|
Malazan is the most disjointed mess of a series I've ever seen.
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2022 14:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 08:31 |
|
|
Sham bam bamina! posted:The unbridled nerd rage and fanboyism this thread keeps veering into are even dweebier than Pat himself. let's be real, this is less "The Pat Rothfuss thread" and more "The Let's Hate Popular Fantasy thread" which, I mean, fair, in absentia of a unifying topic (PatRo doing literally anything) goons naturally revert to consuming themselves
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2022 15:54
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/PatrickRothfuss/status/1502391921477656586
|
|
#
?
Mar 17, 2022 18:52
|
|
|
I absolutely cannot figure out what the hell this is about or who the people involved are.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 06:31
|
|
|
I think my favorite part of Pat taking so long to write the 3rd book is that he's WELL past what I would think is the smartest move if you're not confident in your ability to satisfyingly finish the trilogy: just put something, anything out and if it's poorly received say "I was rushed into finishing it! I really wish I could've taken the time this epic conclusion deserves but alas..."
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 06:47
|
|
|
Scholtz posted:I think my favorite part of Pat taking so long to write the 3rd book is that he's WELL past what I would think is the smartest move if you're not confident in your ability to satisfyingly finish the trilogy: just put something, anything out and if it's poorly received say "I was rushed into finishing it! I really wish I could've taken the time this epic conclusion deserves but alas..." 2013: twitter image of the finished "draft" 2015/6: starts getting "where the loving book Pat" while he's trying to play Fallout 4 on twitch and rages about it 2017: lots of buzz around getting a showtime adaption and Lin Manual Miranda 2019: the cheerio vlog 2020: Editor says "I haven't seen anything in 7 years" 2021: Pat does a long vlog about how difficult the book is and suggests that maybe an incomplete story is better since you can always imagine your preferred ending
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 06:54
|
|
|
4 Ways Patrick Rothfuss Can Help You Improve Your Writing Good night everyone!!
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 07:14
|
|
|
eXXon posted:4 Ways Patrick Rothfuss Can Help You Improve Your Writing You motherfucker, you piece of poo poo
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 08:13
|
|
|
I love how every loving single one of these Patrick Rothfuss himself does not follow.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 11:56
|
|
|
Finishing a book takes focused, dedicated time. Writing as a hobby is fun, but if you want to publish, you need to find time to really, genuinely put in the work.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 16:59
|
|
|
I honestly wish Malazan got all the press Rothfuss got because at least it is a complete story and better books.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 17:24
|
|
|
I don't think the painfully overwrought angst and endless chapters of
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 17:59
|
|
|
I tried reading Malazan but I think I caught it at the time where I was very, very tired of Fantasy and the first chapters encompassed all of the reason why I was falling out of the genre.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 18:49
|
|
|
Gardens of the Moon is the price you pay for the insanity that is Karsa.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 19:05
|
|
|
I read a few books of the Malazan series. Only thing I remember being interesting was a fat man running around playing the fool but was secretly a spymaster or some poo poo. And a dragon that took human form? Or maybe it was a draccus in human form.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 19:10
|
|
|
It has some cool fight scenes and 600 characters who who have all been drafted out with their character classes and power levels as their primary characteristics, if you don't enjoy both of those things it is very much not the series for you
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 19:14
|
|
|
It had like 2-3 ancient empires that if awoken would destroy the world including the bone sword guys who could wipe out entire armies. Hard to have a care for some epic saga when they basically stumble into into a different almost apocalypse every book.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 19:19
|
|
|
I remember liking memories of ice the most, but yeah malazan used to be the two authors RPG or something so you can see how they did a sort of proto-litrpg with pretensions of literary weight. It's a mess but there is some good stuff in there. It does suffer from constantly tripping over new and more awesome world ending badasses every five minutes but its trying to do something thats uncommon which is a high powered fantasy series with like anthropology in it. Undead neanderthals are cool, undead magic (or hi tech?) super dinos are cool.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 19:54
|
|
|
pentyne posted:It had like 2-3 ancient empires that if awoken would destroy the world including the bone sword guys who could wipe out entire armies. Malazan made a whole lot of sense to me once I learned it was basically the guy turning his pen and paper sessions into a fantasy series.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 20:40
|
|
|
Evil Fluffy posted:Malazan made a whole lot of sense to me once I learned it was basically the guy turning his pen and paper sessions into a fantasy series. You mean the way there are three pairs of "brooding assassin and his mate, a theatrical and talkative wizard"?
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2022 20:50
|
|
|
I like Malazan quite a bit but there are at least a few places where you can see the GURPS campaigns awkwardly stitched together. Like one character who's in a life-altering cataclysmic seige and becomes the giant shape-shifting avatar of a tiger war god and the next time you see him he's ditched everybody and taken a job as a caravan guard with a new cast of NPCs.
|
|
#
?
Mar 19, 2022 01:42
|
|
|
Sham bam bamina! posted:Finishing a book takes focused, dedicated time. Writing as a hobby is fun, but if you want to publish, you need to find time to really, genuinely put in the work. Indeed. But that's why he hasn't finished the third book, or perhaps even started it. He's too busy loving around with other things and not even bothering with the writing part.
|
|
#
?
Mar 19, 2022 02:17
|
|
|
Glowing review of rothfuss on the hacker news comments page. If you’re not familiar, that website is filled with libertarian techbros who have the worst takes on everything quote:screye 13 minutes ago | next [–]
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2022 02:42
|
|
|
mlnhd posted:Glowing review of rothfuss on the hacker news comments page. If you’re not familiar, that website is filled with libertarian techbros who have the worst takes on everything ahem.  How the hell do you square that away with how obviously dropped from short stories a lot of the chapters are? Kchama fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Mar 20, 2022 |
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2022 12:57
|
|
|
mlnhd posted:Glowing review of rothfuss on the hacker news comments page. If you’re not familiar, that website is filled with libertarian techbros who have the worst takes on everything this sounds like that video where rlm was talking about boyhood "it's a masterpiece of perfection"
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2022 13:04
|
|
|
Kchama posted:ahem. Coding and hacking is mostly just stringing together unrelated short blocks, often written or inspired by other people, until you end up with a somewhat functional whole.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2022 15:40
|
|
|
IT guys give me the same "confidently stupid" vibe that a lot of surgeons do.
|
|
#
?
Mar 20, 2022 19:36
|
|
|
On the one hand, I want to laugh and point out to my wife that Sanderson's books are being compared to that Rothfuss guy I infrequently complain about because of course they are, but on the other hand I don't want to further disrupt her beleaguered attempt at finishing Gardens of the Moon 'cause then her and a few friends might read The Wizard Knight next. Got so pumped at the announcement I had to listen to it again, and then they stalled out. Looking forward to listening to it again again when they pick it up. There was a time when I might've liked Sanderson, but it's really hard to go from economy of words / understated to extravaganza of exposition. Heck, there was a time when I thought GRRM was subtle.
|
|
#
?
Mar 21, 2022 20:13
|
|
|
Sanderson always feels like I'm reading a let's play of someone's RPG campaign played using a competent homebrew tabletop system. Where it's written that half the appeal is that you are reverse-engineering the system used by the story beats presented. Not my preference but putting him and his writings in the same conversational sphere as Rothfuss feels ridiculous.
|
|
#
?
Mar 21, 2022 22:58
|
|
|
Brandon's books sort of read like polished first drafts. When I say that, I don't mean it inherently negative as his books can sometimes be blessedly easy to read if you've been going too hard into Ye Olde Fantasie prose (which is probably why his books are so popular out of the Anglosphere). That said, I do very much feel like I'm doing proofreading in an amateur writer's group when I'm reading his "Kaladin walked to the door. Then he opened the door. Then he went inside," types of passages.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2022 03:39
|
|
|
I looked at a Sanderson book once, and like the first 15 pages were describing a magic fight in excrutiating detail. Sorry dude, you can’t just describe the sick rear end anime fight you have playing in your head. Become a mangaka at that point, you know?
|
|
#
?
Mar 27, 2022 19:51
|
|
|
porfiria posted:I looked at a Sanderson book once, and like the first 15 pages were describing a magic fight in excrutiating detail. Sorry dude, you can’t just describe the sick rear end anime fight you have playing in your head. Become a mangaka at that point, you know? I think literally every single one of his novels starts this way.
|
|
#
?
Mar 28, 2022 00:23
|
|
|
It's his mark. Well, that and a character pining for the advanced technology of "a cannery."
|
|
#
?
Mar 28, 2022 02:19
|
|
|
Write the book, Rothfuss! Also, I enjoy the fact that googling his name returns this: 
|
|
#
?
Apr 25, 2022 04:46
|
|
|
Surely if you are an unknown author publishing your first novel and receive an advance on the remaining titles, there’s a rider in the contract that it has to be delivered by a hard date a reasonable distance in the future? Even if the first novel is a smash hit? Publishers were bleeding even back when NoTW was published, I can’t imagine this wasn’t the case and we aren’t getting close to it being due. Unless it was only tied to the second title, and that’s why it was poo poo out with such haste.
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2022 05:18
|
|
|
It's the 21st century, no one is clawing back advances. You put that money up as a bet, and just accept it as a loss. You're not even allowed to lock them in a hotel room with a typewriter anymore.
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2022 07:43
|
|
|
Yo is the third book ever coming out? Want to know more about female wind ninjas who think they spontaneously concieve children and if the worlds greates sex haver ever bangs curly haired whats her face
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2022 21:44
|
|
|
Your Gay Uncle posted:Yo is the third book ever coming out? Want to know more about female wind ninjas who think they spontaneously concieve children and if the worlds greates sex haver ever bangs curly haired whats her face It's not. https://winteriscoming.net/2022/05/03/patrick-rothfuss-has-an-update-on-the-doors-of-stone-chapter-hes-releasing/ He promised to release the chapter he claimed he would soon have written last year. It didn't materialize. He then promised he'd release it if his Combined with the fact that his editor said she has never been given anything on book 3 two years ago, he presumably only actually started writing it a little bit last year, but hasn't gotten past the prologue. His life is busy, you see, and readers aren't owed books. Now keep sending him money to write more and he definitely will, but remember that you aren't owed anything!
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2022 21:55
|
|
|
Kchama posted:It's not. I had wondered if he ever did keep his word and release what he said he would. I figured he wouldn't.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2022 21:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 08:31 |
|
|
Kchama posted:He promised to release the chapter he claimed he would soon have written last year. It didn't materialize. He then promised he'd release it if his I'm pretty sure this approaches if not outright crosses the line into charitable fraud if people were donating because of said promise. e: Though since the money was going to a "charity" and not being taken from it probably not?
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2022 00:08
|
|