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Jenny Agutter posted:did they get rid of paint3d? moved to the Microsoft Store as an optional app so, dead
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Oct 7, 2021 15:49
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gently caress the office open xml format sucks so much. (Shaggar may disagree but he's wrong.)
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Oct 7, 2021 15:55
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Pile Of Garbage posted:TIL that if you hit the F1 key in mspaint on win10 (21H1) it will launch chedge and search for "help with paint in windows 10" on bing (not direct, uses a fwlink: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=2004229). i know they're trying to get rid of mspaint and all but lmao this is beyond lazy and dumb. nah thats about inflating bing search counts. its the same reason theres bing search in the start menu
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Oct 7, 2021 16:13
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mystes posted:gently caress the office open xml format sucks so much. (Shaggar may disagree but he's wrong.) it works fine.
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Oct 7, 2021 16:13
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Shaggar posted:nah thats about inflating bing search counts. its the same reason theres bing search in the start menu i'm guessing they count every search that returns results from the web as a bing search whether or not the web results get a click
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Oct 7, 2021 16:20
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mystes posted:gently caress the office open xml format sucks so much. (Shaggar may disagree but he's wrong.) Shaggar posted:it works fine. i honestly have no idea what the use case for it even is, i thought it was just added as an antitrust compliance measure
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Oct 7, 2021 16:21
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it would probably be strictly better for everyone (including microsoft) if microsoft gave up on bing as that would make the already defacto google monopoly in the space obvious
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Oct 7, 2021 16:23
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infernal machines posted:i honestly have no idea what the use case for it even is, i thought it was just added as an antitrust compliance measure yeah i guess, but you can use it for generating documents without using word automation
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Oct 7, 2021 16:35
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https://github.com/dfinke/ImportExcel is really good for creating excel spreadsheets but you should never have to create an excel spreadsheet whatever it is you're trying to do there's some free thing that does it better than office
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Oct 7, 2021 16:42
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infernal machines posted:i'm guessing they count every search that returns results from the web as a bing search whether or not the web results get a click as i posted it doesn't send you direct to the bing results but instead goes via a microsoft fwlink https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=2004229. actually now that i write this im not sure what that really means
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Oct 7, 2021 16:43
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r u ready to WALK posted:https://github.com/dfinke/ImportExcel is really good for creating excel spreadsheets its incredibly useful for reporting.
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Oct 7, 2021 16:47
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very useful for databases
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Oct 7, 2021 16:49
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PowerBI is enormously better than excel for reporting granted it's also a microsoft product but the desktop app is free and all you really need when your report doesn't have to be a webpage with live data
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Oct 7, 2021 16:54
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infernal machines posted:i honestly have no idea what the use case for it even is, i thought it was just added as an antitrust compliance measure There's an official .net library for it from microsoft but it's essentially just a convenience wrapper around the xml with types for the different elements, so you still have to understand all the possibilities for the underlying xml you care about which is non-trivial. Even if you just want to extract the text, for excel files you have to deal with the case where the current value of a formula isn't stored which means implementing the entire formula language, and for word files you have to deal with insanely complicated stuff relating to fields and numbering because the actual text for the numbers in numbered lists isn't stored at all (also to get numbering correct you have to account for track changes). One really trivial example of extracting the values incorrectly from excel is that a lot of libraries (IIRC including the most popular python and .net excel file libraries) will include extraneous text from any files with japanese text created with the japanese version of excel, because for some reason the japanese version of excel saves a phonetic version of all text (or at least all text containing chinese characters) which can then theoretically be used in formulas, even though probably nobody has actually intentionally used this feature ever, and this will annoyingly get appended to the innertext or whatever these libraries are using if they try to get the values the wrong way. r u ready to WALK posted:https://github.com/dfinke/ImportExcel is really good for creating excel spreadsheets Edit: like the basic problem is that whereas odf was actually created with the intent of being a standard format that other programs aside from openoffice could use, ooxml was created just to be an xml serialization of the existing format that office was using (indeed as an antitrust compliance measure or whatever, at least in part) without any consideration to whether it would be practical to make other implementations of it. mystes fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Oct 7, 2021 |
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Oct 7, 2021 17:03
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for some reason i thought you meant the "strict xml document"/"word xml document" format
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Oct 7, 2021 17:33
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it would probably be strictly better for everyone (including microsoft) if microsoft gave up on bing as that would make the already defacto google monopoly in the space obvious bing was the default in chredge and I haven't changed it. the only thing it really sucks at is reverse image search, otherwise it's fine
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Oct 7, 2021 17:34
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it also sucks at not returning scam sites as the first page of results for common searches
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Oct 7, 2021 17:35
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akadajet posted:bing was the default in chredge and I haven't changed it. the only thing it really sucks at is reverse image search, otherwise it's fine
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it's not even good at returning results for things ostensibly on microsoft sites like technet and github
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akadajet posted:bing was the default in chredge and I haven't changed it. the only thing it really sucks at is reverse image search, otherwise it's fine you're surely insane. and i say that as a constant contrarian. ...will genuinely try for a week.
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r u ready to WALK posted:PowerBI is enormously better than excel for reporting and how do you think powerbi generates excel reports?
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Oct 7, 2021 18:28
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the answer is probably com automation
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Drastic Actions posted:moved to the Microsoft Store as an optional app only ever used it for magic select but it was really good for that one use case
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https://twitter.com/dril/status/1450460563167973379
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i was getting annoyed at how long it takes to open notification center on windows 10 (slowly slide out from side, pause, slowly fade in notifications, like why aren't the actual notifications just there?) so i turned off animations (yoou can't selectively turn off animations, its all or nothing) and.. it still takes like half a second for the notifications to appear after the tray does.
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Jenny Agutter posted:i was getting annoyed at how long it takes to open notification center on windows 10 (slowly slide out from side, pause, slowly fade in notifications, like why aren't the actual notifications just there?) so i turned off animations (yoou can't selectively turn off animations, its all or nothing) and.. it still takes like half a second for the notifications to appear after the tray does. now it plays the animation but doesn't show it to you. shouldve turned on faster menus too
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cinci zoo sniper posted:now it plays the animation but doesn't show it to you. shouldve turned on faster menus too does that actually effect notification center?
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Jenny Agutter posted:does that actually effect notification center? im just shitposting about microsoft ui “design”, sorry
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cinci zoo sniper posted:im just shitposting about microsoft ui “design”, sorry t 
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Oct 19, 2021 20:48
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Jenny Agutter posted:i was getting annoyed at how long it takes to open notification center on windows 10 (slowly slide out from side, pause, slowly fade in notifications, like why aren't the actual notifications just there?) so i turned off animations (yoou can't selectively turn off animations, its all or nothing) and.. it still takes like half a second for the notifications to appear after the tray does. disable animations and notifications, ez-pz
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bad news if you wanna do NIC teaming or VLANs with PROset/ANS on win11: intel have given up completely, those recalcitrant cowards! https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000087483/ethernet-products.html
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Oct 20, 2021 12:44
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fair enough, you want a real server os for that stuff
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Oct 20, 2021 13:38
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I wonder if I should give in and try windows 11 in a vm just so I know what the ui changes are like even though I have zero desire to upgrade.
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mystes posted:I wonder if I should give in and try windows 11 in a vm just so I know what the ui changes are like even though I have zero desire to upgrade. i did this exact thing and it's poo poo, op. i will wait at least a year to "upgrade" to windows 11 while microsoft beta tests it
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Oct 20, 2021 14:02
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is microsoft still developing hyper-v maybe if driver support and stability suffers enough satya will let those guys go work on kvm instead
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hyper-v is the one part of windows they're developing most of all, every piece of drm crap they're pushing (and also wsl) is built on top of it
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waiting for the inevitable windows 12 once Apple changes macOS to 12 lmao
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my stepdads beer posted:fair enough, you want a real server os for that stuff intel don't have separate PROset/ANS software for windows server. their latest version is for win10 and server 2019. not sure what they're gonna do for server 2022. Chris Knight posted:waiting for the inevitable windows 12 once Apple changes macOS to 12 lmao so began the version wars Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Pile Of Garbage posted:intel don't have separate PROset/ANS software for windows server. their latest version is for win10 and server 2019. not sure what they're gonna do for server 2022. they should just increment the number with every fixpack like chrome and firefox or whatever the hell nvidia is doing with their graphics drivers that are nearing version 500
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