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I think one of them is scum, but I don't think they're scum together since Mags could have very easily just stayed afk rather than pop in to vote his scumbuddy.
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hold up Asiina posted:If you targeted aC and Probst saw you how do we know probst saw them
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Oct 25, 2017 21:46
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:hold up We don't, that's whats so weird about this. B- appears to be saying, when he saw Probst voting him, he just assumed Probst must have had some data on him like tracking or watching, that made him go "hmm that B- is up to no good and that is why I will vote him now"
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Oct 25, 2017 21:55
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:hold up We don't. b- is assuming Probst saw him visit aC and that gives him a reason to vote him. I don't know why he wouldn't assume that Probst is a rolecop, and that's why he's voting him, since that'd be more realistic for someone who is a town roleblocker getting voted for what he assumes are night action reasons.
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Oct 25, 2017 21:56
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I agree with that assumption of guilt point that Asiina made, like why is it so worrisome to get caught doing any action on anybody who's not dead? B- could've even been a doctor or something
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Oct 25, 2017 21:56
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If this was Auspol no one would even care cause we used to use town roleblockers all the drat time haha
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Oct 25, 2017 21:57
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what is auspol this is like the 7th time someone is talking about that
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Oct 25, 2017 21:59
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auspol more like asspol
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Oct 25, 2017 21:59
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Jailer is more common than roleblocker for town, but it's not some super uncommon thing. Which is why Mags, who has played more than enough games to know this, shouldn't be voting for such a terrible reason. I'm stuck, I want to vote them both, but again I don't necessarily think they're scum together. I was about to say that I talked myself into voting b-minus, but I thought about Mags bad vote again and I don't want to move. My kingdom for a gun.
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Oct 25, 2017 22:00
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:what is auspol this is like the 7th time someone is talking about that no don't
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:what is auspol this is like the 7th time someone is talking about that Auspol is the Australian politics chat section of Something Awful, where the Mafia memes spread and had divergent evolution
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Oct 25, 2017 22:01
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I say do mr f tonight and reassess b- tomorrow
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Oct 25, 2017 22:04
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Bifauxnen posted:Auspol is the Australian politics chat section of Something Awful, where the Mafia memes spread and had divergent evolution that's really weird. what's up with so many aus/nz people on the forums, there's a ton of them in yospos and they're all terrible people.
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Oct 25, 2017 22:04
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:that's really weird. what's up with so many aus/nz people on the forums, there's a ton of them in yospos and they're all terrible people. don't sign your posts (or read yospos for that matter)
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Oct 25, 2017 22:05
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:I say do mr f tonight and reassess b- tomorrow Yeah, that sounds like a decent plan ##vote Mr. F
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Oct 25, 2017 22:05
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Btw Asiina was the journal thing a funny joke, if I was the type to let the fact that literally only 2 people would get it stop me, we would not have a stick figure comic
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Oct 25, 2017 22:12
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the best part is i didnt see poo poo
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Oct 25, 2017 22:24
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I'm going back and forth now
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Oct 25, 2017 22:29
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:I'm going back and forth now I know, right? I wanna say that's such a scummy reaction from B- too, but I know I gotta heavily compensate for always finding it scummy when someone can't see how super obviously town I am. Hey B- if you're scum y'all should withhold the NK tonight, make it out like you stopped em with your roleblock or something, make us get more paranoid about lunching ya, whattaya say
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Oct 25, 2017 22:53
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Oct 25, 2017 23:03
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Asiina posted:If you targeted aC and Probst saw you, why would he vote for you? Someone visits another person who doesn't die. How is that vote worthy? You didn't kill her, so you could have been doing anything. That assumption of guilt feels like scum paranoia to me. You're right about the paranoid part, wrong about the scum. I have only played a handful of games as a non-vanilla townie. I’ve never been a town role blocker. My first thought going into day 2 was that I blocked the doctor. It’s why my first post of the day mentioned the doctor, and questioned why Hal wasn’t protected. AC posted reasons why the protection of Hal wasn’t successful. b-minus1 posted:Well, if we have a doc, they clearly didn’t do their job n1. Cool AC posted reasons why the protection of Hal wasn’t successful. apostateCourier posted:Amen to that one. Or there's no doc, or the doc was blocked, or scumteam has a role that bypasses protection, or or or or or. Too little info to go on as far as that's concerned. ##vote Mr. F btw.
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Oct 25, 2017 23:24
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Oh hoooo That actually makes a weird kind of sense now
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Happy to vote Mr. F! He's at -2 though so gonna hold off in case he deigns to drop in and claim something.
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Oct 25, 2017 23:32
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B- I think the part that really made you look dodgy before was that "at most one or two people should be suspicious of me" remark. Cause like, anyone can be suspicious of anyone at any time in Mafia, for all kinds of reasons, they don't need a night action before it makes sense for someone to suspect you. That really came across like "scum mad about being found for what they see as wrong reasons" Pretty happy with the timeline of reactions you put forward here now though, it seems way more understandable
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Oct 25, 2017 23:33
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Bifauxnen posted:B- I think the part that really made you look dodgy before was that "at most one or two people should be suspicious of me" remark. Cause like, anyone can be suspicious of anyone at any time in Mafia, for all kinds of reasons, they don't need a night action before it makes sense for someone to suspect you. That really came across like "scum mad about being found for what they see as wrong reasons" yeah i can see why. i almsot didn't include that part in my post. but i did because i sincerely thought that sc64 was going to out himself to make a case against me. if he did watch AC/track me to AC, I wanted to assure him that my intentions were not malicious. I actually thought he got the message when his case against me never materialized, and he posted this: STONE COLD 64 posted:##unvote I've overanalyzed the gently caress out of this game.
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Oct 25, 2017 23:40
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I'm on my out the door, but I'm also feeling better about b-minus with this latest series of posts, so I'm locking in my vote now. Won't be back before deadline.
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Oct 25, 2017 23:45
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Someone gimme the tl;dr case of MrF over bminus1, cause I got IRL job hunting poo poo to do today
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Oct 25, 2017 23:51
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Infinitum posted:Someone gimme the tl;dr case of MrF over bminus1, cause I got IRL job hunting poo poo to do today Take 30 seconds to read his posts. Last two are great. He makes an excuse for not posting then the next day drops a bandwagon vote and disappears.
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Oct 25, 2017 23:54
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Cause bminus1's 'Town' Roleblocker gimme-a-minute-to-type-up-a-word-doc-aka-CONSULT-WITH-SCUMDOC-AS-TO-WHAT-I-SHOULD-CLAIM was such a suss as gently caress move, and I don't know how we've moved past that
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I'll be out the door in a minute and will potentially miss deadline due to job interviews today sorry!Tobbs Gnawed posted:Take 30 seconds to read his posts. So it's bandwagon voting then disappearing vs 'town' roleblocker? I'm pretty happy with my vote on bminus1 then, and we can look at MrF tomorrow and press for info.
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Infinitum posted:Cause bminus1's 'Town' Roleblocker gimme-a-minute-to-type-up-a-word-doc-aka-CONSULT-WITH-SCUMDOC-AS-TO-WHAT-I-SHOULD-CLAIM was such a suss as gently caress move, and I don't know how we've moved past that Yeah that was still kinda weird, but every other post suddenly makes more sense and seems more genuine looking back if he was thinking "oh gently caress did I gently caress up the doctor"
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Oct 25, 2017 23:59
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Town roleblocker is not unbelievable in a game with a hatecop.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Town roleblocker is not unbelievable in a game with a hatecop. I find it hard to believe becuase it doesn't have a rider like hatecop. Town roleblocker is all well and good, but a standard role in a game with nonstandard roles is odd. I'm keeping on b-1 for now, becuase I believe he is scum, his post hoc justification feels like it was just that, made up after the fact. But that being said, Mags is lovely as hell since he replaced in and I would not hesitate to drop a vote there if the b minus one train dries up, I'll just have to restart it tomorrow.
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Grandicap posted:I find it hard to believe becuase it doesn't have a rider like hatecop. Town roleblocker is all well and good, but a standard role in a game with nonstandard roles is odd. It's really not. Every game I've made and played with non-standard roles included standard roles.
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Grandicap posted:I find it hard to believe becuase it doesn't have a rider like hatecop. Town roleblocker is all well and good, but a standard role in a game with nonstandard roles is odd. it's fair enough to still see B- as scum cause that "wait let me type up a word doc" was still weird and he could've taken the time to just get a good enough explantion or something, but... this is a big assumption to make. Or is it normal for Eccogames to just never have a standard role without some twist to it? Even if that were the case though, this isn't even an Eccogame, it's a Max game that paid a bit of tribute to Eccogames in the first chapter as a cool twist. This seems like a bit of a forced justification.
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:It's really not. Every game I've made and played with non-standard roles included standard roles. You're right, hard to believe is a stretch, but to me at least, it feels like another weak point against it, in a long line of stuff. Town roleblocker - believable but scum is more likely Standard role in game with nonstandard roles - believable, but it feels like the it is less likely than playing it straight His reactions - scummy as gently caress. Calling it a forced reaction is overstepping a bit here, if it were my only point, sure, but it is a single bullet in a litany of points.
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Oct 26, 2017 00:31
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Dammit, I switched to reacting to Bif's post half way through, it is a response to both Bif and Tobbs.
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Oct 26, 2017 00:32
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Also I'm having fun in my foray back into mafia. I enjoy arguing with faceless people on the internet again. Yay!
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haha no worries I figured it out just means you're chilling at the bottom of the Lumpenlist is all
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Grandicap posted:You're right, hard to believe is a stretch, but to me at least, it feels like another weak point against it, in a long line of stuff. would you mind explaining why you have read me as scum since the beginning of the game? you've tunneled me from the start. excluding d1 jokephase, every post, including my early d2 softclaim, and the subsequent explanation for doing it, was made with the utmost sincerity. ive tried to respond to every accusation leveled towards me. i really did not think my role breadcrumb would end up backfiring so badly. is it really that hard to believe that I felt somewhat responsible for Hal's death by blocking a doctor night action?
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