There Bias Two posted:I'm confused about Hiro's motivations in light of the last episode. How is he so utterly callous and...alien toward strangers and acquaintances, yet deeply cares for his family? Yea, that's his thing. It's carried over from his childish mental compartmentalization of relationships, which was shown in a flashback in episode 2: 
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maybe hiro will become the good guy and put down the bad grandpa. you know that guy was doing suspicious stuff in a hospital, can't have that
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AnacondaHL posted:Yea, that's his thing. It's carried over from his childish mental compartmentalization of relationships, which was shown in a flashback in episode 2: So he basically never moved past the "child who sets anthills on fire" stage of emotional development? Now it just feels like he has a learning disability of some sort.
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Nov 10, 2017 12:21
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Isn't that how a lot of literal sociopaths are? They can care for people close to them but are otherwise devoid of empathy towards their fellow human beings.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:34
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Mordja posted:Isn't that how a lot of literal sociopaths are? They can care for people close to them but are otherwise devoid of empathy towards their fellow human beings. It is my understanding that sociopaths only pretend to care for those close to them because it is advantageous to them.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:42
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There Bias Two posted:I'm confused about Hiro's motivations in light of the last episode. How is he so utterly callous and...alien toward strangers and acquaintances, yet deeply cares for his family? So, this has already been answered up above, but this is something I saw frequently in the manga comments. I think a lot of people, not necessarily you, saw this as the author trying to redeem him, but it really all falls into place with his self-professed morality. I.E, if I know you, I love you; if you're a stranger, you're hosed lol. In a way, it sort of shows that he is still that (foolish)child that he once was. There Bias Two posted:It is my understanding that sociopaths only pretend to care for those close to them because it is advantageous to them. I assume that, since they are still people, there are levels before full-on "Everyone is my minion and this world is all for me".
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Nov 10, 2017 17:38
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Postal Parcel posted:So, this has already been answered up above, but this is something I saw frequently in the manga comments. I think a lot of people, not necessarily you, saw this as the author trying to redeem him, but it really all falls into place with his self-professed morality. I.E, if I know you, I love you; if you're a stranger, you're hosed lol. I don't see this as a redemption attempt, it just seems weird that he's obviously compassionate toward a handful of people and indifferent toward everyone else. But I guess there are plenty of people who behave this way in real life, it's just that most aren't careless enough to start mowing them down for giggles.
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Nov 10, 2017 18:19
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There Bias Two posted:I don't see this as a redemption attempt, it just seems weird that he's obviously compassionate toward a handful of people and indifferent toward everyone else. But I guess there are plenty of people who behave this way in real life, it's just that most aren't careless enough to start mowing them down for giggles. most people also don't have the freedom to mow people down for the giggles without consequence maybe cops
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Nov 10, 2017 18:20
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There Bias Two posted:So he basically never moved past the "child who sets anthills on fire" stage of emotional development? Now it just feels like he has a learning disability of some sort. Based on the latest episode, my take: looks like right around that time is when his mom and dad divorced, given the ages of the dad's 2nd family's children. So this could have been his emotional coping mechanism But I mean, obviously he's pretty hosed in the head, and has done terrible things of which he doesn't grasp the consequences, so I don't think this is a learning disability, just bog-standard sociopathy.
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Mordja posted:Isn't that how a lot of literal sociopaths are? They can care for people close to them but are otherwise devoid of empathy towards their fellow human beings. Correct, like most mental disorders there is a spectrum of severity, some sociopaths are able to form somewhat normal relationships with people close to them and feel emotions on their behalf, others only form abusive and exploitive relationships. Also in Hiro's case we have the whole "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" angle which obviously complicates things.
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Nov 10, 2017 21:55
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Expect My Mom posted:Finally got around to watching the second episode after hearing how difficult was and oofa doofa that was rough, but also cool. I really dug the cyborg body horror from the OP and first episode and the hard turn into just straight horror/thriller in this one. It really doesn't hold up..even when Oku (the mangaka) set it up as a short series. It is almost like he forgot what he was going to do with the story/characters at the end like he did with Gantz. I am really hoping that the anime version explains and flesh things out better (like what happen with Gantz anime). JMO lyricaldanichan fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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Nov 10, 2017 22:29
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lyricaldanichan posted:It really doesn't hold up..even when Oku (the mangaka) set it up as a short series. I agree, however I argue that it's more coherent than Gantz(manga) which goes balls to the wall stupid towards its ending. Alien Hitler Ghandi Monroe...ughhhhhhh
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Nov 11, 2017 00:36
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Anime was going well, marathoned the manga. Was not expecting the most half-assed Death Note fanfiction I've ever seen, kinda surprised an established author pulled it out of his rear end tbh.
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Nov 11, 2017 02:07
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Rime posted:Anime was going well, marathoned the manga. Was not expecting the most half-assed Death Note fanfiction I've ever seen, kinda surprised an established author pulled it out of his rear end tbh. Is it not worth finishing?
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Nov 11, 2017 02:17
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I think it's probably worth finishing the Anime and it will deliver some feels, but not if you also finish the Manga.
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Nov 11, 2017 02:42
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There Bias Two posted:Is it not worth finishing? It is, but don't go in with high expectations. Especially if you are not familiar with the way the mangaka (Oku) tells stories. If you have Crunchyroll subscription, you can read all of the manga. It ended about a month (or so) ago.
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Nov 12, 2017 10:15
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One thing I like about Oku works is his utter disdain for the youth of today. Like, when he shows message boards and texts and the like, he goes hard on the cynical and hateful style of writing for those people. It's absolutely hilarious. An example would be towards the end of Gantz, where people are posting crap like "ww this kurono dude's gonna get hosed up wwwww" or "gues the worlds ending wwww BANZAI °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖° "
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Nov 12, 2017 19:02
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If there's one body horror thing they could do that would freak me out, it's the loving USB ports under the fingernails. drat does that make me uncomfortable.
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Nov 17, 2017 00:33
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It might be terrible of me, but I laughed when the kid basically just went full Ocelot in MGS4.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:03
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I'm real curious as to how Hiro was doing that. I can't tell if it was just a smash cut of his personally going to each individual or if it was something else in his arsenal.
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Nov 17, 2017 02:05
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Genocyber posted:I'm real curious as to how Hiro was doing that. I can't tell if it was just a smash cut of his personally going to each individual or if it was something else in his arsenal. nanomachines, son
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Nov 17, 2017 03:00
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alien magic
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Nov 17, 2017 03:18
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i didn't think hiro's redemption arc would happen so soon
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Nov 17, 2017 03:31
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Homura and Sickle posted:i didn't think hiro's redemption arc would happen so soon you can see in the opening credits he's talking happily to the grandpa so that will happen at some point in the future
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Nov 17, 2017 04:12
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where the red fern gropes posted:you can see in the opening credits he's talking happily to the grandpa so that will happen at some point in the future i just meant becoming a real hero by killing all of 2chan
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Nov 17, 2017 05:22
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Homura and Sickle posted:i just meant becoming a real hero by killing all of 2chan Truly a saint
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Nov 17, 2017 18:27
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Somehow this is going to end up with people calling Hiro "the coolest guy" and someone will do an edit with "the coolest guy" over an image of that kid drowning in his dad's blood or whatever like that Naruto thing.
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Nov 17, 2017 19:08
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Hiro, my dude, you forgot one of the most cardinal rules of the internet: NEVER READ THE COMMENTS
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Genocyber posted:I'm real curious as to how Hiro was doing that. I can't tell if it was just a smash cut of his personally going to each individual or if it was something else in his arsenal. Guessing lasers generated by the screens? I thought his weapon was air bullets, but maybe it’s pure light (and Inuyashiki has his own laser array).
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Genocyber posted:I'm real curious as to how Hiro was doing that. I can't tell if it was just a smash cut of his personally going to each individual or if it was something else in his arsenal. Well, considering how advanced the aliens seemed to be with their stuff about how the combat units they incarnated Inuyashiki and Hiro into could destroy the earth I would not be surprised if they are capable of manipulating energy in any way they desire at great distances. That whole sequence reminded me of the tech in Iain Banks's Culture books where the tech is advanced enough that a lot of it is pretty much magic as far as the characters are concerned, only the AIs that run everything can really understand the tech.
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Nov 20, 2017 00:25
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It’s just alien magic
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Nov 20, 2017 12:59
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I feel like I read this a long time ago and then forgot everything about it.There Bias Two posted:I'm confused about Hiro's motivations in light of the last episode. How is he so utterly callous and...alien toward strangers and acquaintances, yet deeply cares for his family? 
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Nov 22, 2017 07:04
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Sorry, I am now on team Hiro after this episode. gently caress 2chan.
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Nov 22, 2017 08:36
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more stuff happened, and promises to continue happening
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Nov 24, 2017 06:31
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Well, considering how advanced the aliens seemed to be with their stuff about how the combat units they incarnated Inuyashiki and Hiro into could destroy the earth I would not be surprised if they are capable of manipulating energy in any way they desire at great distances. That whole sequence reminded me of the tech in Iain Banks's Culture books where the tech is advanced enough that a lot of it is pretty much magic as far as the characters are concerned, only the AIs that run everything can really understand the tech. Clarke's Third Law Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Nov 24, 2017 09:09
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What a nice episode  Next week is going to be brutal. She is literally the last thing holding him back, so of course she has to die.
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Nov 24, 2017 15:29
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This was a good episode and were this any other anime I could see an awesome redemption arc coming out of this. Instead I am prepared for more pretend machine gun
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Nov 25, 2017 19:49
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It feels like the storytelling has gotten sloppier, lots of strands all going in different directions, unclear about the time and place events take place, and some weird subplot about Mari stalking the One Piece author's son to force him to divulge the mangaka secrets.
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Phobophilia posted:It feels like the storytelling has gotten sloppier, lots of strands all going in different directions, unclear about the time and place events take place, and some weird subplot about Mari stalking the One Piece author's son to force him to divulge the mangaka secrets. This apparently only has 3 more episodes. I can't see this going anywhere but downhill.
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