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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I imagine Caitlin's change is related to why she was working as a bartender and the person the guy with the creepy eye was talking about.

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

OB_Juan posted:

I ditched on last season around... ugh I don't even remember. This season seems a lot better so far. Here's hoping Barry keeps this 'edge of madness' thing up, it's way better than generically moody.

Barry was experiencing his whole timeline at once, right? We all read that the same way?

When the Samuroid said 'Welcome back Flash', I figured that was this season's Wells making his entrance, but I guess not. Is season two Wells still safely on Earth 2?

Yeah. S2 Wells is on Earth 2.

As far as Barry experiencing his entire timeline, that's probably the best guess at this point.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

howe_sam posted:

All of her plot lines on the show revolved around J'onn (she nearly turns him into a White Martian, she needs J'onn's help to get out of a psychic whammy, she needs J'onn and crew help to evade her White Martian "husband") so probably not?

As best I can recall. The show's only touched on race once, in the James-centric episode right before the Daxamite invasion last year

And this upcoming episode is her helping J'onn find another of the last Green Martians. Touching on minority issues with her character is a bit odd given that she's part of the majority "race" while J'onn is in the minority so anytime those sorts of issues come up J'onn is always relevant to the discussion and it'd be strange is he wasn't.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

RandomBlue posted:

That might be a good thing, that universe isn't so healthy lately. Arrow is barely limping along, Flash was sucking and Legends is garbage. This last episode of Flash was probably the best one since Season 1 even with all it's flaws. They need to keep up the fun tone they brought back.

Legends is not garbage tyvm.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
If Wally was added, it'd be sorta awkward since Wally also seems to be very mechanically inclined so it'd be almost redundant to add him.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
That is not how quantum entanglement works Harry.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Mooseontheloose posted:

This is one of the best episodes of the Flash ever and I am completely serious about this.

We're going back to meta of the week it seems like which I'm all for.

Edit: I want Cisco's shirt.

Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Oct 25, 2017

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

lotus circle posted:

This. It feels like they're really committing to giving the show some levity and not just saying it.

Tbf, a meta with a "luck" ability is really easy to make comedic.

Edit: Seriously? A Sully reference?

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Well that's a big bombshell. Also, see you on LoT then Wally.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Is it just a coincidence that there's been at least three characters with the last name Sharpe between three of the DCCW series.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Bruceski posted:

I think I've seen less contrived series of things going wrong in a Final Destination movie. This isn't a complaint, that was wonderful.

The whole group of people on the bus suddenly getting superpowers also felt vaguely Final Destination-ish

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I'm sure drunk people calling themselves the Flash is not an uncommon occurrence in Central City at this point. Probably even more likely if/when they get pulled over for a DUI

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

FactsAreUseless posted:

Iris' three closest women friends

- A friend of her fiance's she's met like twice

- A coworker she doesn't really interact with

- Her dad's girlfriend

It's real sad

That's pretty bad. I thought about how bad it was for Felicity and I realized that she has at least one more female friend than Iris, even though one is now in a coma, one is busy being the director of a clandestine organization, and one is a coworker she doesn't really interact with either. She does have that hacker friend/fangirl at least, but she's going into hiding iirc.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

STAC Goat posted:

In fairness the guys of Team Flash don't really have lives either. I mean, Cisco's got a family he never talks to and who hates him, a dead brother, and a girlfriend from another universe who visits him at work. Barry has some friends over on Team Arrow or other Earths. Joe did start a relationship at his other job, so that's probably an improvement.

Joe probably has loads of friends/acquaintances at the CCPD, but they'd never be allowed to know about his interactions with the Flash and there's no point in having isolated scenes with Joe unless it's relevant to the plot (or he's crooning)

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

VictorianQueerLit posted:

They really screwed up by not having Barry do one of his slow motion speedforce sequences while drunk, tripping over poo poo and stopping to throw up on the way to catch a bottle about to hit Joe or something.

They should'e shown him imagining doing it and then fall of drunk after taking a step

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
So the one at the door is either a disguised version or a past version. Outside odds on an alternate universe version.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
The preview for this episode didn't give me high hopes since it looked to be about Barry turning into a paranoid idiot for an episode. I'm disappointed to know that I wasn't wrong.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
At minimum, he needs Barry's access to the Speed Force. Beyond that, who knows? If he's as benign as he thinks he is, it may be a matter of him assembling those metas and convincing/coercing them to play their part. Weeper and the luck person seem obvious writhe the former's years used to synthesize a drug and the other basically make sure things go perfectly.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
RIP Dwayne McDuffie, one of the founders of Milestone Media and probably the best writer of black comic book characters ever.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Ryan Choi is also Chinese (by way of Hong Kong). Also Ray wasn't ever really brought back as the Atom after New52, but it was only just recently that Ryan was reintroduced as a new JLA member

Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Nov 24, 2017

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
The next Crossover should be The Legion of Three Two Worlds

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

nine-gear crow posted:

The perfect Arrowverse Legion of Doom is Thawne, Merlyn, Darhk, Grodd, Lillian, Laurel, and Zod (assuming Zod actually shows up again on Supergirl and wasn't just a one-off cameo).

Fight me.

You forgot The Trickster.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

STAC Goat posted:

I also kind of assume Oliver Queen and Barry Allen exist on Earth 38 but they're just nobodies or whatever. Oliver died in a shipwreck and Barry died in a lab explosion or something. Although I guess it would be funny for Kara to one day just run across one of them serving coffee.

Go back even further. Ollie only had a shipwreck because of Merlyn's machinations. It's probably the case that it never happened at all(or it did and Superman saved him) and Ollie's still a rich and useless idiot. If there's no Reverse Flash on Kara's Earth, then Barry's parents never died and he never became a CSI and STAR Labs hasn't happened yet (I think it still has nine years before their Wells gets it off the ground since Thawne didn't interfere?). Barry probably ends up as a doctor like his dad or something.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Guy A. Person posted:

My biggest complaint about this season is it would be so much better if the Rogues were a part of it. Their recurring story arc in season 1 was a highlight but unfortunately because of other shows (and stupid Star Wars :mad: ) cannibalizing the best of the roster and weird previous season writing mucking up others (Piper and Boomerang being effectively written off, some other 2nd tier rogues being killed off in the great villain purging in season 2) you're left with weak versions of The Top, Mirror Master and Weather Wizard. Maybe they'll have a Grodd and/or Kadabra episode in the back half.

If you haven't been watching Legends, you should know that Grodd's appeared there and will probably be part of the villain lineup for that series this season. Kadabra might show up though.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Guy A. Person posted:

I need badly to catch up on Legends, I've heard above any of them it's the show that embraced the camp and just went whole hog with it. I haven't watched any of this season unfortunately, will have to do that.

But jeez, another top tier flash villain stolen by Legends :bahgawd:

Grodd is expensive though so I don't expect him to appear for more than one or two more episodes.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

BrianWilly posted:

Okay?

Why?

So Barry can learn to run.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Avalerion posted:

Last two titans shows didn’t have kid flash. Might be thinking of young justice.

While why doesn’t Barry just “speed” has been a runninh theme on the show I feel Devoe makes it worse because they don’t even need superpowers, Joe or Wells should be able to take him.

Shame about a lame vilain because the other stuff this season has been good.

In an actual fight, sure, but I think the assumption is that DeVoe can largely predict if, when, and how the Flash team reacts to things so if he expected violence, he'd have prepared for it in advanced. It's just not really shown and the episode already has a case of Barry, presumably, one-upping DeVoe by escaping

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

graham cracker posted:

I'm really getting pissed at all the times Flash has a clear opportunity to take out Devoe with super speed and just loving can't. Also, when he had the flash caught with his chair he could have easily taken over the Flash's body right there and then?

I want to see Brainstorm somehow evolve into Brainiac by the end of the season. Then Brainiac takes over Grodd's body so we have some weird Thinker/Brainstorm/ Brainiac/Grodd super villain.

I think the idea that DeVoe wants to take over Flash's body is wrong. DeVoe needs his connection to the speed force. Barry's just the meat puppet that's attached. Separating Barry from that and putting it in the hands of DeVoe is part of his end game I assume.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Autism Sneaks posted:

someone elsewhere on the forums did a write-up on it, I think it was darkpriest or in a thread he made, but most of the big aggregate porn sites are owned by one company (MindGeek) that mostly uses them for the insane amount of information on personal interests and trends. so they keep track, and the last graph Brazzers released showed faux-incest searches have doubled and in some cases quadrupled from '15 to '16. it's hands-down probably the most searched fetish or link or whatever in the US right now

It's definitely a trend right now and it's fairly inexplicable at the moment and without more historical data, it's unclear whether it's truly a trend or if there was always an undercurrent of incestuous desire lurking in US porn tastes. Idk if they tried to separate out the types of incest and hone in on trends or what searches tend to correlate with each other.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

ApeHawk posted:

Black Lightning makes me sad because they shoulda went for a Static Shock live-action TV Show instead.

Static is very much a different character from Black Lightning even though they have the same powers. At least they'll have the cg assets for a Static series if they do end up doing one

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Rhyno posted:

They signed a new deal with DC earlier this year but they hosed over Dwayne McDuffie's family and they are suing over it. Which might be why we haven't seen anything concrete with the properties.

DC announced they were planning something for 2018, but idk if that's still happening. Also that's hosed that DC is doing that to McDuffie's family. I know he was axed on not the best terms, but still.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Rhyno posted:

Sorry I wasn't clear, it was the remaining Milestone guys who did it, not DC.

Wow, gently caress them then.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Shaddak posted:

No, I'm saying that I know almost nothing about DC. I'm vaguely aware that both of these guys have electrical powers, but beyond that, I know nothing about them.

You could probably just look it up on Wikipedia.

In terms or powers, they're essentially the same. BL was born with his powers iirc and Static gained his from being exposed to a meta power causing explosion. BL has been updated to be a dad with two teenage meta daughters. Prior to that, he was basically just a black guy with electric powers. Static is a very smart teen at an inner city high school.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Dwayne McDuffie was too good for this world.

I need to dig up that page during his JL run where Vixen ends up in another universe and one of the JL members there is basically a chubby white guy who transforms (ala Captain Marvel) into a fit black guy with an afro by yelling "Black Power!" or something. It was a dig at some cutting room for idea iirc

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Guy A. Person posted:

Dwayne McDuffie could have just made a career being the one black dude in the room pointing out how pants-on-head stupid all the white dudes were about representation. But he was also a talented as hell writer. RIP

Him pointing poo poo out was the reason he got fired iirc

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Guy Goodbody posted:

It's not a Liefeld pose, one leg forward with the torso slightly twisted to the side is just a really good way to show musculature. You see some variant of that pose in both bodybuilding competitions and classical art.

It just looks sorta bad for some reason. Either Virgil is too skinny or the black suit hides a lot of the definition that the pose is meant to convey or something. There's just something off about it.

Edit: maybe it's the extra bit of ribcage or the over pronounced lips

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
I think the goggles need adjusting. That spot in the upper corner that's a little obscured seems like a small liability. It looks like the whole thing just needs to be pushed up a centimeter or two.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Autism Sneaks posted:

Well I and probably everyone else who cares enough to read up on it knows it isn't going to be a part of Berlanti's CWverse (not a bad thing imo), but I am curious how much of the comics they're leaving in beyond Jefferson and his daughters. Part of that is he is originally from the most Gotham-esque part of Metropolis, but all synopses of his show leave his "hometown" and "community" nameless so far. I'd get why they would change it if they don't plan on using any of Metropolis' classic baggage, but it would still kind of suck.

Since it's being filmed in Georgia, I guess it'll be not-Atlanta or not-Savanna or something.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Xelkelvos posted:

Dwayne McDuffie was too good for this world.

I need to dig up that page during his JL run where Vixen ends up in another universe and one of the JL members there is basically a chubby white guy who transforms (ala Captain Marvel) into a fit black guy with an afro by yelling "Black Power!" or something. It was a dig at some cutting room for idea iirc

Found it.


Source: http://doctor-k100.blogspot.com/2008/12/brown-bomber.html

It's a very special dig and nod to the founding of Black Lightning as DC's first Black superhero title may have been something quite different.

"Tony Isabella posted:

I will say that I created Black Lightning after convincing DC not to publish another "black" super-hero on which they had started work. The Black Bomber was a white bigot who, in times of stress, turned into a black super-hero. This was the result of chemical camouflage experiments he'd taken part in as a soldier in Vietnam. The object of these experiments was to allow our [white] troops to blend into the jungle.

In each of the two completed Black Bomber scripts, the white bigot risks his own life to save another person whom he can't see clearly (in one case, a baby in a stroller) and then reacts in racial slur disgust when he discovers that he risked his life to save a black person. He wasn't aware that he had two identities, but each identity had a girlfriend and the ladies were aware of the change. To add final insult, the Bomber's costume was little more than a glorified basketball uniform.

DC had wanted me to take over writing the book with the third issue. I convinced them to eat the two scripts and let me start over. To paraphrase my arguments...

"Do you REALLY want DC's first black super-hero to be a white bigot?"

Okay, he wasn't precisely their first black super-hero, but I made my point. The Black Bomber stories were deep-sixed and I went to work on my own creation.

As a note, this is from his online column dated June, 20 2000, but the linked archive only goes back to 2001 so idk if this is 100% true, but Isabella himself hasn't corrected this (he's still active online).

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Koalas March posted:

the fact they actually arrested him and put him in jail suggests you are correct.

If they shot him on sight, then you'd be correct.

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