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Max posted:
Hi all, I'm Bif but you can call me Shazza for short.
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Oct 20, 2017 12:35
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Bifauxnen replaces Jammy 
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Ooh yay D1 content. I like this argument for voting Hal, but if I'm not actually feeling him as scum by the end of today I'm also up for voting flerp, just cause he needs some time out to come up with a new drat gimmick.Retro Futurist posted:Jam probably started to type out a post, got too angry, had a heart attack and died.  Hal Incandenza posted:Well apostateCourier, let me start by first saying I would only make a case like this early into D1, as it's weak at best. Understood. Hal Incandenza posted:Jamuraan would be able to live with himself as a lurking town player and would most likely attempt to stay in the game if at all possible, but as scum he would not be able to live with himself if he lurked his way to a victory and/or let down his teammates who would be counting on his experience and wisdom to help carry them to a scum victory. Have you actually ever seen Jam's scum game? I haven't seen any games where he's been scum at all. If you're thinking of back when he used to post before, isn't that a long time ago?
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Oct 20, 2017 19:38
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flerp posted:how dare u say this is a gimmick i genuinely want to shoot u dead Man why are you being so mean and bullying and unfun! Gonna vote Asiina as your obvious scumbro is she doesn't call you out on this poo poo
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Oct 20, 2017 19:59
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Mafia edit: IF she doesn't call you out on this poo poo
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Oct 20, 2017 20:01
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Uh, Hal you gonna answer that question? It's kinda relevant here
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Oct 20, 2017 20:57
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apostateCourier posted:##vote Bifauxnen This is an interesting shift, from "looks like they're trying to actually gather info and find a lead on D1 to move out of jokephase" to "just blindly vote with no comment on anything that ~looks weird~ hoping it picks up traction"
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Oct 20, 2017 21:20
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Hal Incandenza posted:Of course I have seen his scum game and I am pretty sure since he’s been back. But really that’s not relevant here since this is about his intent and not his actions Actually it's about me trying to work out your intent, since I am in the position to already know Jam's alignment. Which game was it?
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Oct 20, 2017 21:22
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apostateCourier posted:I Do Not Like that post you made, more than I don't like Hal's weird case based on the replaced poster's history. It was a weird call-out you made and yes I admit it's a gut call. Interesting. A "weird call-out" is how you interpreted that, hm ##vote apostateCourier
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Oct 20, 2017 21:26
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gif Probst posted:gun emoji finger pointing at the user emoji What's up Probst my man sorry to demote you back to second towniest, if you are town
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Oct 20, 2017 21:28
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apostateCourier posted:Saying you're going to vote someone if they don't do X that's not town/scum based is weird, yes. It's almost as if it was a personal joke that you could not understand from not having been there for the relevant Mafia history, but who needs to try and infer context when it gives you something weird-sounding to vote without feeling self-conscious!
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Oct 20, 2017 21:29
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Asiina posted:Oh, was it a joke about how I don't like when people are mean? He literally says he wants to shoot me dead at every point regardless of content, sheesh I really gotta recalibrate though if you think that one all-caps sentence was bullying 
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Oct 20, 2017 21:31
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apostateCourier posted:"second towniest, if you are town" is not a statement I would think that town would make. Lol Ok maybe I'm being cruel and not understanding enough about your anti-social tendencies, I'm sorry that my trying to still hobnob and socialise a bit with players I know when I just showed up and you were trying to move on from jokephase has confused you so greatly
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Oct 20, 2017 21:33
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apostateCourier posted:The way you're responding to this is making me more and more comfortable with my vote. Standard scum script 101 yawn
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Oct 20, 2017 21:34
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flerp posted:i like ya bif its why i have to shoot u I'm sorry I broke your heart flerp but I'd never ever been a serial killer before so like hell I was gonna just roll over for your clever "Realtalk are you an SK" gambit!!
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Oct 20, 2017 21:36
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Asiina posted:Bif I did not understand your joke was a funny, funny joke. Yeah no worries I actually like how you and Grandi are getting the ball rolling this game
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Oct 20, 2017 21:39
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apostateCourier posted:What, saying that I find your responses scummy is scummy? Since when? Oh nah town do that a lot too, it's just a classic way to develop your weak point if you're scum so it was funny. Step 1: find something that vaguely ~sounds weird~ to vote and don't bother explaining, just hope they sound more weird again when they complain Step 2: even if it gets explained just go "WELL even if my original case wasnt too strong the way you're posting in reaction to it makes it even better!!!"
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Oct 20, 2017 21:42
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Infinitum posted:Still like 50+ hrs left in the day my friend, and you're getting tilted with only 3 votes on you? Yeah I frequently get that many before I even wake up in the morning
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Oct 20, 2017 22:57
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Oh Inf did you finally finish up those bazillion dicks, is that why you're playing Mafia again
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Oct 20, 2017 23:21
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Asiina posted:So Bif what's your actual opinion here on aC? My opinion on AC is that they are scum. At first I thought AC's questioning of Hal looked like good form, trying to legit scumhunt on D1, but they abandoned this to just emptyquote vote me for the type joke I made about you and flerp. I suspect this is coming from a scum motivation, wanting to find a good wagon to get on and shade to throw. AC continued this strategy by going on to quote my post to Probst, which similarly felt like lazy "I don't get this person's jokes so I'll just vote them for ~being weird~" The "your responses make me think you are more scum!!" post here is not a vital part of my case, but it is a vital part of my taunting.
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Oct 20, 2017 23:26
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Asiina posted:I mean my Hal vote was originally for a bad vote on you via how Jam replaced out, but the fact that he was dodging questions from both of us about it (is it a real or a joke vote? Has he even seen Jam as scum since he came back) makes it look worse than just a dumb reason for a vote. But I do like that case you made on Hal, yes.
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Oct 20, 2017 23:29
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gif Probst posted:i do not think bif is scum because of jam replacin out, but i dont think its a logical leap to suspect it. I do believe it is fair game to speculate about why Jam replaced out, yes. I did not find the mere act of Hal suggesting this to be inherently scummy. However I do think he might be overselling it a bit.
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Oct 20, 2017 23:33
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gif Probst posted:you cant just walk into the ocean to yell at sea life doin sea creature stuff and not expect to have ypur mouth filled with crabs I love being a crab
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Oct 20, 2017 23:36
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apostateCourier posted:Addendum to my thoughts on this post: Because it would just be silly to apologize for "demoting" him from towniest town to second towniest town if he is actually scum
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Oct 20, 2017 23:54
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Hm ok, I was wondering what sort of extraction plan you'd have here if you were scum, and "just lie low till you find someone else to vote" would've felt a lot safer imo, I can buy this as legit engagement to work through the gutfeels Still watching you but for now, I too shall ##unvote Hal what's up, tell me about these games where Jam's been scum
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Oct 21, 2017 00:00
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gif Probst posted:when i said to sit down i meant on the toilet because it is a more appropriate venue for you to dispense your bullshit Hmmm see this is why I had to be careful about you! Please elaborate on which points you think are bullshit
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Oct 21, 2017 02:12
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gif Probst posted:it is me, i am being a poo poo his points are valid despite being a geriatric Ok I was getting worried there
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Oct 21, 2017 02:17
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Hal Incandenza posted:I am not doing your busy work for you. Lol ok ##vote Hal
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Oct 21, 2017 02:18
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Reached too far dude, if youd just kept up playing it cool like usual I could have totally bought that Asiina was just misguided in her efforts to find something fishy on D1
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Oct 21, 2017 02:20
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Hal Incandenza posted:Lots of discrediting people and town calls but no substance whatsoever I am savoring this sentence and all the contradictory things it implies in such a small space. It is a flaky, multi-layered baklava of a post, full of nuts
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Oct 21, 2017 02:44
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Infinitum posted:Bif bif Cause after having a go at them, AC feels more like they were genuinely trying and just got a false positive on me. Hal's just fulla crap.
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Oct 21, 2017 03:16
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TMMadman posted:Some thoughts about the Bif/aC thing. aC does come off as awkward and a little bit scummy, but Bif also comes off as a bit scummy too due to some of the aggressiveness Lol I wish MT was in this game
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Oct 21, 2017 03:35
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Hal's explanations seem rational Cross this town read off the imaginary tally you're keeping for me, Hal
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Oct 21, 2017 03:45
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TMMadman posted:Bif also comes off as a bit scummy too due to some of the aggressiveness. Sorry I just gotta quote this again
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Oct 21, 2017 03:47
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If anyone thinks the case on Hal isn't good enough yet, please look back through my post history to try and work out where it's "full of town reads" like Hal claims. (Like did he just skim through and count even the "if town" jokepost about Probst? Lol) I just can't read him as putting any genuine effort or belief into that case. Also, who am I discrediting, and how? Does he mean AC, who I've backed off of once she appeared to immediately own a genuine misunderstanding once she actually understood it? I got to give Hal credit for creativity, though. Guess he knows he's not ever gonna out-argue me about any of my actual content so he tried to bypass that entirely, by arguing I was already scummy just by the nature of who I was replacing. Too bad that didn't catch on fast enough though, now he's got to move on to blindly asserting how he's got all these better reasons now.
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Oct 21, 2017 07:12
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Maybe he counted the couple of posts where I said I liked Asiina and Grandi trying to get things started by casing Hal. That could count as a town read if you really totally stretch it, right? Funny though how pointing that out is like the exact opposite of "discrediting" someone, I love how he just gives this vague summary that means I'm damned if I do criticise anybody ever but also if I don't, and instead say anything nice and good.
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Oct 21, 2017 07:18
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Hal Incandenza posted:Guess what bif when I said that in that post originally it was much earlier in the game and I feel like my interpretation of your posts until that point was perfectly valid. uhhhh No it wasn't that much earlier, what all has happened since then quote:It’s also nonsense that it’s contradictory to say your posts have town calls and also work to discredit people. In what world are those mutually exclusive? It’s not like I’m saying the same post is both things. There is no dichotomy that says if this person is making town reads they cannot in other posts be discrediting people. Like how can you even claim that. I'm talking about the overall summary, like I just mentioned in my last posts. You can't even bring yourself to quote any specific examples, you're just making this blanket statement that my posts are "full of" these things that conveniently bracket the whole range of all known Mafia opinions once you decide to frame it that way. Say anything negative or critical? Discrediting. Say anything positive, or hell, even just saying hello to another player and joking about how you're townier than them? Town read, apparently. quote:I voted you originally on a gut feel on Jam but the way you cannot handle the fact that you got a few votes on early D1 and now cannot do anything but insult me with your word vomit is just making me dig in harder Lol you think this is bad, this is why I keep catching you scums, even when I go to the effort of trying to be whimsical and flowery with baklava metaphors instead of just cursing you out or something you just can't resist running for the same tired old play of "oh no look at Bif being so meeeeean and not making sense with the big wall of posts" this is nothing dude Hal Incandenza posted:Bif, I’ll gladly vote myself out if you can provide an example of any game EVER was I was scum and my D1 play was to make an unpopular case and then get into a long and vocal argument about it drawing attention to myself. Surely you can do that right? Nope cause you lurk a lot, congrats on working to change that this game, sorry you don't got the hang of it yet
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Oct 21, 2017 19:07
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Yeah. No kidding. I am getting really drat sick of being told that calling scums scummy is apparently ruining the game for everyone. Especially from someone who throws out "Donald Trump of Mafia" while trying to play it like I'm the one being more insulting. Not much more to say here at least.
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Oct 21, 2017 19:51
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well I didn’t mean you were like evil like Donald Trump just that your posting often comes off like a personal attack when all I’m doing is just offering opinions on how I see your posting. I know, right? Forget the "evil" bit, trash talk is an art form and here you go comparing my work to some rear end in a top hat who just keeps retweeting "FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS, SAD!" that's seriously the lowest thing I think anyone's ever said to me in this lying game for liars.
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Oct 21, 2017 20:11
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Ugggggh see that just makes it even more awkward it's more fun to at least keep rageposting or something gently caress let's just pretend this page never happened Except for the bit where AC voted you haha
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Oct 21, 2017 20:18
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Asiina posted:I no longer think Hal is a scum. Hey for real, you saw how fast I did an about face on AC? That's what happens when I actually see any evidence I'm mistaken, or that someone is actually engaging in good faith with me and making an effort instead of refusing to read and just blowing me off. If you can read over my post history now while it's still barely over 1 page and honestly see Hal's point about my posts in this game having "no substance" because theyre "full of discrediting people and town reads" and still say that's a genuine case, or if you can buy his story that it was at least true when he first made that post which has suddenly become ages and ages ago on the game, well, I can't say I think you're scum with him so maybe if you do a good enough job selling Hal's pure innocence here I'll start thinking it's you instead.
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Oct 21, 2017 21:07
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