when the crow is sprinting at you they’re about to thrust with the Chikage which is super parry bait. Once I began trying that strategy he only took two tries. Yahar’gul up next.
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Aug 7, 2022 17:16
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I kind of like fighting the Bloody Crow and have never cheesed him; he's a good yardstick to check if I "get" whatever build I'm currently using. That being said, I missed Eileen's quest the first time around and by my second playthrough already had the Platinum so it seemed fair. 
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Chalice Rom is my least favorite fight in the game two playthroughs in. Nothing about it is fun and it’s just frustrating as hell. Especially so without my saw cleaver and bolt paper. Not being able to buff the burial blade never even occurred to me until the first time I wanted to do it. Last time I managed to just DPS Rom into paste with bolt paper and a beast pellet. Burial blade doesn’t seem to be able to win any DPS contests so I’m going to have to slow and steady pick off spiders if I’m going to win this time.
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Aug 7, 2022 20:33
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