I was catching up with a friend of mine this past week and she mentioned that she was trying to read Name of the Wind a second time because she "didn't feel like she quite got it" the first time. I told her I didn't like it, and it was like I was a spy giving another spy the password. She went right into a tirade about how much she hated Kvothe and how dumb everything was and how she couldn't understand why everyone had recommended it so heavily to her. It was really funny but also a little hosed up that she felt pressured enough by fan friends to reread a book she wanted nothing to do with. Then I told her about all the poo poo that happens in Wise Man's Fear and she thought I was making it up
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2017 23:40 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:34 |
Pretty sure I bitched about this in the first thread too, but the Tarbean part not only makes no tonal sense, it directly undermines actual poo poo that happens later. "You don't know what it's like to be truly poor," says Kvothe about how embarrassed he is to not have enough shirts or not being able to afford to go out to eat with his friends... conveniently forgetting that time he beat another kid's brains in with a brick on the corner of Rape Street and Starvation
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2017 04:48 |
Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Reading about this clownsnack makes me feel so much better about my own writing. If THIS motherfucker can get published then surely I can. Right? RIGHT?? That's not how it works and it will make you insane if you let yourself think about it in these terms
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2017 23:04 |
Dirt Road Junglist posted:Rothfuss is like Christopher Paolini, but he doesn't have the excuse of being an isolated, home-schooled 16 year old boy. Paolini used to make me really mad when I was younger but now I kinda like him and respect his hustle even though his work sucks. Rothfuss, on the other hand,
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 05:04 |
Sam Raimi seems way too interesting for this story
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2018 05:15 |
Jesus Christ
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2018 00:02 |
my bony fealty posted:Hot take - magic should be magical Hotter take - the specifics of magic only matter to the extent they undermine or reinforce the dramatic mechanics of the rest of the story
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 20:52 |
The Kenny Powers autobiography would 100% be a better book than WMF
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 20:54 |
What an extremely Suburban White Guy take
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2018 20:58 |
Everyone listen up, I've invented a new literary technique I like to call "before-shading"
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2018 00:39 |
Ccs posted:I’m not sure about bigwigs. They had a tiny publishing company that had only published 3 other books. Then the author did a ton of legwork going around to schools dressed as a medieval character and reading excerpts of his book. Which is another thing only a homeschooler could have the confidence to do. This eventually got him noticed by famous author whose kid liked the book and then it was republished by an actual major publisher. Yeah it's this. I used to resent him a lot when I was younger because he's a legit bad author but he has a ton of hustle, which is more than you can say for a lot of similarly bad authors(like the one this thread is about)
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2018 17:14 |
Ccs posted:But nudity and horrific violence would seem totally wrong in a Tolkien based series. GoT and those it inspired are much more interested in politics. There’s nothing mythical about the heroes, everyone’s a shade of gray. I dunno about that. There are absolutely good guys and bad guys in Game of Thrones. There's not really any gray to a Jon Snow or a Robb Stark or a Joffrey or a The Bastard
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2018 06:30 |
Ccs posted:So I’m rewatching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood which is a way better story about a 15 year old magic prodigy with an unusual hair color. It’s convinced me that long fantasy stories gain the most by being done in animation (where ridiculous things come off as less ridiculous) and also reminds me how badly Kingkiller maintains a sense of tension. Trap sprung and all that poo poo but it works in FMA while it fails here because the central event in the story is Ed and Al being severely punished for their prodigious nature, and because in practice all Ed's genius really allows him to do is function at the level of seasoned adults he's surrounded with rather than being able to own them all
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2018 08:37 |
FMA good, Kingkiller bad
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2018 00:53 |
If you think about it Ambrose's hostility is merely its own form of Kvothe dicksuckery
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2018 05:46 |
Oh man a bunch of new posts I wonder what old Pat is up to-- Is that the same comic that coined the "proud cuck" thing? The art looks really familiar
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2018 23:40 |
Sham bam bamina! posted:My quote was from that comic's accompanying text. Oh wow I've only seen the images. You're telling me the post as a whole manages to be even worse??
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2018 00:12 |
ElGroucho posted:I don't think I can force myself to power through the sex ninja bullshit I know is coming. There's a one thousand percent chance that Denna's just going to die in a way that paints Kvothe himself as the martyr
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2019 21:36 |
These are the sorts of problems you run into when you're just transcribing the setting of your D&D campaign
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2019 04:50 |
Atlas Hugged posted:My impression is that every episode is just a second draft (or more likely first) of every assignment he had to do as an undergrad with a few additional segments stitching it all together. It's why it's so disjointed and nonsensical. Some of them are actually transcriptions of his D&D character's adventures
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2019 03:49 |
ElGroucho posted:I'm so horny for kvothe, the 17 year old ginger That's Rothfuss himself B
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2019 20:25 |
Imagine thinking Robespierre was a villain in the first place
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 06:37 |
Sham bam bamina! posted:I already know that kind of weirdo, which is why this specific kind of weirdo gives me pause. It doesn't seem like that book should appeal in any way to the fanfiction mindset. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess AP English students who had to read it for class and don't have the life context to appreciate the story yet but still found the failed romance aspects engaging
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 20:56 |
I don't think that's necessarily crazy. Finishing a novel with school and/or a day job is really daunting and takes a long rear end time. Doing it within a year if your day job is writing shouldn't be that hard at all, even for these loving doorstoppers, presuming you're working on it regularly. Guess what Pat ain't doing though
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2019 00:05 |
Gitro posted:What I'm struggling with, and I think that this is a supportive community so I'm going to be honest here, is the idea that you could write those words to praise a thing you like and not immediately eat your own hands in shame Have you considered the person who wrote it had already eaten their hands in shame from some other piece of poo poo they'd written before and produced the review here by using text-to-speech? It's definitely possible
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2019 19:58 |
I demand more tea, sis
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# ¿ May 4, 2019 23:01 |
MORE TEA
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# ¿ May 5, 2019 03:45 |
The type of scumbaggery discussed in the tea here is not the "financial crimes" kind of scumbaggery, it is the "resentful lifelong nerd wins the lottery but retains his selfishness and disregard of others despite no longer needing it as a coping mechanism" kind of scumbaggery hth
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# ¿ May 5, 2019 20:06 |
The music of sex is a bassoon making a deep, long, slow fart sound
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 06:44 |
He may not know how to write about sex but he's a master at writing about masturbation
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 14:58 |
I'm just the opening band for this book I had nothing to do with because of this long review I wrote for an unrelated website that is mostly about me
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# ¿ May 7, 2019 18:54 |
Benson Cunningham posted:Everything characters do is finally controlled to serve the narrative or arises naturally as a consequence of a character's actions within their environment. Nah there's definitely a twee phenomenon especially in nerd writing circles about how ~my characters talk to me and we have conversations~ and teehee I just can't do the plot I want because my characters are so vivid and real and they don't want to do the story I made up and it's tremendously grating. Probably the first time I've ever agreed with something Rothfuss has said about the writing process tbh
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# ¿ May 21, 2019 07:20 |
Sham bam bamina! posted:Yeah, but the post you quoted was answering this: Ooops. Would you believe I'm dumb and careless about the post I was quoting But yeah we're just disappearing down the planner/pantser false dichotomy rabbit hole at this point. Deviating from your outline because you thought of a better idea is normal and you as the author are still in absolute control of the events of the story so romanticizing it is annoying and good on Rothfuss for throwing water on that even if he did it in a very Rothfussian way
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# ¿ May 21, 2019 20:51 |
Amputating my dick and hurling it into the Atlantic Ocean, then amputating my balls and hurling them into the Pacific Ocean
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2019 16:23 |
HIJK posted:At least they’re dating each other and not inflicting themselves on anyone else I guess Got bad news for you about infliction based on the con stuff
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2019 17:32 |
Again it's real real important to understanding why these books are the way they are to remember that Kvothe is his D&D character and the structure of the story has much more in common with a D&D campaign than with a novel. The quote-unquote worldbuilding bits like overly elaborate currency systems is poo poo you'd find laid out in tables within a DM guide for an adventure. Elements get constantly discarded because there's only so much carryover between sessions. Belated discoveries of "oh you find a sign of the Chandrian" is just something a DM throws in at the end of an area or a set-piece to justify the players' presence there narratively even if the real reason is because the DM just thought it would be cool to have them do. Even things that make no character sense like Felurian can be explained by Kvothe rolling a nat 20 on his gently caress Check
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2019 18:49 |
Nothing really precludes a story from being good just because it's based on a D&D campaign but it needs to be a novel first and a recreation of said campaign second. You can't just copy poo poo over 1:1 and expect it to function dramatically
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2019 22:58 |
It's totally reasonable to ask for receipts on poo poo like that. To my knowledge there is no documented fire, just an uncomfortable amount of smoke. IIRC the most detailed creepery account was from a goon in this very thread. Totally possible they were embellishing or fabricating poo poo and we're biased against him but they sounded credible and the description of his behavior seemed to track with the better-documented things
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 04:47 |
Yeah just to be clear there is no known evidence that Patrick Rothfuss is an actual sex criminal. At worst he is a garden-variety Performative Male Feminist creeppseudanonymous posted:I have 0 doubt there are neckbeards that force their girlfriends to read his books. A goon in this thread testified about how an ex-boyfriend "knew their relationship was over" when she didn't like Rothfuss. I'm like 80% sure you quoted that very goon here
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 06:21 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:34 |
I've been thinking about it for a few hours and I still can't decide if the mark in the middle of the face is a nose or a mouth
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 01:12 |