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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


infernal machines posted:

they're the best computer microsoft makes.

they're fine Ö hot garbage

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


i got a samsung galaxy chomebook pro or whatever the gently caress its called (mine's silver but they're commonly orange)

honestly i got it because it was $480ish down from nearly $2k and it has a 13" 4k OLED, but like a week afterwards the trackpad started going loving bonkers and i couldn't figure out why

so i finally cracked it open the other day and welp, turns out it was shorting itself after it would heat up because some conductive tape got unstuck. gj samsung

now i know why it was so cheap. some more tape fixed that and it's okay for now i guess

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Agile Vector posted:

i got a samsung chromebook 3 refurb to poke at chrome os years ago and the trackpad, despite being small and plastic, was surprisingly okay

instead of a sloppy taping, the case had a misaligned panel that caused a hairline crack to form, so rest assured they found some build quality corner to cut back then

yeah my wife has a samsung chromebook v2 (...something) and it's plasticky as hell but actually not awful, 11" 1920x1200 owns

so that gave me a bit of confidence to buy this thing, and really it's not that bad as a dumb linux terminal when everything works (and the oled is great), which is why i'd say if it's on sale go for it but otherwise stay the gently caress away

one thing that really pisses me off is that i got one of samsung's weird rear end UFS cards to dual boot off of and literally the option just does nothing. the other chomebook boots off of microsds just fine, idgi

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Carthag Tuek posted:

didn't sarnsung make a tablet where the as card port wasn't functional and the promised to fix it and never did

probably? samsung makes a ton of crap and that sounds like the experience i so yearn for

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


seriously what is with this color scheme



fiesta red indeed

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


LanceHunter posted:

One of the biggest sources of frustration in my otherwise-excellent wfh triple-monitor setup (two external 23" monitors and my Macbook's screen) is that MacOS refuses to allow you to lock the dock to a single screen. So, when I've got any window going the full length of either of my external monitors, and I let my mouse hover towards the bottom of one of those monitors for even a second, MacOS decides "hey! this is the monitor that needs to have the dock!!!" So the dock pops up and immediately covers the last thing I was looking at in my terminal or whatever. Then, when I move the mouse towards the bottom of my Macbook's screen to try and make the dock goes back there, it sometimes takes two or three attempts.

Apparently other people feel the same way, too, and there are a number of articles raking in clicks for the search term "how to keep mac dock on one one screen". Of course, none of them have solutions except for "turn off spaces on each monitor", which is the worst possible solution.

dont rotate it like that.

-Steve

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Smythe posted:

I see those colorful Samsungs all over. they look pretty cool imo. The pen thing works good too. hosed up

the pen is good. chili burp red is not

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


rotor posted:

its actually good imo. I am fuckin tired as poo poo of silver and shades of grey.

good news johnny just got a shiny gold macbook!

Sent from my identically spec'd iPad Air

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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rotor posted:

idk gold doesnt strike me as great either but at least its not silver or grey

ipad status: still blue and cool as gently caress :coal:

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Perplx posted:

23" was a big monitor is 2005, I consider 27" the minimum now

lol if you aren't literally ruining your vision by straining for higher and higher dpis all day every day

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


nurrwick posted:

we got an m1 air 8+7/8GB/256GB in the middle of last year because we needed both an M1 and a current-version macos machine for testing out a whole raft of software and hardware for telework people, especially whether airpods' mic performance had gotten any better since march 2020 (no) and there was no cheaper way to do that than to go to our campus it store. it is the gold color. our lead desktop support guy hates this computer so much for its color, it's funny to me.

i've been using it as my home on the weekends machine and it is extremely needs suiting as a web poo poo terminal. time will tell if 8GB is fine, but i think given how fast the storage is, it probably won't be as miserable as machines that stayed on 4GB were back in the era of sata iii ssd upgrades.

also this machine works great with the dell c2422he display we got as a docking evaluator for people, because building a proper thunderbolt dock setup out of vendors we trust in tyool 2022 costs nearly eight hundred god drat dollars, vs 430 for the dell USB-C display.

seriously what's the difference between thunderbolt 3 and USB 4

what is it. post the secrets

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


gold isn't that bad, blue, green, gray, whatever, neutral tones aren't that bad. black is good, matte is great, allahu macbar

retina-searing chili con computer is bad, especially with an oled. my ics

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


nurrwick posted:

this thing's a 1080 panel with built-in webcam, speakerphone, and network adapter. reviews allege the panel is a horrible hunk of poo poo, but we wouldn't recommend this to art historians or film studies people anyway. sitting side by side next to my u2713h, 75% brightness and contrast compared to the ultrasharp's 50% b&c, it's fine. yeah it's perceivably dimmer but for the sorts of work i do professionally, we're firmly in the 'who cares' category. it's less of a difference than looking at the same jpeg in an edge window vs the google chat chrome app that runs in an edge instance. it's well worth the money for what it does.

personally would stick with ultrasharps though because i am a king poo poo baby that loves being able to do work i'm not supposed to do, which includes occasional video work, and the 27" qhd form factor works great for me. my boss and one of my employees both keep trying to get me on the ultrawide train but i'll probably hang with this resolution for as long as someone will sell it to me.

at home though i'm on some kind of wuxga dell display from a few years back and I love it and won't give it up until it dies. pretty sure it's an ultrasharp i got from micro center as an open-box. works great for my photo editing needs.

doesn't usb 4 include thunderbolt now? if it does, usb4 can be effectively thought of as an extension of tb3's capability, right? who would know or could tell???

real talk though: we've had a lot of dogshit USB-C docking solutions show up on our doorsteps, and I think the main issue is that they are built to a lower price and therefore suck profoundly, but also because the displayport chip options apparently don't all play nicely together with usb-c controllers in computers, especially in macs (or at least in intel macs, we haven't had many people try to approach us for support on m1 machines with external docking solutions). the old dell thunderbolt docks universally sucked poo poo on macs and pretty broadly sucked poo poo on windows machines, but the wd19tb/tbs both appear to have been stable for us on all recent stuff.

but moving forward, since we know an M1 mac will run fine off this display, it seems like at least we have a go-to recommendable for people getting work done on a docked machine. the displayport link works fine, the usb hub works fine, the rj45 works fine, the speakers kind of suck but will serve fine as a videoconferencing speakerphone, which is all i have to care about for most people.

this is a massive improvement over all the stupid piece of poo poo UXGOO and FLIBPBORQ $35 usb-c dongles people buy from amazon, so it is what we will spend money on here.

it was kind of a trick question. iirc they are indeed one and the same, but thunderbolt 4 requires usb 4 ó usb 4 is compatible with (at least, again iirc) and is literally the same as thunderbolt 3

e: you know what holy poo poo gently caress intel, why is there usb 3, 3.1, 3.2 and 4

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 6, 2022

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


nurrwick posted:

this is so incredibly stupid

i can totally see why apple only ever marketed its usb-c ports as thunderbolt 3 and stayed completely out of usb compability bullshit, because even on a unified connector and electrical standard, we still have this garbage.

lol i was skimming that too

kinda weird widespread adoption of intel's USB came with the imac, now in some cases apple's thunderbolt, intel's light peak and usb are the same thing,

yet

somehow

not

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Smythe posted:

my tb2 (mini dp shape plug) -> 3 (usbc shape) dongle doesnt pass mini displayport video. thats win. have to order some off brand poo poo to bring back the cinema display. gently caress you tim

tim has been making bad choices lately. ios is getting worse, but at least that seems about where it should be

macos' ui feels all swole and i have no interest in it as a general computing platform anymore. as an ex-apple that's... depressing, because nextstep et. al. were really neat

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


LanceHunter posted:

All the conspiracies about the existence of secret societies who control the world and constantly war with one another are true. But it's just different groups of hardware spec neckbeards making life hell for one another.

my god, it's full of star topologies

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Rufus Ping posted:

great apart from when waking My Macbook fails to bring the monitor back from standby for some reason. which i think is a crapple problem

it is, the same thing has happened to me across many, many (intel) macbooks pro and air and a bazillion different display configs. usually it's much worse over hdmi to the point signaling works at all, but even using dp the monitor sometimes needs to be unplugged from mains and plugged back in, just the dp cable will still refuse to sync. i haven't really been determined enough to try to find a permanent cause/fix since i can't seem to pin down any specific event that makes it lose its handshake

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Rufus Ping posted:

yeah it's only happened once lately and it resyncs with the off/on button for me but this also power cycles the built in usb hub which is a pain

lol you're lucky yours power cycles, on the dell i have connected to my old mbp if it loses the handshake it's basically impossible to tell if the loving thing is actually on or off since the backlight stays off and the status led resets to off, but the actual display seems to still power on since the usb hub works still. :shrug:

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


i guess this is why the studio display has an ipad stuffed into its pants

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


graybeard 15" crt 1280x1024 crew checking in, 5:4 supremacy

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


trinitron or gtfo

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Raluek posted:

yeah. best monitors i ever had were the pair of sony CPD-G400. 19", would do 1600x1200 @85Hz, crisp as hell, great colors. just perfect, until they started deteriorating

literally the only thing i didn't like about trinitrons were the aperture grill lines, those always bothered the poo poo out of me. but i think it was a reasonable tradeoff, especially as they got better at hiding them

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Raluek posted:

i never did get my hands on a diamondtron, but they're supposed to be better for this?? idk maybe someday

i have a 27" cinema display, but it doesn't work. seems ok other than that

my last non-studio monitor CRT was a 17" diamondtron, and yes it was better and yes it loving owned

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Plorkyeran posted:

i never could understand how people could look at a 60hz crt. even just having one in my peripheral vision made my eyes hurt

most people are really, really bad at noticing any sort of detail or subtlety

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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protip: limit screen sharing to a different desktop so people aren't like "what's he hiding"

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


eh, even without multiple monitors you can use ffmpeg + avfoundation to just use a virtual one

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


r u ready to WALK posted:

if you start involving ffmpeg why not go the extra mile and inject a prerecorded video version of yourself paying attention to meetings so you can go outside in the nice weather and do something productive

have literally done this before, 5/5 would cheat again

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Agile Vector posted:

doom 3 and its jump scares had the same thrashing behavior, i don't think a single thing took me by surprise, game design aside because half of them had a calm hallway before a complex enemy model popped a wall panel

lol i had a wd raptor at the time plus a stupid number of fans and a radeon x850 (i think), so if the disk was thrashing i never got to hear it anyway

doom 3 did come out on my birthday though. too bad i already got a free copy from beta testing it

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Kazinsal posted:

the merger of goth ihop and femboy hooters was noted as the turning point in recorded history that lead to world peace

Gothop and Fembooters, LLP

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


in a well actually posted:

it is 100% an internal ms thing

iirc it was for a holiday party or some poo poo though, and when they watched it were like hmm, our packaging actually does suck

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Internaut! posted:

so after trying the Dell XPS 17, MSI Creator Pro 17 and Asus ProArt StudioBook, I grabbed the base model 16" M1 MBP and holy poo poo, this is as much of a leap forward for laptops as the original unibody MacBook Pros

that said I think I'm gonna send it back and hope for a 32GB base model M2 announced at WWDC as 16GB on a $3500 laptop with an 8GB OS memory footprint is ridiculous - that said if anyone has a link to battery life on the 16" models between the base 16GB model and the Max with 64GB I'd love to see it

buying a m1 mac (not an ios device) right now would be pretty dumb, yeah. why do you need such a large laptop anyway

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Internaut! posted:

do any creative types here use an iPad with Pencil to control Photoshop or ZBrush with Sidecar? they're gonna let me swap my license from Windows to Mac, I'd be interested to know how good or bad the experience is compared to a Cintiq Pro

my wife does, mostly with illustrator. she hates sidecar though and eventually went back to her wacom thing

i tried it myself with photoshop and i can see why. it's hard as poo poo to use keyboard shortcuts at the same time and the crap ui doesn't help

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?


Internaut! posted:

why would I want a smaller screen when I can get a larger one?

ask her if she ever used it with one hand on the keyboard, that's how I've always used my Wacom, maybe she has one of the fancy ones with all sorts of buttons

because big laptops are unwieldy and you can get a 13 or 14" with 4K?

she does have a rather large wacom with several buttons but iirc it's pretty old. i was referring to using keyboard shortcuts on the ipad when using sidecar and an apple pencil: it predictably sucks.

using the apple pencil with actual ios apps is great though. i moonlight as a pro photographer and use pixelmator/pixelmator photo with it and it makes edits super easy to do accurately

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Binary Badger posted:

Oh noooo looook out here comes the return of Pippin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwXZexgYx0k

lol apple is out of ideas

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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i'm the dumb as hell oled carve-out that can definitely be placed somewhere else

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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infernal machines posted:

sure they would, but jumping straight to "well crapple's done it again" every time someone posts some hollywood upstairs design school graduate's concept render for a product based off one of a million patent fillings apple filed last year is a bit dumb.

for real they are clearly out of ideas though

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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infernal machines posted:

i think the problem is all the ideas they've had are making them more money than god every single year, they're not really motivated to innovate

this kills the apple

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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yippee cahier posted:

are they close enough that an M1-like jump to be on par with current gen hardware is possible?

lmao

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Phone posted:

itís pretty impressive though

itís apples and lenovos, but iím slowly consolidating a bunch of misc computer stuff to a 14Ē m1 max. i set up xiv on mac (ff14) last night andÖ it works pretty well? compared against a yoga c940 with a i7-1065g7 that tops out at about 30 fps, with everything turned up and no fiddling with settings the minimum i was seeing in limsa was 30; it was 55+ away from other players locked at 60 everywhere else. the lenovo in the same area would struggle to stay in the double digits.

that said, donít buy a m1 max only to play ff14

intel's integrated gpus being unadulterated dogshit doesn't make apple's miraculous.

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


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Achmed Jones posted:

or......does it?

no, not while amd's still kicking

Phone posted:

but also a ti-83+ could probably outdraw intel uhd graphics

probably has better opengl support than the m1, too

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