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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy




I though this would be complicatged but the tutorial really does a good job

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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
woah, this looks like codex on a hex grid. how did i not hear of this before?

always down for more zachtronics though, can i just buy a lifetime pass for whatever stuff that guy makes?

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
i believe it's in the games forum, op

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




I'm playing destiny 2 right on the xbone now, op

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news
thread not about computers, gas

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker

echinopsis posted:





I though this would be complicatged but the tutorial really does a good job

just rotate the product 60° ccw and save yourself a cycle

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
this game is kickign my rear end. i hit a certain point and my brain just said no more today

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
bobbilljim1337 on steam if u love to compare :wink:

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

gonadic io posted:

i believe it's in the games forum, op

zachtronics games get a pass in yospos and gently caress the games forums

Mr SuperAwesome posted:

thread not about computers, gas

get out mate

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker

bobbilljim posted:

this game is kickign my rear end. i hit a certain point and my brain just said no more today

talk it out. this is a supportive community

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
how is area calculated, does anyone know? does it count space that you swing chemicals thru?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
heh god I am inefficient

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Anaconda Rifle posted:

just rotate the product 60° ccw and save yourself a cycle

only just realised you could do this

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker
what i love about these games is that there are many ways to approach a problem. from level 1:





every page itt gonna be huge

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
lmao

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Anaconda Rifle posted:

what i love about these games is that there are many ways to approach a problem. from level 1:





every page itt gonna be huge

hmnm gently caress I am useless.I brute force everything

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
jesus look at this monstrosity

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
gently caress thought I had finished chapter one but three new missions turned up

bedtime

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i always find zacht games, start to get to the point where I know, gently caress, this puzzle is gonna be a real brain buster. gently caress

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
i just reinstalled spacechem op, I hope you're happy. Last I recall giving up on some kind of laser the boss bullshit level

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker

needs an arm in the corner just spinning constantly

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
actually love how all his games have such a unique vibe too

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker
my magnum opus:

Anaconda Rifle fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Oct 20, 2017

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
lol nice 420 69

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
i love optimizing my solutions. i have to force myself to move on and come back later. here's my progression on the first non-tutorial level:


naive first try:




then i realized, you can pick up and place faster with two arms on the mercury. also cricically the arm that puts it in the sink is not the same arm that kicks off the cycle at the source:




then i realized, you can save instructions by not resetting at the end of a cycle. namely the 6 arm rotator can drop the gold then pick up the next gold without having to rotate shaving a cycle. Likewise, if the mercury arm going last is not the one going first, it can pipeline and reset while the other is moving. so i got it down to this:




after removing some cruft and compacting:




i don't think you can get much faster than that. then i tried to make something as cheap as possible and it ended up being super compact too:

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

i don't think you can get much faster than that. then i tried to make something as cheap as possible and it ended up being super compact too:


you can cut the cost by 10 if you use a non-piston arm:

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
yeah you're right i couldn't figure out how to avoid the collision but of course you put the lead on the outside. nice.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

kotex posted:

echi needs a win

lol thanks mate ahaha

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
also don't go on reddit or you'll just spoil the optimal solution which takes a lot out of it.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Mr SuperAwesome posted:

thread not about computers, gas

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

i have no idea waht im lookin at with these pics folks

Anaconda Rifle
Mar 23, 2007

Yam Slacker

my bitter bi rival posted:

i have no idea waht im lookin at with these pics folks

your algorithm design is a pos

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
pipelining is the key to low cycle counts. make sure the first thing to go ends before the last thing to do something. for the source that you will need the highest count of, make sure you are picking something up from it on every odd cycle.


echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

my bitter bi rival posted:

i have no idea waht im lookin at with these pics folks

it does look like a mess until you do the turoirials

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

echinopsis posted:

it does look like a mess until you do the turoirials

Wait, there's a tutorial for your posts?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

pipelining is the key to low cycle counts. make sure the first thing to go ends before the last thing to do something. for the source that you will need the highest count of, make sure you are picking something up from it on every odd cycle.




jesus christ

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
yours vs mine lol

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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
haha don't feel bad man that was the final result of an iterative process. try to do it again starting with two arms on the light blue since you need twice as many of them, then fit in the teal one where it will link and finally an output arm. i guarantee you'll at least in the ballpark.

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