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graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

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Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

that looks nice, bookmarked ty

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


ios devices have standard usb-c but there is no low-level access to the interface unless you have mfi - meaning you can't write a driver

if you don't have mfi your 2 options for using usb-c are for your device to act as a ethernet over usb adapter (generally good enough for most cases) or mass storage device.

you cannot make use of the simple ftdi chips for serial over usb which is really annoying and usually means you need a full blown linux in your device instead of a cheap microcontroller

source: the company i work for has spent 2 years trying to find a way around this

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Beeftweeter posted:

i'm assuming it's the same as ipad. pretty much anything i've plugged into it worked, including a headphone amp/dac and several mirrorless cams

e: worth noting a lot of that poo poo worked with the old ipad usb 3 lightning camera connection kit on iphone too

it Just Works :smuggo:

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]
we charge all our poo poo (with cables) in a closet outside the bedoom. two benefits:

-invisible, who cares how it looks
-keeps tablets and phones out of the bedroom, as god intended

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

go play outside Skyler posted:

ios devices have standard usb-c but there is no low-level access to the interface unless you have mfi - meaning you can't write a driver

if you don't have mfi your 2 options for using usb-c are for your device to act as a ethernet over usb adapter (generally good enough for most cases) or mass storage device.

you cannot make use of the simple ftdi chips for serial over usb which is really annoying and usually means you need a full blown linux in your device instead of a cheap microcontroller

source: the company i work for has spent 2 years trying to find a way around this

all of the usb generic class devices (not just mass storage) i've tried worked though. you're not supposed to need drivers for those anyway

e: and that just reminded me that mass storage worked with the files app too, provided it was formatted with something ios supports (hfs, apfs, exfat, ntfs read-only) of course

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Sep 17, 2023

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


Beeftweeter posted:

all of the usb generic class devices (not just mass storage) i've tried worked though. you're not supposed to need drivers for those anyway

e: and that just reminded me that mass storage worked with the files app too, provided it was formatted with something ios supports (hfs, apfs, exfat, ntfs read-only) of course

yeah i should've mentionned in my post that this applies to devices you want to interact with in an app or otherwise.

ios supports and has drivers for a lot of generic devices like human interface devices, audio adapters, midi devices, etc.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

does anyone know of a usb hub with one pd in and one additional usb c?

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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qirex posted:

does anyone know of a usb hub with one pd in and one additional usb c?

on amazon there's lots of cheap ones from stupidly named ODMs and i have a couple of those, i'm sure you'll notice that they all have very similar designs too. if you're interested i can dig up the specific ones i have, but i haven't noticed a difference between them really and i'm pretty sure they're not all the same "brand" (but really, likely the same ODM). they all work and were less than $50

incidentally the only one i've found that doesn't work with my ipad is a dell one thats shaped like and is about the size of a hockey puck. real bad hub, on the poo poo it actually does work with it's only usb 2.0, so beware of that

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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installed ios 17 on my se3 and uhh it seems way faster? like noticeably? weird but good

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



it took way too long to install on my old apple tv 4 hd but it, too, seems to be more responsive. i'm frankly not sure how to feel because i'm going to grab a new one this week. the tweaks to the ui and menus are nice, too, and the work there probably helped the ui performance on this old model

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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yeah i didn't time it or anything but it took probably over an hour to install on the se3. it seems pretty good though, it's not too different from 16 except feeling quite a bit faster

Casual Encountess
Dec 14, 2005

"You can see how they go from being so sweet to tearing your face off,
just like that,
and it's amazing to have that range."


Thunderdome Exclusive

timb release the nighstand mode

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

qirex posted:

does anyone know of a usb hub with one pd in and one additional usb c?
a lot of the anker dongle style one have this. anker poo poo is good

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
every one of the watch 9 configurations I have tried (sizes, case materials, bands) in the Apple Store app show as unavailable and unable to add to bag, hmm

patch: was phone posting while feeding an infant, all of the promo materials say order starting 2023-09-15, available 2023-09-22, i couldnt find any watch configuration i could actually order

Lysidas fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Sep 18, 2023

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts
i always forget iphones are picky about mounting through usb hubs, make sure to take time now to back up your stuff before 17 drops later

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

graph posted:

i always forget iphones are picky about mounting through usb hubs, make sure to take time now to back up your stuff before 17 drops later

I never backup my phone before updating ios because it's all backed up in icloud anyways.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face
put 17 on my ipad air 5th gen. update process was much much faster and it also seems snappier

not much different again of course, but i'm noticing pop-up spelling suggestions and safari's favorites bar has favicons now. i'm not sure if i like that lol, i got used to them not being there

so far a lot of the keyboard lag seems gone too? my snap take is that its a good os update

e: jeez this seems really fast. forums pages are snappy as poo poo

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Sep 18, 2023

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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akadajet posted:

I never backup my phone before updating ios because it's all backed up in icloud anyways.

yeah

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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lol interesting bug when switching orientation



never seen that happen before

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
how are you installing 17 to your iPad? Are you just opting into betas? iOS 17 is the only one out right now right?

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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Hed posted:

how are you installing 17 to your iPad? Are you just opting into betas? iOS 17 is the only one out right now right?

i had an option between public and developer betas and selected the developer beta for installation. i'm pretty sure that build (21A329) is the same one that'll get pushed eventually today. i mean, even if it's not, updating to whatever that is shouldn't be hard, you can opt-out of beta updates right after install

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

retail ipados is out, I'm installing it now

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

Beeftweeter posted:

i had an option between public and developer betas and selected the developer beta for installation. i'm pretty sure that build (21A329) is the same one that'll get pushed eventually today. i mean, even if it's not, updating to whatever that is shouldn't be hard, you can opt-out of beta updates right after install

Got it, thanks. I'm still 2old2slow when it comes to the changes they've done in pushing updates.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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qirex posted:

retail ipados is out, I'm installing it now

when it's done can you post what the build number is? curious if i'm right on that

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Iím a little worried about putting iPados 17 on my beloved iPad Pro 2017 since 16 ran like dog poo poo for a while but it sounds like 17 is okay?

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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i've only been using it for about two hours on my ipad (and a day on my phone), despite my devices being a little newer it seems good to me

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

Beeftweeter posted:

when it's done can you post what the build number is? curious if i'm right on that

Mine is iPadOS 17.0 (21A329) on my M1 iPad Pro

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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excellent thank you

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


Beeftweeter posted:

lol interesting bug when switching orientation



never seen that happen before

literally every time there's an ios update they break orientation change somehow and i end up putting my phone in weird rear end situations like your screenshot.

it's insane how a company with that many resources can have things like this go to prod without anyone noticing

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011
my shits been stuck on preparing update for like 2+ hours at this point.... i just want new watchos... idgaf about ios

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

A 'what' case, please..?



ah of course



https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005962760452.html

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Trypophobia Case

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

so is there absolutely 0% way to install the new timbos on an unsupported ipad (1st gen ipad pro)

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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stinky case

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

so is there absolutely 0% way to install the new timbos on an unsupported ipad (1st gen ipad pro)

i don't think there is

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

a followup question to that is how much I should care. i dont really care about new features, i do care about security paranoia.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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there's really not much new i've noticed so far and afaik ios 16 will still get some security updates. when there's a really major one it definitely will anyway, sometimes those go a few versions back even

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

canít wait to install iOS 17 that will finally let me tell my phone that my wife is not actually stalking me with the airtag on the car key, and it doesnít need to remind me again in 24 hours. what a half baked product lol

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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Jenny Agutter posted:

canít wait to install iOS 17 that will finally let me tell my phone that my wife is not actually stalking me with the airtag on the car key, and it doesnít need to remind me again in 24 hours. what a half baked product lol

oh my god i am definitely doing this the next time i get one of those stupid alerts about the one in the car lol

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