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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

It happens if you regularly use your phone while it's plugged in, so you're constantly bending and folding the cable underneath the device

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

PCjr sidecar posted:

awful.app does a real bad job with yospos house style

i have always interpreted yospos house style as deliberate minimal effort

so if your phone automatically corrects things and adds punctuation and capitalization, proper form is to leave it as-is

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

So yeah uh does this mean

1) all macs will now be ARM
2) apple will start manufacturing x86 chips
3) they invent their own architecture?

Because I'm not sure which of those three is more hilarious

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

C.H.O.M.E. posted:

lmao windows.

windows 10 is Real Good and shaggar was right that people doing Actual Work do it from windows.

come and watch some of my students try to use SolidWorks on a macbook, with no physical escape key or forward-delete key, through parallels, with the trackpad that doesn't middle-click and which scrolls in a hosed up manner, and see how long you last

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

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tbf it is a very dated sort of typography, like having an iphone 8 //NO FEAR// edition

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

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Soricidus posted:

nah we just want apple to make another good phone that normal people can conveniently use one handed

Sony Xperia Compact series

Remember, stebe wanted the Mac OS to run on Sony hardware

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

My Xperia z5c has a 4.6 inch 720p screen and is only marginally larger than an iPhone 4. I dunno about the new models but if the smallest one now is 5 inches that's weak.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Apple computers have never been very popular in Canada bc they always jack their prices up well beyond the exchange rate. Like the dollar would be worth 80 cents but the nominal price would be 50% more.

I don't think anyone I went to school with in Canada had a Mac, and that was a design school

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

yeah i have three or four friends in canada who stuck with their blackberries until the bitter end and still periodically complain that they can't get a phone with a physical keyboard any more

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Asia loving loves gold phones. Americans are just behind the times

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

hobbesmaster posted:

doesn’t it depend on what part it is? are the consumer laptops designed to be as easily repaired as say the latitudes or desktops?

the (consumer) dell laptop i used to have was a chunker but it had everything laid out inside very logically. the ram was behind its own little door on the bottom in fact so you didn't have to remove the whole case to upgrade it.

my current lenovo is pretty good too -- 10 regular screws to remove the bottom shell and you can get to the hard drive, battery, etc. and whatever else.

the screen on my school issued dell precision laptop crapped out once and dell sent a guy in the next day and he replaced the whole panel in 20 minutes in my office. that's the peak of service and repairability right there.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 23, 2018

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

stebe had a lot of unreasonable vendettas

the no-flash-on-apple thing started because adobe changed their primary platform target from mac os to windows sometime in the early 2000s cause literally no one was buying macs so they were making no money focusing their efforts there. so stebe hit the roof and no adobe products demoed in the next macworld keynote and history wrote itself

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

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coke posted:

lol yeah that totally not because flash was terrible, power hungry and insecure

yes, it's good that all those lovely flash based web apps have been replaced by lightweight, secure, languages like javascript

flash was undoubtedly lovely but that wasn't why stebe killed it originally

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

adobe AIR was at least as good as the pile of steaming horseshit that is javascript

infernal machines posted:

protip: folders are not the way files were meant to be interacted with in ios and any method of doing so will be an awful hack

it drives me loving insane that apple has apparently tried to get rid of the folder concept in mac os in favor of some garbage fire pile o' files where you just search for whatever document you need or something

me, attempting to help a student install an arduino library on their macbook: "okay, open your user folder"
every student every time: "i don't know what that is"

i don't even know how to open a finder window that shows the root level of your hard drive any more

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

infernal machines posted:

command-shift-G "/" or just keep hitting command-up until it stops

i did command-shift-g ~ once and the student looked at me like i had just hacked the gibson

here's a big secret: kids these days are just as stupid about computers as kids in any other era. they know how to use snapchat to sext but if there isn't a share button prominently located on screen they can't find a jpg file of the sext they just took. as usual only nerds understand what's going on

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Apr 30, 2018

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

i was once demoing a thing in class and had found a google image that i wanted to use. the hosting website had disabled right clicking so i couldn't download it. it took me about 10 seconds to press F12, locate the image address in the code, open it manually in a new tab, and download that. once again, these "born digital" "always online" "constantly connected" "internet generation" 22-year-old kids acted like i had just exploded out of agent smith's body in the matrix

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Shaggar posted:

yeah children are idiots. that's why they're in class.

my class isn't intended to teach them how a file system works, and neither are any of the other classes because it's assumed that they already know this stuff bc they were REALLY GOOD at computers as a kid (read: i used to play so many old-skool games like Halo 2 on my ancient xbox 360 haha)

we actually do still need an "intro to computers" class but no one would take it because they assume they're all smarter than that

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

and yet off the top of my head i have students who

- don't understand what a zip file is, and can't understand why the library "file" they downloaded doesn't work when dumped in the folder (reading instructions is not students' strong suit tbf)
- or who don't know what a file path is in the first place, and can't navigate to a folder if that's all they're given
- or who can't identify that a file that "just won't open, i don't know" is likely corrupted by looking at the metadata and realizing that their banner-size photoshop document probably should not be 14kB
- or who try to email me twenty ten-megabyte JPEGs and then complain "it just tells me it couldn't send" and are mystified when i point out the line in the delivery failure where it says the size limit. (forget about trying to teach them about resizing and compression)

these are basic computer literacy skills that for whatever reason they aren't picking up on their own

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

infernal machines posted:

see, this is just a failure of software developers to make computers that work

much like how car accidents are the fault of car designers not making better cars

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

spb posted:

it actually would be worseless since the operating system is a pos

the phone wouldn't work, the internet wouldn't work, the gps wouldn't work and the maps would all be inaccurate anyway. you wouldn't be able to show them youtubes or play your itunes music and it would run out of power in 24 hours and you couldn't recharge it.

super valuable

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

those apple wall warts are astonishingly sophisticated. there's a whole switching psu in there. if you can find a/c power, of any description, you might be good to go right there.

i suppose that is true. 110vac is 110vac so you probably could keep it charged.

Shaggar posted:

they'd have to invent 100 years of scientific progress. they wouldn't even be able to comprehend the transistor let alone modern fabs.

i don't think they even had microscopes capable of seeing the transistors on a modern cpu back in 1918. the electron microscope was invented in the 30s. can you build an optical microscope that can see a feature ~20nm across?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Audiophiles won't use anything that you can get at Best Buy. Monster was more about fleecing grandmas when they bought a new tv

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...


buncha my students have the new macbook keyboard and whenever i'm showing them some code or w/e it's all can do to stop myself from commenting on how bad it is

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

watching a student pull out a dongle block the size of a deck of cards so they can plug in an arduino and a USB flash drive while charging the laptop is just :discourse:

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

infernal machines posted:

luv 2 radiate rf through the bottom of my chassis

remember this?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

what the gently caress is this

it's the wifi antenna for a g5 tower because the solid aluminum housing made it impossible for electromagnetic energy to escape

there was a little SMA port or whatever on the back of the case and if you wanted wifi you plugged that thing in

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

exploded mummy posted:

I like the part where they just rolled it into the casino unhindered because the moving blanket read IBM

the easiest way to turn invisible is to wear a reflective vest and hard hat and carry a clipboard

you could be jackhammering into the side of the federal reserve dressed like that and the guards would be like "eh, he's probably supposed to be there"

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

please do not dilute the brand when referring to the Apple® Apple Watch® Edition™ edition.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Last Chance posted:

even your jokes are too verbose and incorrect

are you mad that you wasted your money on an Apple® Apple Watch® Edition™ edition?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

phones should be black or possibly charcoal gray. everything else is trashy. if you want colors get a colored case.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Last Chance posted:

is a better joke than a misplaced microsoft-naming-scheme joke that doesnt really work for apple. they dont litter their poo poo with ® and ™ so it doesn't make sense

mm hmmmm

https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html




someone once posted here "if sagebrush posts something that looks obviously wrong, it's a trap" and i :allears: about that now and again

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Lol at all you plebs who have to carry things in your pockets or purses. Where's your manservant?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

lol if your rear end is so powerless that you can fit anything in your back pockets, let alone one of the enormous phones or costanza wallets that are so popular with you people

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

they aren't real computers so i don't know what you expected

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

vodkat posted:

you ain't wrong, but thats still piddly amounts of money because americans (most of them anyway) are poor as gently caress

the figure i saw was that the annual bonuses paid out on wall street exceed the combined annual income of every minimum-wage worker in america

infernal machines posted:

suppose i didn't expect a $900 ipad pro to be entirely glued together, to the extent that if the home button jams up after a year you have the option of buying another $900 ipad pro to replace it.

now clearly that is because i am an idiot, but still.

if you used tiny screws instead of glue the device would

a) be 0.3mm thicker and 500 milligrams heavier
b) have 1mm-wide screw heads visible in half a dozen locations on the back
c) be repairable by any random guy in a streetside shack

so really they made the only reasonable choice

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

Endless Mike posted:

not really? how often are you pairing with a new bluetooth device or new wifi network? they are big and common, it's true, but they are also largely things you don't do often

I know some people who still don't have a real data plan and are constantly looking for free WiFi networks

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

syscall girl posted:

my 11th grade programming teacher was right about code bloat all those years ago

i hate him being right but ffs you don't have to write 'to the metal' just not like this

i periodically look at some of the new frameworks for desktop apps and try to learn one of them or another but every time i do i get anxious

my day to day programming is all microcontroller stuff and i'm like, masking bits and counting instructions and doing manually timed multitasking

and i get used to how that works and when i move to a big powerful desktop computer it doesn't make me feel like i've got all this extra power. instead i end up thinking, like, i'm just supposed to....trust this api? but what if it's wasting cycles? what if it's not written efficiently? what if i could do better?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

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Doc Block posted:

LOL that they’re trying to backtrack and say it was actually a joke about a $3000 computer only having 16GB RAM max.

swift on security is really bad

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

you can't blame jony for all this stuff. i'm sure the trashcan pro was his design, because it's driven by some sense of pure platonic aesthetic. but the touch bar? jony would make a mac without a keyboard entirely if it was possible to do so (coming july 2020). the touch bar is a marketing bullshit that came from timb because timb loves gimmicks and copying other shittier companies.

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Well, actually...

i would say that the thinner/lighter fetish is not entirely jony's fault. he's a talented industrial designer and i am sure he recognizes that making an unreliable lovely keyboard for the sake of saving an unnoticeable half millimeter is not good human interface design. remember when apple made those ads showing how the human thumb can sweep across the entirety of a 4" screen? they know these concepts -- they're just choosing not to apply them. why?

well, "this much thinner than last year's model" and especially "this much thinner than competitors" are absolutely the kind of functionally meaningless metric that marketing loves to push on. i bet that's where that particular commandment is coming from -- not the design department.

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