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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Boiled Water posted:

how many laptops in the form factor macs books pro occupy can you actually get 32gb of ram?

dell will give you 64G of RAM in the macbook pro form factor

lenovo can only fit 32

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Grassy Knowles posted:

i work with three people still running ios 9 on 6S series devices.

the other devices im aware of are a blackberry passport and some sony androids.

these are all it professionals

doesnt ios 9 have unpatched vulnerabilities by now

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i thought no one would buy the apple watch because it was terribly ugly, but they did

airpods look like tampons poking out of your ears but hey apparently the market will tolerate any amount of stupid

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

The Management posted:

I love comments like this. if nerds think it’s bad and dumb then it’s a sure sign Apple has a hit on their hands.

the iwatch seems great aside from being ugly. same with airpods.

i am astonished people are willing to look so bad in public.

especially in the watch case. watches are primarily articles of jewelry. they are meant to communicate wealth and taste. the apple watch is both inexpensive and ugly, so it ain't gonna get either message across.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Stymie posted:

i've seen no proof that people are buying iwatches either, nor has apple provided any

it's true that apple has not been forthcoming with sales figures, but come on, look around

the apple watch is inescapable in my neck of the woods

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Rex-Goliath posted:

yeah rip. posting apple takes on twitter now

i would have hoped a departure from yospos would heal him and leave him free of his apple-related afflictions

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Face ID loving sucks about as much as I expected it to, Touch ID was much superior for me. for starters, it’s slower, and the whole “have to look at it for security purposes” and the myriad of situations where you can just unlock without having to face your phone... and when it doesn’t work it’s twice as annoying because you have to swipe up, I don’t know.
Face ID sucks a lot right now, but hopefully it will get faster next version. it’s just too slow. been training it to recognize my face in more angles but ehh still inferior

maybe your visage is so inhuman that face id cannot reckon with the possibility that the undulating, cratered terrain presented to the camera could be the depth map of a human face

i also stumped for the iphone x, expecting face id to kinda suck

it does not suck at all. it is much faster than touchid was on a 5s. it automatically unlocks my phone just from my having moved the phone into position, seamlessly, like nothing happened.

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

the notch is not that annoying after a while but it’s still fuxking dumb, and there’s no battery percentage indicator

this threw me for a loop at first. the percentage is buried in the swipe-down dialogue where you set screen brightness / rotation lock

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

akadajet posted:

lol I updated my phone and it was aggressively nagging me to set up apple pay. took me a few seconds to figure out how to remove the red dot from the control panel that was just trying to get me to do it.

apple pay is a failure and they should just give it up.

apple pay works fine and has almost universal adoption. why would they give up on the most successful phone payment system outside of africa/scandinavia?

of all the weird things to hate on apple about : broken software, lousy security record, lovely financial practices. it's a target rich environment. picking on the one thing that isn't consumer hostile and actually works is... odd.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i started using apple pay because cabs take it, and its impossible to see the credit card slot in the darkness of a taxi's back seat.

feels good not fumbling around to jam a tiny card into a impossible to find slot. this is not a metaphor for sex.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

cinci zoo sniper posted:

im the whooshing assumption that apple pay is available in latvia, country where you can not legally create a sony playstation network account

how loving rich are you, by latvian standards

apple pay is a pretty uhhhh 1st world problem

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

i am very amused by these real estate listings

apparently you need a passable grasp of three languages to shop for a high-end apartment in riga

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Plorkyeran posted:

when i was in riga a few years ago i was pretty surprised at how not-cheap everything was. given the pay disparity between what i was making and what the coworkers i was visiting were making i was expecting a similar different in CoL, but it didn't actually seem to even be much cheaper to live there.

moscow is one of the most expensive cities on earth

cinci zoo sniper posted:

its not cheap. [...]

hence everyone being extremely thrifty, and corruption and financial fraud of all kinds being prevalent.

sounds like the post-soviet world in a nutshell

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

ted hitler posted:

iOS has over 50% market share in Sweden.

Apple pay now works with Nordea, one of the big banks in Sweden. It also works with MasterCards offered by ST1, a gas station chain. Anyone can get a ST1 MasterCard that has apple pay support now. Works at all stores with contactless payment support which is most stores.

What verb did the banks in Sweden decide to use for paying with a contactless card?

Blip or "blippa"
verb
6. give (someone) money using wireless technology.

Blip bloop bloop blip.

you have me backwards

I meant East Africa and Scandinavia had popular pay-by-phone mechanisms before Apple Pay, so Apple Pay wasn’t the first success in some countries

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Soricidus posted:

i mean iot is bad and dumb, sure, but it doesn't feel like there are going to be that many criminals out there who are smart enough to find homekit 0-days but would be stumped by a mechanical lock

every mechanical lock is a little different

every homekit is exactly the same.

added bonus: you can probably find the devices via wifi, just driving by

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

infernal machines posted:

you needed them on the iphone too, that didn't slow them down any

they'll just add another notch

the notch is surprisingly unobtrusive

the whole iphone x package works better than one would expect

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i like to jump on apple's dumb design decisions as much as the next guy, but the top processor option for an imac pro is 140W TDP.

the fan/vent combination needs to cool the equivalent of two lightbulbs. i think it will be ok.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

disturbingly it is a perfectly legit hypothesis that largely all software now leaks a fair bit of memory

the kernel pager is now essentially a global garbage collector, flushing unused pages to disk

everything old is new again

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Endless Mike posted:

the venn diagram of countries with an abundance people wealthy enough for a $1000 phone where facial coverings are common is pretty much saudi arabia, and they just let women drive cars, so i'd be pretty surprised if many are "allowed" to have cell phones outside their homes. most muslim countries don't require more than a hijab (or similar), which face id will work fine with.

it's not even that many people in saudi arabia

90%+ of the population lives in desperate poverty

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
tl;dr: the market for faceID for burqas is approximately $0

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
great moments in racial sensitivity

Face ID flop: Chinese colleagues can both authenticate iPhone X

http://pocketnow.com/2017/12/15/face-id-flop-chinese-colleagues-can-both-authenticate-iphone-x

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i once worked on a tool that relied on VBA (not vb6!) to query an oracle DB and output word documents

i was tasked with porting it to mysql. which meant "optimizing" all of the oracle queries to fit inside 256 characters, the maximum string length you could pass into VBA from outside.

oracle managed this by having a materialized view specially created for the tool. on mysql... well... i did a lot of "select i1,i2 from t1,t2"

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

ComradeCosmobot posted:

(because you OBVIOUSLY intend to use autocomplete=“off” to thwart password managers, and not because, say, the form is a password reset or for some other legitimate purpose)

autocomplete=off is the 21st century equivalent of the blink tag, and browsers are right to ignore it

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

The Management posted:

2) don’t manage the battery and let the device brown out when power consumption spikes, have it drain rapidly, and die mysteriously at some percentage greater than zero. everyone complains about how iPhones are unreliable, can’t hold a charge, randomly die.

this was life with my iphone 6 for over a year

they "fixed" the os to make the phone slower and the battery still poo poo the bed completely at the two year mark, on the dot

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Chris Knight posted:

didn't paul graham make all his money using lisp to make shopping cart software that he eventually sold to yahoo?

yep

and they promptly re-wrote the package in something un-lispy

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Matt Zerella posted:

29$ is not bad at all for an official battery replacement.

unless the phones are defective and nearly all of them will require premature replacement

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

i discovered face id doesn't work when i am smoking

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

rjmccall posted:

i have been informed by management that the reason our department doesn’t do special employee rewards like ski trips or whatever is that they’d rather dedicate that money to bonus pools

i’m pretty ok with that

depends what my bonus looks like!






i'm kidding, if i ever receive less than 100% of bonus target i won't let the door hit my rear end on the way out

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

ComradeCosmobot posted:

also if you arent an adventurous eater i could see where it wouldn’t impress

years ago, as an apple contractor, an employee asked me, being from the midwest, if we have "kor-ee-ann food" where i'm from

just sayin

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
corporate cafeterias come in two flavors

aramark
not aramark

if you are in the latter category, you are doing pretty good

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

...yes

also, at least at the time, cupertino's "best" korean restaurant was, shall we say, lacking in authenticity. at least relative to the best of mid-size cities in the midwest!

p.s. the "bay area" sucks poo poo. san francisco cannot redeem the shittiness of its suburbs. just while we're playing the regions game.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
apple started trying to kill macos in 1988. not 98. eighty-eight.

they spent a long, long time failing.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

FMguru posted:

when people talk about palm loving itself to death theyre talking about how it managed to fumble away its almost unimaginable lead in the smartphone race by doing things like splitting itself into two companies (hardware and software), which led to huge delays internally (as the corp reorganzied itself), huge brand confusion, and a collapse in their reputation for quality (shipping palm treo phones running winmo5 will do that). eventually they gave up and merged the two companies again (creating delays and further muddling the brand)

palm fumbled their os development very badly. the first generation OS had no multitasking or protected memory and was just a loving disaster for 3rd party app authors to use. they worked on a next-generation OS with a real kernel, but couldn't ship working code that would run at a reasonable speed. th writing was on the wall: palmOS in its current state was no longer competitive, but palmOS next generation was never going to ship.

that's how palm/handspring ended up shipping winmo phones: winmo existed and could be shipped. palmOS "cobalt" didn't exist and could not be shipped.

they ended up splitting the hardware and software divisions because the hardware division had a future, and the software division very plainly didn't.

then some idiot decided to use the hardware division to rescue the software division or something, and un-did the only sane thing done in palm's corporate history.

FMguru posted:

i will give them credit for realizing that the iphone was a game changer and they needed to radically redo their entire product line to meet it, which was unlike microsoft (ballmer openly laughed at it) or rim (thought it was a gyspy illusion, fought back by shipping the storm), and webos is still being borrowed from for its ui. too bad they were out of money and time and market power to make ir successful (those weird-rear end ads didnt help either)

they didn't really "realize" anything, so much as they no longer controlled the palm software assets. palmOS "cobalt" and "garnet" and all the related trademarks had been sold to corporate vultures years earlier.

the latter-day palm that made WebOS was essentially a descendant of the hardware division. they had to make WebOS from scratch because they no longer owned any of the prior IP!

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
these guys are the vultures who ended up with the palmos assets

https://gl.access-company.com/

it appears that they wrote the original browser for palmos, and now they are still selling the browser as a smart tv component long after the death of palmos. kinda funny that the browser would outlive all of its underlying platforms!

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Agile Vector posted:

mostly useless but nice to put on a counter? yeah


the best thing aramark did was lease spots in our cafeteria to local restaurants, so we had the best pizza, sushi, etc.

until it was renewal time and some shittier options lowballed to get in the door and now i hear its like several aramarks :rolleyes:

the saddest thing is pizza and sushi made by aramark

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i once ate in an aramark-operated cafeteria that had a full size brick pizza oven, proudly cranking away at 1500F

they cleaned it with a plastic-bristled push broom. like you use on the floor. while hot. it was not reassuring to see this done in front of me.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

eschaton posted:

it wasn’t actually a disaster, it was actually really good

but some people think checklist items are more important than either end user usability or developer APIs

your phone would routinely crash if you installed third party applications.

receiving a phone call while using the web browser was a pretty good chance at an unexpected reboot.

some of these checklist items really matter

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

this plus not understanding that revising the stuff into something workable was entirely doable, especially having seen win3 into win95, and then win95 into consumer nt, done. i really think that palm was sunk by listening to engineers going on about clean slates, where a small amount of distaste (preserving limitations apps expected) but very minor effort could have revised the thing into legit dominance

this is what they attempted with palmOS "cobalt." as with the win16 => win32 transition, each old-school palmOS application would run in its own process with its own copy of the old OS global state, more or less.

palm had a strategy, and it was sound, but they fumbled the execution very badly.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
nothing was badly fumbled in the webos effort. it just didn't work for exogenous reasons

best laid plans etc

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Elder Postsman posted:

the notch!

mostly i'm angry about no touch id, and all the goofy gestures they have to account for not having a home button.

face id works a lot better than you would think

the gestures are not actually noticable when you're using it

graph posted:

its kinda heavy and still slippery like everything after the 6

yeah this is the actual problem with the X

it is like a brick in your pocket, and good luck holding onto one without a knob stuck to the back

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Endless Mike posted:

regular imacs you can just order with a vesa mount instead of a stand, but i guess if you're connecting it to a stand after the fact, you're sol. maybe the next revision will do what the pro does

the problem is that you have to know in advance precisely how many imacs will be on stands versus not. you end up with two pools of inventory. uncool for institutional buyers. ostensibly uncool for apple.

you would think they would just have a single sku and a conversion kit.

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