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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

i don't like nazis



A good rule is to buy levels then buy vials each time you go back to the dream. You'll have a bank of vials by mid game that will seemingly never end.

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Mason Dixon
Jul 28, 2001

Crimson Butterfly



Oxyclean posted:

I just wanted something to put in the slot. Wasn't sure if there was anything easily accessible or not.

I am really not liking the blood vial system right now. I'm using more then I find and I don't know any spots with enemies that drop many.

The werewolves on the bridge near the start usually drop a handful, and you'll get some here and there from the big townsfolk, but yeah, there's not a really good spot to focus on farming them. Back when I still had this problem, I'd just make several loops from the Central Yharnam lamp down to the bridge werewolves and back again, and use the spare echos to either level up or buy more vials. I agree the vial system can be annoying, though.

For now, I'd suggest trying to use less blood vials unless you think a run is going pretty well, and if possible make up for some of it w/ emphasis on rallying, if you're not already. It makes you focus harder on improving and being observant, and you're less likely to run out when you really need them.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007



The two giants by central yharnam + the two werewolves & giant up the stairs by Cathedral beast seem to work well. Farming echos for vials feels bad because I just end up thinking "I could be using this for a level." There's spots where spending them makes sense though since Ill probably lose them. They're 360 for me right now.

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011


Okay what is wrong with you people? Every time I go to the Workshop there are at minimum half-a-dozen new tombstones on the spawn point where you all went afk while your chikage was out. The beast have nothing to fear since it seems we all just kill ourselves.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

i don't like nazis



Oxyclean posted:

The two giants by central yharnam + the two werewolves & giant up the stairs by Cathedral beast seem to work well. Farming echos for vials feels bad because I just end up thinking "I could be using this for a level." There's spots where spending them makes sense though since Ill probably lose them. They're 360 for me right now.

That's why I buy my levels and use the spare change for a couple of vials. Add in what you get on the road and you'll be swimming in them and can just start piling on levels or buy a cool item.

So, having vials early means you die less, you don't get stuck farming and accidentally die (losing echoes) you beat a boss and get mondo echoes, you buy vials after new levels with all your secure echo income, rinse repeat until you're a rich hoonter.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

The planet's dyin', CJ!


galagazombie posted:

Okay what is wrong with you people? Every time I go to the Workshop there are at minimum half-a-dozen new tombstones on the spawn point where you all went afk while your chikage was out. The beast have nothing to fear since it seems we all just kill ourselves.

You'd think they'd make it untransform when you warp into an area specifically to prevent this exact thing from happening, but nope, From is perfectly willing to let you dig your own grave and lie down in it too

karma_coma
Apr 18, 2003

Bud Light Mola Ram

I beat father gas in one try when I got home..... BSB next when I find him. Still dodge left all the time (I hope) or was it right?? Ill find out.

I remember you get some giant rear end sword for beating him.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007



JBP posted:

That's why I buy my levels and use the spare change for a couple of vials. Add in what you get on the road and you'll be swimming in them and can just start piling on levels or buy a cool item.

So, having vials early means you die less, you don't get stuck farming and accidentally die (losing echoes) you beat a boss and get mondo echoes, you buy vials after new levels with all your secure echo income, rinse repeat until you're a rich hoonter.

It's a good plan but i keep finding myself at thresholds where I can just pop one or two coldbloods for another level. That said earlier I was hitting a bit of a wall since I got dragged off to the unseen town or whatever and started facing some tough enemies. When I found a way out I made a detour to Hemwick and managed to get my Kirkhammer to +6 I've had some nice momentum since and just took down Shadow of Yharnam.

karma_coma posted:

I remember you get some giant rear end sword for beating him.

I don't think you get anything expressly for beating BSB (besides the chalice) but it opens a door to an area where you can find an item that will unlock the sword in the shop.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

i don't like nazis



Oxyclean posted:

It's a good plan but i keep finding myself at thresholds where I can just pop one or two coldbloods for another level. That said earlier I was hitting a bit of a wall since I got dragged off to the unseen town or whatever and started facing some tough enemies. When I found a way out I made a detour to Hemwick and managed to get my Kirkhammer to +6 I've had some nice momentum since and just took down Shadow of Yharnam.

Yeah it's all about momentum. Running dry on vials is a killer and you can end up spending a good chunk of time farming. If I had my time again, instead of farming up vials I'd just go and buy them with the echoes I was making. Also once you've got the library area (can't remember the real name, it's full of watery school blobs) you can just mow down a room of them a couple of times and spend the big echoes on vials, which is a good thing since you're gonna need them soon after.

Kooriken
Dec 27, 2012

This thread is beneath my talent, but I....shall elevate it.


Oxyclean posted:

The two giants by central yharnam + the two werewolves & giant up the stairs by Cathedral beast seem to work well. Farming echos for vials feels bad because I just end up thinking "I could be using this for a level." There's spots where spending them makes sense though since Ill probably lose them. They're 360 for me right now.

I usually run back to Central Yharnam and use the Cleric Beast lamp, hit the giant outside, the two wolves, go down through the house (the sword guys can also drop some vials sometimes) and out to the two giants guarding the shortcut to Gascoigne. Use the shortcut, go over the bridge (optionally going down the ladder to hit up the pig since he always gives some vials), hitting the giant at the other end and the two beastmen right before Gascoigne. Usually fills me all the way up on vials or darn close.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Pull up dem pants, Cuphead

The DJ Grimes just live-streamed a playthrough If Bloodborne while answering questions about it on Twitch and announced that she’s been making music based on her experiences playing Dark Souls.

She a pretty popular festival DJ and makes a shitton of music so I think that’s cool.

Dr. Clockwork
Sep 9, 2011

I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Abhorrent Beast is a dick.

karma_coma
Apr 18, 2003

Bud Light Mola Ram

Oxyclean posted:

I don't think you get anything expressly for beating BSB (besides the chalice) but it opens a door to an area where you can find an item that will unlock the sword in the shop.

Ahh drat. I'm still going to kill him. I thought you got something good for killing him. I'm not real sure what a chalice does.

I cleared out old yharnam this morning except stupid machine gun guy. Forgot about him.

I'm at 20vit/20str/14sk right now. I remember the big rear end sword is str/sk?? I think my stamina is 13 or 14. Bl27.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007



karma_coma posted:

Ahh drat. I'm still going to kill him. I thought you got something good for killing him. I'm not real sure what a chalice does.

I cleared out old yharnam this morning except stupid machine gun guy. Forgot about him.

I'm at 20vit/20str/14sk right now. I remember the big rear end sword is str/sk?? I think my stamina is 13 or 14. Bl27.

Yeah, I think that's Ludwigs' Holy Blade, you do need to beat BSB to get to it, you just don't get it for beating him. After you beat BSB, go back to the Cathedral Ward lantern - a door will have opened on the right side of the room leading to an elevator.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?


karma_coma posted:

Ahh drat. I'm still going to kill him. I thought you got something good for killing him. I'm not real sure what a chalice does.

I cleared out old yharnam this morning except stupid machine gun guy. Forgot about him.

I'm at 20vit/20str/14sk right now. I remember the big rear end sword is str/sk?? I think my stamina is 13 or 14. Bl27.

Chalices are sort of a side-game to the main game itself. Beating BSB nets you the first Pthumeru Chalice. Basically you use the gravestone altars running along the outer path in Hunter's Dream to perform a Chalice ritual which opens up a dungeon in a particular Chalice area (of which Pthumeru is one). There are 3 other Chalice areas you can find Chalices for, and each one has it's own sort of flavor and set of enemies which can appear inside them. There are also variations on the Chalices, most notably the Root Chalice, which will give you a randomized dungeon (layout, enemy placement, items/treasure) each time.

On a first playthrough, honestly I wouldn't really bother unless you are going for the Platinum trophy, in which case there's a fair number of Chalices you will have to go through to reach a boss who only appears in a particular, really late game Chalice.

Opinions on the Chalices are somewhat divided as well, some people can't stand them other people love them.

But again - a first run? Don't worry about it.

karma_coma
Apr 18, 2003

Bud Light Mola Ram

Oxyclean posted:

Yeah, I think that's Ludwigs' Holy Blade, you do need to beat BSB to get to it, you just don't get it for beating him. After you beat BSB, go back to the Cathedral Ward lantern - a door will have opened on the right side of the room leading to an elevator.

Ahhh I seem to remember that .. Kind of.

How do the gems work? I have a few now. If I put one in my kirkhammer is it stuck in there forever?

Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

Nope, you can switch out gems in the Dream at any time!

m.hache
Dec 1, 2004


Fun Shoe

Where the hell is the haze extractor. I'm almost positive I picked it up but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to use it.


EDIT: Ignore, turns out I've just been seeing tips on it and actually haven't found it yet.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006



If you care about fashion, beating the first chalice (three floors) gives you the second chalice (central Pthumeru), which, if you beat the boss of its second floor, unlocks a cool ashen witch esque set of armor

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Pull up dem pants, Cuphead

m.hache posted:

Where the hell is the haze extractor. I'm almost positive I picked it up but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to use it.


EDIT: Ignore, turns out I've just been seeing tips on it and actually haven't found it yet.

Lower Pthumerian Chalice, 2nd Floor pre-boss room, in a large black chest in a sewer tile

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Archenteron posted:

If you care about fashion, beating the first chalice (three floors) gives you the second chalice (central Pthumeru), which, if you beat the boss of its second floor, unlocks a cool ashen witch esque set of armor

IMO this thing is as crucial for an ARC build as a fire weapon and Augur of Ebrietas

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Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

WHY AM I YELLING? I AM VERY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW! I SEEM TO HAVE MISPLACED MY KEYS.


big cummers ONLY posted:

IMO this thing is as crucial for an ARC build as a fire weapon and Augur of Ebrietas

This. Augur has a huge hitbox and will knock back most enemies if it doesn't parry them.

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