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flerp
Feb 25, 2014
derp makes this game tolerable. might be scum but oh well.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Okay, don't need to oneup me. Just let me and my lovely rhymes be

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Upon further consideration, CCKeane has been reduced from Double Hated to Hated.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
if i love him does it cancel out the hate?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Kasumeat posted:

Yeah, this is incredibly obvious now.

Can't say I agree with the strength of this assertion.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

PMush Perfect posted:

Upon further consideration, CCKeane has been reduced from Double Hated to Hated.

Everybody only regular hates me! It's a miracle!

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
The gently caress is going on in this game.

I had deep fried chicken livers and a whole mess of turnip greens for breakfast.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
cpig is in this game? they seem like scum with a really bad name.

##vote Kasu

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

Kasumeat posted:

This post is literally a claim of a Flerp, Derp, TM scumteam.

What does bother me about this is that Jfisk is a very good scum candidate too. Just look at his https://post No scumhunting, and he's not being belligerent and tunneling people. He's way, way more passive than I'm ever seen him and I've only seen him as town before. It's certainly possible that some of you are just atrocious town. I'd be willing to vote Jfisk today.

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED
Er here's his post history
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3837441&userid=167297

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
fisk is a 3p rhyme lyncher like u think its a joke but i was dead serious

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

flerp posted:

fisk is a 3p rhyme lyncher like u think its a joke but i was dead serious

What is a Rhyme Lyncher?

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
their win objective is to get the person w/ the rhyming pr lynched

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED
Ah, I did indeed think you were kidding. We probably have to leave him alive until we get at least one scum.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
sad part is prob tm is scum :(

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

flerp posted:

sad part is prob tm is scum :(

so kill him then and we also lose a 3p who cares if he wins he'll be gone

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

loving hell I can't get a grip on things.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Is keane's pr being constantly confused? I will say it makes me amused!!!

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Literally everyone kasu had cased turned out to be town. Why is anyone taking them seriously when we should be getting him down?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Tired Moritz posted:

Is keane's pr being constantly confused? I will say it makes me amused!!!

Good guess, but that is my very nature.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
##vote Kasumeat

I am playing ducktales on my nes right now.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


##vote kasu

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

##vote kasumeat

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
:redhammer: Oh no! I think Kasumeat is hammered!

Votecount for Day 4
With 8 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 27th, 2017 at 6 p.m. PDT -- that's in about 18 hours, 42 minutes.

Combined minimum postcount for days 3 and 4 is 16 posts.

Hated: derp, CCKeane

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Bla bla bla Night 4
Bla bla bla Day 5

Y'all hosed up.

Kasumeat, NO U, Town-aligned Bomb PR Swapper, has been dunked!

CCKeane, Aardvark, Vanilla Town has been endgamed!
derp, Twitter, Town-aligned Communicator Communicator / Bomb has been endgamed!
Tired Moritz, Dr. Seuss, Vanilla Town, has been endgamed!
flerp, That One Cool Mafia Player You Really Like, Town-aligned PR-Swapper Vanilla Town, has been endgamed!

CapitalistPig, Fire Ants, Goon has won!
St Evan Echoes, You Know Who, Godfather has won!
Jonathan Fisk, A Strong Gut Read, Rolecop has won!

Scum wins!

Moddoc

Thoughts:
- Holy gently caress did scum get lucky on their night kills. Doctor night 1, cop night 2 right as he submits an action that will nail CPig as scum.
- I underestimated just how much the PRs would throw off people's reads. It did so to the point where people were using some very shaky logic.
- Seriously, I could call out some 'lolwat' posts, but that feels rude.
- I feel like I shouldn't have pushed so hard on "don't try to figure out PRs", I meant it more as "don't focus only on PRs" but that ended up happening anyways.
- The PR Bomb was the only actual reason not to guess.
- I might try something like this again at some point.
- If Kasu was still the bomb, this game would've gotten a lot more interesting, but it got stolen when he swapped powers and PRs with derp.

girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Oct 27, 2017

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
mm i suck at this game

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED
GG

That's the most imbalanced setup I've ever seen. I would say that town has a ~1% winrate, were you to repeat this setup.

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED
Also I'm salty because I've never been mislynched before. But still, there should've been 1 scum not 3 rofl.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Kasumeat posted:

Also I'm salty because I've never been mislynched before. But still, there should've been 1 scum not 3 rofl.
How do you figure?

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

PMush Perfect posted:

How do you figure?

Well, in a pure vanilla setup, 11 town vs. 2 scum is balanced.

We had, just from the flips we've seen so far, 3 very anti-town PRs/roles (mine, Xad's, Jam's) which were all anti-town enough to be worth at least -1 townie each in the overall balance (my role kills 2 townies like 70% of the time, Jam's get him mislynched 100% of the time, Xad's too). Plus whatever the other things were. And the hated mechanic is EXTREMELY anti-town. Town get absolutely no benefit from players being hated unless they're triple-hated and don't waste a lynch, whereas it's extremely easy for scum to steal the game once a player is hated, and it does absolutely nothing to actually discourage lurking: All 3 scum lurked hard and there was absolutely no consequences.

With 3 scum in this setup, you probably needed like, 10 more VTs at absolute minimum to balance it.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


GG kasu, I sure am glad no-one went with you when you went hard after me d2 ;)

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

St Evan Echoes posted:

GG kasu, I sure am glad no-one went with you when you went hard after me d2 ;)

Yeah, well, why would you lynch scum when you could just lynch your only townie who's putting actual effort into the game.

Honestly I haven't gotten Mad At Mafia in over a year but this game has done it. This setup, and the SA mindset of punishing active posters is just unreal. I need a break.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
yeah that was an interesting game. thanks for modding. it is hard to make reads when its not clear if someone is posting bad because of their pr or because theyre bad. and also im bad at this game too apparently

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Kasumeat posted:

Yeah, well, why would you lynch scum when you could just lynch your only townie who's putting actual effort into the game.

Honestly I haven't gotten Mad At Mafia in over a year but this game has done it. This setup, and the SA mindset of punishing active posters is just unreal. I need a break.

man even post-game you're still really doing your role justice, hahaha

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

PMush Perfect posted:

How do you figure?

Think about it. Jam's PR gets himself lynched, 100% of the time, plus the NK. That's -2 townies off the bat. Mine is worth like -1.5 townies, Xad's around -1.5 townies, plus another -1 or -2 because it's on the Doc. Just those alone should have been worth about 7 town in this setup, and it still would've been scum-favoured.

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

Bifauxnen posted:

man even post-game you're still really doing your role justice, hahaha

Were you aware that I was you after N2? :P

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Kasumeat posted:

Were you aware that I was you after N2? :P

just finished looking at the moddoc lol

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
i hope i made jimmy proud :)

Kasumeat
Nov 18, 2004

I SHOULD GO AND GET FUCKED

Bifauxnen posted:

just finished looking at the moddoc lol

I picked you because we're basically the same Mafia player

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Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Kasumeat posted:

I picked you because we're basically the same Mafia player

:hfive:

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