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Mr. Nice! posted:this is what it does if you try to boot from usb. I used to have a 2011 iMac with a similar problem. my trying to remember is it was something with the efi. I think I installed refit or whatever it was called back in the day and it worked. it’s probably easier just to buy a dvd and burn it though don’t 2010 have an internal drive?
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Vomik posted:I used to have a 2011 iMac with a similar problem. my trying to remember is it was something with the efi. I think I installed refit or whatever it was called back in the day and it worked. it’s probably easier just to buy a dvd and burn it though don’t 2010 have an internal drive? yeah i’ve got access to a dvd today, but didn’t have one yesterday.
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looks like the windows bootloader doesnt know how to talk to the usb contorller to find the install media, to which the only solution would seem to be "dont do that", i.e. use a dvd
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Macs os: So good everyone uses Boot Camp or virtualization software to run Windows instead
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Lambert posted:Macs: So good everyone uses Boot Camp or virtualization software to run Windows on them. nah my work imac runs kubuntu 18.04
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Lysidas posted:nah my work imac runs kubuntu 18.04 Acceptable.
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pram posted:youre holding it wrong The one universal Apple troubleshooting tip
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Mr. Nice! posted:did you boot to a windows install usb? not talking a mac or posix bootable usb - specifically a windows installer. if so, how? because i could not find a solution. i booted a linux install image, as is right and proper i think your problem here is windows
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i booted a linux install image, as is right and proper my statement from the beginning was that this year model mbp cannot boot from usb to install windows. it has always been able to boot from anything else via usb, but not to install windows.
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https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1140775061294657538 congratulations to everyone in cupertino
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Pinterest Mom posted:https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1140775061294657538 the itunes codebase lives on in xcode 
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mykel and carli is a good old weezer b-side
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Lambert posted:i construct my internet identity around a tom clancy videogame
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some good weezer b-sides there
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five stars for only in dreams, zero stars for my name is Jonas or buddy holly. loving Marco
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weezer stinks
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Mr. Nice! posted:my statement from the beginning was that this year model mbp cannot boot from usb to install windows. it has always been able to boot from anything else via usb, but not to install windows. install linux; problem solved
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he already has a Linux installed. that's the problem.
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i start grad school next week, and need a windows laptop for windows only excel features. i'm not installing windows because i want it, but loving  at excel for mac. a lunix presents the same issues as osx in this case, in that i'd have to run excel in a virtual machine to do 90% of what i'm going to do for the next 10 months.
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Macs are great, as long as you don't need to do anything productive. Great for blogging, really.
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Mr. Nice! posted:i start grad school next week, and need a windows laptop for windows only excel features. i'm not installing windows because i want it, but loving you could use bootcamp, that way you won't have to buy a lovely laptop
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Boiled Water posted:you could use bootcamp, that way you won't have to buy a lovely laptop But he already owns a mac??
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Boiled Water posted:you could use bootcamp, that way you won't have to buy a lovely laptop i’m attempting to use bootcamp on my 2010 mbp. i have to borrow windows 7 install media from a friend because the mbps with the optical drive cannot install windows from usb.
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welp i thought that was another goon goonspeed
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The Management posted:five stars for only in dreams, zero stars for my name is Jonas or buddy holly. loving Marco are you really surprised a phish fan has bad music taste?
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Just buy a Parallels license, it’s a much nicer experience than natively booting Windows on a Mac (at least for productivity)
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comedy option: Windows vm in a cloud service to run excel. slightly less comedic option: excel in a browser
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Mr. Nice! posted:i start grad school next week, and need a windows laptop for windows only excel features. i'm not installing windows because i want it, but loving new xps 15s come out next week (hopefully) and you can probably still find last years xps13 and 15 on sale
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Mr. Nice! posted:i’m attempting to use bootcamp on my 2010 mbp. i have to borrow windows 7 install media from a friend because the mbps with the optical drive cannot install windows from usb. i'm p. sure they can and what's happening is related to whether you have efi bootable usb media or not. the dvd can boot both legacy and efi and so this doesn't come up, but with usb you can only have legacy or efi bootable. efi bootable will boot natively (assuming your mac has 64-bit efi), but bootcamp requires legacy to boot because it's a bootloader shim, so you have to make the install media in a specific way for it to work. unless you go looking for it you will not know this and without a pc you may or may not be able to make the correct partition structure.
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also worth noting that while it's "possible" to install windows natively, without bootcamp, that may or may not result in a functional install because apple has a bunch of special snowflake versions of things that windows will repeatedly try to install generic drivers for, which will not work.
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Mr. Nice! posted:i’m attempting to use bootcamp on my 2010 mbp. i have to borrow windows 7 install media from a friend because the mbps with the optical drive cannot install windows from usb. oh, if you're trying to install windows 7 on something that has native usb 3 (not in this particular case) this will also happen, because windows 7 is loving ancient and you have to slipstream usb 3 drivers into the install environment for it to know how to use a usb 3 controller
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infernal machines posted:also worth noting that while it's "possible" to install windows natively, without bootcamp, that may or may not result in a functional install because apple has a bunch of special snowflake versions of things that windows will repeatedly try to install generic drivers for, which will not work. you can get the boot camp drivers and install them still without doing the boot camp process
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you can, and windows will happily replace them with broken versions in some cases because the generic drivers are newer. also, when the broken device is your video driver it's a bit of a pain e.g. 2013 mba will stop displaying video 5/6th of the way through the install process if it can connect to the internet, because that's when windows replaces the working generic vga driver with the whql'd amd driver that doesn't work. assuming you avoid that it will happen after the first time you reboot, after you've connected to the internet, unless you completely nuke windows update infernal machines fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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my nine year old computer can't install a ten year old operating system that doesn't even properly support usb, clearly the company that designed the laptop is at fault
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Mr. Nice! posted:i start grad school next week, and need a windows laptop for windows only excel features. i'm not installing windows because i want it, but loving you’re going to dual boot for excel? install in a VM.
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The Management posted:you’re going to dual boot for excel? install in a VM. sounds more like the point is to single-boot windows since it has the tools he actually needs not necessarily wise still since bootcamp is sort of crappy, but doing effectively all your work in a vm is a pretty lovely existence too.
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qirex posted:my nine year old computer can't install a ten year old operating system that doesn't even properly support usb, clearly the company that designed the laptop is at fault Thinking the same thing
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Mr. Nice! posted:i start grad school next week, and need a windows laptop for windows only excel features. i'm not installing windows because i want it, but loving What inspired you to go to grad school for Excel
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qirex posted:my nine year old computer can't install a ten year old operating system that doesn't even properly support usb, clearly the company that designed the laptop is at fault apple should participate in the windows hardware compatibility program if they want to advertise that their devices can run windows
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its hosed up but i just checked their site and they do
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