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Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Bradley and Breen left a lot of wreckage in their wake...

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Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

pospysyl posted:

There are just a lot of them. In the first book, there are I think over ninety chapters, each anywhere from 2 to 15 pages long. I'm not sure how Rothfuss decides how to start a new chapter, because there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to them. A tense action sequence might be divided up into four or five chapters. Sometimes he'll start a new chapter in the middle of a sentence. It's like how Goosebumps uses chapter divisions, only without the self-awareness.

I couldn't read those books as a kid because they made me irrationally angry. It wasn't until I read Dan Brown as an adult that I figured out the reason was the idiotic chapter pacing.

Funny Dan Brown story. I was halfway into my art history education when The DaVinci Code landed, and had come back for spring semester right after it had become a cultural...thing. My cranky Gothic/Renaissance/Baroque professor stopped his lecture to rant about every detail Brown got wrong in his books, then tore into the style and pathetic use of language, and ended with, "and finally, HIS NAME IS LEONARDO. VINCI IS WHERE HE'S FROM."

My family still insists on asking me to help them understand the art references in that stupid book. I'm running out of conversational deflection strategies, and have settled for getting belligerently drunk well ahead of time.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Harrow posted:

For some reason I assumed Lord of Light would be a book I'd bounce off of but that description sounds pretty fantastic.

Zelazny is a great writer.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Kchama posted:

Pretty sure it's because he doesn't have a process to really tak about. That'd explain where book 3 is.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

StonecutterJoe posted:

So, uh, he found something new to do that isn't writing: http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/myth-or-monster

He looks like that. On purpose. Huh.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Hammer Bro. posted:

Maybe it had to do with Rothfuss' masculine musk.

Now I'm imagining him furtively scribbling backhanded compliments in books, then, glancing over his shoulder to see if anyone is looking, he takes the dust jacket off the book and carefully rubs it beneath his armpits, making sure his musk fully penetrates the fabric of the cover. He has left his mark. He is pleased.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

my bony fealty posted:

Yeah Im not gonna pay too much attention to a list that has Eragon

FTFY

I met Paolini in passing at a book signing in the Bozeman Costco once. Smug little gently caress gave me the instant, "ew, no"s.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Evil Fluffy posted:

Author is a hack? Check.
Happened to be in the right place at the right time? Check.
Pathetic amounts of wish fulfillment oozes from the books? Check.
Fanfic based on it has become an even bigger hit? ...not yet.

3 out of 4 is close enough.

I mean, it's already essentially Star Wars alt universe fanfic.

That said, Paradise Valley is a lovely place, and I highly suggest visiting if you have the opportunity. It's not surprising at all that someone was inspired to write a fantasy novel by living there. That part of Montana is like Lord of the Rings, only accessible by roads (mostly).

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

HIJK posted:

Eragon is another example of an author with potential getting ruined by hype. There's some decent stuff in the first book (like the dead baby) and if someone had mentored Paolini early on I think he could have been something special.

But that didn't happen, so...

Yeah, my read is that he had raw talent, but was too isolated for it to be nurtured properly.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

ShinsoBEAM! posted:

It's mostly just when authors get super popular the author/editor relationship gets a bit out of wack I believe.

Seems to be a pattern. See also, Anne Rice, LKH...

Ugh, I just revealed my teenage reading habits, didn't I?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

HIJK posted:

Do the exact opposite of what LKH does.

This is how I live my life.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Sham bam bamina! posted:

Laurell, not Lauren. Her Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter series is infamous for devolving almost completely into porn.

I don't know why everyone was so insistent on using her initials.

Because her name is long and I don't respect her enough to type it all out.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
"Chapter Ten-thousand: History and When Nothing Happened" is my favorite :allears:

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Rothfuss is like Christopher Paolini, but he doesn't have the excuse of being an isolated, home-schooled 16 year old boy.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Nakar posted:

Considering it restricts the range of your instrument, wouldn't most people in an audience be okay with a musician taking fifteen seconds to switch out an instrument in order to continue a great performance rather than watch them struggle to produce a workable performance with busted poo poo?

Because I would just be like, hey man accidents happen, swap out your lute. I'd be kind of pissed if he just tried to keep going.

Is it their backup instrument or someone else's? Is it tuned the same? Can the song be restarted without losing the audience? A lot of times, once you lose the energy of the room, it's not gonna come back.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Atlas Hugged posted:

I've been at concerts where the band kept a handful of spare guitars to the side of the stage in case a string broke. But that's one guitar in a five piece and so switching out one instrument can almost go unnoticed if they're fast about it.

One band swapped both guitars at least once per song. They must have used super light gauge strings and played like madmen.

I wonder if they practice that, like pit crews. I'm happy if I can twiddle a knob or two between songs without breaking everything.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Solice Kirsk posted:

Imagine Connect Four meets Tic Tak Toe. That beautiful. We had pizza delivered once and the pizza guy was like "That's a beautiful game." True story.

Pizza deliverymen are the true arbiters of beauty in this cruel world.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Benson Cunningham posted:

Because the only reason to invite a pizza delivery guy inside is to gently caress them. It's incredibly inconsiderate to their fantasies to invite them inside for any other reasons. Like to look at a board game.

Or to smoke weed. It's not ALWAYS about sex :colbert:

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Analgesia? Will it fix my back pain and put me to sleep?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I feel bad for Paolini for lucking into a a publishing deal and a movie and a video game and all that junk with something he came up with as a kid. I'm sure it pays the bills, but if I had to write four best-selling novels' worth of any of the poo poo I thought was cool when I was 15, I'd have blown my brains out by now. It's practically become his whole life.

I don't think he's self aware enough to feel bad about things like that.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Sham bam bamina! posted:

Fourth is the map at the front.

Fifth is the glossary of made up words studded with apostrophes in the back.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Kchama posted:

As far as I know Ambrose won't be in the TV show. It's a prequel to the books (presumably because they realized the two books did not have a TV show worth of plot) about two bards. Though the fact that Sam Raimi is signed on makes me think it might be DoA, after the last licensed thing he signed onto. (Noir, which was going to have an absolutely dreadful live-action adaptation from Sam Raimi until it died in hell.)

Wait, adapted from the anime Noir? I mean, it wouldn't take much to make that show a live action thing, but...enh. Let's not.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Sham bam bamina! posted:

Sex-positivity is one thing, but Erika Moen's attitude is that anything that makes someone wet or hard is good and fun and cute and pink and never has any issues or problems and should never be examined or questioned at all.

I met her after seeing her on stage as part of Amanda Palmer's book tour, when Palmer brought local artists in stage for a panel. I always wondered why she gave me the weirds, and now I know why!

I mean, besides having been on a stage talking to Amanda Palmer, of all people.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

I've posted this before, but loving up "Teinkle Twinkle Little Star" isn't a joke, it just makes you incompetent.

Agreed. I'm a performer. Played a stringed instrument on stage, even. If you gently caress up, especially at something everyone knows, the best you can hope for is merely losing the audience. Worst case, you're dodging projectiles and wondering if you can get to your car in one piece.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

Have you considered the person who wrote it had already eaten their hands in shame from some other piece of poo poo they'd written before and produced the review here by using text-to-speech? It's definitely possible

Obviously they forgot to eat their tongue in shame as well.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

This is why I don't read stunt casting introductions.

HIJK is spot on.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

PJOmega posted:

The thing that finally convinced me that the Anita Blake books were too far gone was when I skipped a sex scene chapter for the next chapter to be a continuation of that selfsame sex scene chapter.

Was that the book where it's literally 50 pages of setup, ~300 pages of various characters in one location in various states of loving and yelling at each other, and then 50 rushed pages of wrap up?

I forget which book it was, but yeah, definitely my last LKH.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

PJOmega posted:

I want to say it was werehyenas where I finally gave up but I'm not sure. I was taking the trains around Europe using a 3g Kindle with pirated ebooks so I really have no way to go and check which one it even was. It's been more than a few years.

Was a shame, because I really enjoyed the first few as supernatural pulpy noir with a woman protagonist that wasn't all about which boy she'll choose.

Werehyenas definitely ping my, "Oh gently caress, I definitely read about something like that once, so that might be it," sensors.

I remember when the early Anita Blake books were consciously chaste, and even when she and the vampire dude started fuckin' in like book 9, it was all about OMG CONDOMS and OMG CONSENT. And then allegedly LKH broke up with her husband, whom she allegedly based the fictional AB-verse werewolf off of, and started dating a short dude with a huge cock who she apparently based the were...tiiiiiger..? off of, and then things really went off the rails.

I tried to read her blog recently just for the lulz and it was merely sad.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Thanks @Dienes, that all tracks. It turns out I haven't thought about LKH for a while, so I forgot all the details. You've filled in the blanks, and...I can't say I'm grateful, but thx anyway?

HIJK posted:

God the LKH books are such a trainwreck, still astounds me how quickly they went off the rails.

Quickly and comprehensively. I mean, they were fairly lightweight urban fantasy to begin with, but they were serviceable. The use of relatively obscure folklore was cool (at age 15 or so), and I found some new stuff to read about through that. But when it went off the rails, woof, it took out an orphanage, a school for the blind, an old folk's home, caught fire, and spewed enough radioactivity to make the area uninhabitable for a dozen generations. Also, her blog is seriously amazing if you feel like reading something that makes you want to :psyboom:

I remember texting my friend after reading the first few chapters of one of the post-divorce-schism books in a B&N, and Anita was having a threesome with two of the vampires within the first 30 pages, and basically said, "ASHER, STICK IT IN MY BUTT," and now if I need to get my friend's attention, I send her that phrase. That's also the line where I put the book down and couldn't stop giggling for the rest of the day.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
That is unacceptable.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Those glasses are a choice.

Someone made those.

Someone thought they were a good enough idea to sell them.

And then Pat Rothfuss thought they were a good enough idea to buy and wear them.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
So what you're saying is NotW is the first mainstream LitRPG?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

HIJK posted:

Does Lionsgate have a track record with this stuff? All I remember from then is the Punisher movie.

They were a middling production company until Twilight went buck.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Isn't this the part of the thread where BOTL would yeet in and exasperatedly tell us enjoying something mindlessly is bullshit?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
I read the first couple of lines, rolled my eyes, and muttered to myself, "You wrote a poem because you're too lame to look up non-mainstream porn? Fuckwit."

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
He hides his secret manuscripts inside them. Well, inside one. The rest are just decoys, in case a passing pizza delivery guy gets a little TOO into his beautiful game.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

"They are beautiful Cheerios", said the pizza boy, with a smile that parted his face like sun rising over grey clouds.

:unsmigghh:

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

pseudanonymous posted:

That sounds good. And I live in Portland. Why am I not aware of such things? I mean good to drink, not with ice cream. And no I don't want to date rape Patrick Rothfuss fans.

You've never had Not Your Father's Root Beer? John's Marketplace has it for sure, but I see it in a lot of stores around PDX (assuming you meant OR). I think they also do an orange soda, and maybe a Mountain Dew-alike. There's probably some locally brewed variants, too, because hipsters, but boozy sodas aren't really my thing.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Ornamented Death posted:

I believe he teaches.

Again, where is his income coming from?

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Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

anilEhilated posted:

Let me guess - tits?

Or boobies. There are options.

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