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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lipstick Apathy



Patrick Rothfuss is the celebrated author of the best-selling fantasy series The Kingkiller Chronicle. The success of his series has made him something of an icon. He’s had side-projects like writing for the game Torment: Tides of Numenera, and probably even greater things after he’s finished with Kingkiller.

Here’s a link to his official website.
And here's the previous thread about him and his works.


The Kingkiller Chronicle



quote:

I have stolen princesses back from sleeping barrow kings. I burned down the town of Trebon. I have spent the night with Felurian and left with both my sanity and my life. I was expelled from the University at a younger age than most people are allowed in. I tread paths by moonlight that others fear to speak of during day. I have talked to Gods, loved women, and written songs that make the minstrels weep.

You may have heard of me.

Name of the Wind (2007)
Wise Man’s Fear (2011)
Doors of Stone (Still being written!)
Slow Regard of Silent Things (2014) - A novella



The series recounts the life and adventures of Kvothe, legendary sorcerer, musician, assassin, lover, and adventurer, who is currently living in obscurity as a humble village innkeeper. The story is all about his quest to solve the mystery that as a child cost him his family. The series is currently unfinished, but includes two great books, a novella, and a few short stories.

There’s now an anniversary edition of The Name of the Wind, and it looks sweet! It also has some awesome-sounding ancillary material in it, like details of the world’s calendar and currency systems.



There’s a television adaptation of the series at works, to be produced by Lin Manuel Miranda, and it will no doubt be quite a show whenever it comes out. It’ll be as cool and satisfying as Game of Thrones


Why should I read this guy’s books?

Rothfuss has unique opinions on art, stories, women, life, and magic. His prose is one of a kind. He’s a master of eroticism. Kvothe is a very multifaceted character – at times you have no idea what he’s supposed to be. The final novel of the trilogy will be a real spectacle.


I’ve heard bad things about this author and these books.

Some might call his writing flawed, but others will vouch for him. Just read these recommendations:

quote:

[THE WISE MAN’S FEAR] was worth the wait. I gulped it down in a day, staying up almost to dawn reading, and I am already itching for the next one. He's bloody good, this Rothfuss guy.

- George R. R. Martin, author of Tuf Voyaging

quote:

No one writes about economic reality within this genre like Pat Rothfuss. The real-world weight of the sometimes impossible distance between the things you want and need and what you have in your pocket.

No one writes about music like Pat Rothfuss. The way it sneaks into your soul, the way it feeds you like nothing else.

No one writes about stories like Pat Rothfuss. How the right story at the right time can change the world, how the teller can shape a life.

No one writes like Pat Rothfuss. Full stop. Read this book.

- Lin-Manuel Miranda, creator of Hamilton

But if you’ve never read Rothfuss, I doubt you can understand what his writing is like. Go ahead and get to it!


Is the third book ever coming out?

While Rothfuss promised that the whole trilogy was finished before publication, but that proved to be an optimistic estimate. He’s still working on it. There’s no date set, but we’ll have our hands on it soon enough!


What are the seven words that will make a woman love you?

“Have you read Patrick Rothfuss, my lady?”

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 7, 2017

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A human heart
Oct 10, 2012




is that really what he looks like

Poldarn
Feb 18, 2011



BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Somewhat positive stuff about Rothfuss

I don't get it, what's your angle?

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008










I haven't read these books and don't intend to, and I making a mistake y/n

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lipstick Apathy

You're missing out!

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.



Grimey Drawer

A human heart posted:

is that really what he looks like
That's actually one of the more flattering pictures.

OP posted:

Why should I read this guy’s books?

Rothfuss has unique opinions on art, stories, women, life, and magic. His prose is one of a kind. He’s a master of eroticism. Kvothe is a very multifaceted character – at times you have no idea what he’s supposed to be. The final novel of the trilogy will be a real spectacle.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

That OP is going to trick people in to reading this series.

A human heart posted:

is that really what he looks like

He normally looks like even more of a psychotic cannibal hobo.

Reene
Aug 26, 2005



Now that we have a new thread is jivjov ever gonna answer my fuckin question about Rothfuss' treatment of female characters

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Bravest of Lamp's avatar is the exact face he was making while creating this thread.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMPIN' ON INTO THE POWER LINES

Exciting Lemon

I continue to enjoy the series while acknowledging that Rothfuss is a idiotic person with misogynistic tendencies that seep into every pore of his books.

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

MAMAMOO STAN



Dinosaur Gum

Is the Slow Regard of Silent Things...worth reading if you've read the other two books and are waiting for the third book?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.



Grimey Drawer

If you're still waiting for the third book after those two, sure, go for it, you're probably dead on the inside already.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Fallen Rib

TV Zombie posted:

Is the Slow Regard of Silent Things...worth reading if you've read the other two books and are waiting for the third book?

No.
God No.

I read it back when I still had a decent-ish opinion of Rothfuss' work and I thought it was god awful. There's no plot and trying to make sense of what little actually is happening is painful.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010



Fun Shoe

Books good, Pat bad, Dad gay

PJOmega
May 5, 2009


Bravo BotL, now that is a lovely deadpan backhanded OP.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Now cracks a noble heart.


I was catching up with a friend of mine this past week and she mentioned that she was trying to read Name of the Wind a second time because she "didn't feel like she quite got it" the first time. I told her I didn't like it, and it was like I was a spy giving another spy the password. She went right into a tirade about how much she hated Kvothe and how dumb everything was and how she couldn't understand why everyone had recommended it so heavily to her. It was really funny but also a little hosed up that she felt pressured enough by fan friends to reread a book she wanted nothing to do with.

Then I told her about all the poo poo that happens in Wise Man's Fear and she thought I was making it up

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012

People were stupid, sometimes. They thought the Library was a dangerous place because of all the magical books, which was true enough, but what made it really one of the most dangerous places there could ever be was the simple fact that it was a library.


TheIncredulousHulk posted:

I was catching up with a friend of mine this past week and she mentioned that she was trying to read Name of the Wind a second time because she "didn't feel like she quite got it" the first time. I told her I didn't like it, and it was like I was a spy giving another spy the password. She went right into a tirade about how much she hated Kvothe and how dumb everything was and how she couldn't understand why everyone had recommended it so heavily to her. It was really funny but also a little hosed up that she felt pressured enough by fan friends to reread a book she wanted nothing to do with.

Then I told her about all the poo poo that happens in Wise Man's Fear and she thought I was making it up

I wish my ex had been this supportive of me not liking it. Alas.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless


HIJK posted:

I wish my ex had been this supportive of me not liking it. Alas.
your ex dumping you over rothfuss is still the funniest thing i've ever read in the book barn

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012

People were stupid, sometimes. They thought the Library was a dangerous place because of all the magical books, which was true enough, but what made it really one of the most dangerous places there could ever be was the simple fact that it was a library.


the old ceremony posted:

your ex dumping you over rothfuss is still the funniest thing i've ever read in the book barn

He was really eager for me to move on to Wise Man's Fear and knowing what I do now I'm scared as to why

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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HIJK posted:

He was really eager for me to move on to Wise Man's Fear and knowing what I do now I'm scared as to why

Maybe he was just really really into Tak. Speaking of, the theme of one of my buddy's Halloween parties this year is The King Killer Chronicles. It's all the way out in the burbs, but if I go I promise I will take pictures and post them. Depends on if this girl I'm seeing wants me to go to her thing or not (probably).

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lipstick Apathy

I would go as the Felurian.

ZeroCount
Aug 12, 2013




Solice Kirsk posted:

Maybe he was just really really into Tak. Speaking of, the theme of one of my buddy's Halloween parties this year is The King Killer Chronicles. It's all the way out in the burbs, but if I go I promise I will take pictures and post them. Depends on if this girl I'm seeing wants me to go to her thing or not (probably).

here's your costume, friend

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lipstick Apathy

Or possibly as Josn.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


Gravy Boat 2k

Go as a lute and respond to all conversation with "Sad."

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

Wear your normal clothes and say you're one of Kvothe's extremely memorable friends from University?

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007





Rothfuss wearing that Joss Whedon shirt sureeee takes on a different meaning after the whole revelations that Whedon was never a true believer in feminism and just did it to bone young actresses.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012



Kchama posted:

Rothfuss wearing that Joss Whedon shirt sureeee takes on a different meaning after the whole revelations that Whedon was never a true believer in feminism and just did it to bone young actresses.

Who could have seen that coming

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012

People were stupid, sometimes. They thought the Library was a dangerous place because of all the magical books, which was true enough, but what made it really one of the most dangerous places there could ever be was the simple fact that it was a library.


a male feminist being a creep!!?!??? i never

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all


Reene posted:

Now that we have a new thread is jivjov ever gonna answer my fuckin question about Rothfuss' treatment of female characters

It's pretty funny that the only guy who legit likes these books will post the least about them.

Paladin
Nov 26, 2004
You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.




Where in the previous thread is the story about HIJK's breakup over these books? HIJK would you mind reposting this story for the new thread?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?




Hair Elf

I saw a new thread and thought "there is no way his book is out"

And lo and behold, it wasn't

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012

People were stupid, sometimes. They thought the Library was a dangerous place because of all the magical books, which was true enough, but what made it really one of the most dangerous places there could ever be was the simple fact that it was a library.


There was a post here, it’s gone now because I confused “edit” with “quote!”

HIJK fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 12, 2019

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lipstick Apathy

Maybe you should have had faith in the healing power of literature lol

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012

People were stupid, sometimes. They thought the Library was a dangerous place because of all the magical books, which was true enough, but what made it really one of the most dangerous places there could ever be was the simple fact that it was a library.


BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Maybe you should have had faith in the healing power of literature lol

no

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless


i went on a date once with an engineer from google. after a perfunctory coffee the guy took me back to his dorm room. we talked about webcomics for a while, he told me to read homestuck, i told him i would. then he pulled a book down from the shelf and handed it to me. it was a cheaply printed a4-size book with two poorly-drawn animes kissing on the cover. "i gave this to my ex for her eighteenth," he said. i opened it. it was 200 pages of self-published harry potter tentacle porn. "it's a satire," he said. not knowing how to respond, i leafed through it and made soft chuckling noises. he took the book back from me, sat down on his bed and for the next 20 minutes he read aloud to me long passages about glistening curves and coils sliding into warm and lubricated secret crevices, looking up every few seconds to see if i was delighted. obviously i looked delighted because he kept going. not long after that i told him i had an assignment due tomorrow and left, he tried to kiss me as i went but i managed to turn it into a deft half-hug and he didn't get a second date but he did return my copy of one hundred years of solitude (he said he always brings a book to trade with "new friends", his was surprisingly a george saunders collection that i should have read but couldn't bring myself to open and later mailed back to him) with mysterious extensive water damage

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


Gravy Boat 2k

but did you read homestuck

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Lipstick Apathy

I think Kvothe would call Homestuck 'a beautiful thing'.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless


Sham bam bamina! posted:

but did you read homestuck
never, to this day

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless


that was actually my second copy of one hundred years of solitude to suffer extensive water damage, the first was destroyed when the hot water system exploded and flooded my one-room apartment

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
I POSTED ON SOMETHINGAWFUL AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID REDTEXT.


Atlas Hugged posted:

It's pretty funny that the only guy who legit likes these books will post the least about them.

Re-reads the books 10+ times, cannot engage with anyone asking genuine questions about the flaws of the book, proudly proclaims that they will re-read the books again rather then read something new to prove a point.

Pretty sure that's Rothfuss' core audience. I enjoyed the books when reading them, thought there might be something good about them (but wow did Wise Man's Fear bring up some hosed up things I could not defend), but after reading what other people brought up and discussed came to realize yeah I enjoyed the books as a binge read but only because the books are the lowest common denominator of genre fiction and bring nothing new or unique to the concept other then a fault-less hero and terrible characterization of women from an ardent, self proclaimed feminist.

It's one thing to read a book absent of the opinions and views of its author. Sure tons of famous fantasy/SF authors turned out to be horrible human beings, but it's not like Marion Zimmer Bradley wrote into her books how it was okay to sanction and participate in the abuse of children or Orson Scott Card wrote a bunch of stuff about brutalizing and killing gay people, so you could still enjoy the core content of what they wrote without being fed their own personal hosed up life ideas.

Rothfuss however has gone all in on his feminism ideology so once you know that and read his books its more like holy gently caress you are writing and constructing these characters to completely agree with your half formed ideas about women but in reality its toxic as gently caress and should not be endorsed or celebrated. Having a borderline escort as the main love interest is fine except Kvothe is always a hair away from calling her a whore for not truly appreciating his skills and the time he puts in to her.

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