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Sal, Dancer and Chic are scum.
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Oct 31, 2017 20:29
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Can I vote gulag
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Oct 31, 2017 21:13
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jon joe posted:Li Dawny + Sal avatar friends Not sure what this means but cool, I like friends. Also, not that I want to spend time defending Juchero’s dumb claim because I’m not sure what his alignment is but he’s pretty dumb in general today.
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Oct 31, 2017 21:23
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I’m calling you scum
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Oct 31, 2017 21:27
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jon joe posted:I’m calling you scum Me? What’s your reasoning?
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Oct 31, 2017 21:55
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I know Chic's had a lot of IRL stuff going on, so I'm not ready to jump on lurker = scum with her, I don't think. I think she's lurking hard enough that if it stays this way, she's going to get prodded by Kash anyways.NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:let's all fullclaim I'm vanilla town Yorkshire Tea posted:This is the sum total of all of Sal's content since jokephase ended. I don't feel like either is enough to vote Never or Sal yet, but if we go through Day 2 without any actual content for them, they're going to go pretty high on my list of suspicions. In the mean time, lemme get some more Opinions(TM) in. Juchero posted:Okay here's the deal, I'm very busy and I wanted to do this right but I'm cop, b-minus isn't scum.  This almost feels like it has to be an outlandish scum strategy. If Ju was just busy and actually the cop, I don't think he'd be nearly so gung-ho about drawing the attention onto himself for an essentially-useless claim. It gives us nothing to work with, but people are going to be very reluctant to kill a cop who isn't counterclaimed. But if a cop were to counterclaim, they'd have a very good chance at killing them on D2. If I were scum, but too busy to contribute properly, turning myself into a potential sacrificial lamb to out the cop would sound like a very clever idea. There's other possibilities, that this is a town gambit of some kind, but with Occam's Razor gleaming bright, yeah, I'm not buying this at all. ##vote Juchero
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Oct 31, 2017 21:59
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Mafia edit: Killing the real cop on D2 if the counterclaim isn't believed, N2 if it is.
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Oct 31, 2017 22:00
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jon joe posted:I’m calling you scum please provide sum evidence or i, town cop Sgt. Juchero, will be forced to uh ask you tough questions? i forget how to play this dumb game also bee don't bitch ive had one hell of a day, ur not scum too BAD oh and pmush ur expert analysis hinges on me not being bad at mafia, and also "im in the middle of a move", while true, isn't what is honestly taking up my brain meats but that's none of anyone's business but your response is very town logic so ur good with me, just keep ur nose(AND ur POSTS) clean
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Oct 31, 2017 22:07
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Who's busy moving, then? The why of being busy isn't as important as long as it's something you expect to continue throughout the game.
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Oct 31, 2017 22:09
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PMush Perfect posted:Who's busy moving, then? both Dawny and I are in the middle of a move since we're all married to each other and poo poo it should be over tomorrow
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Oct 31, 2017 22:52
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Juchero posted:both Dawny and I are in the middle of a move since we're all married to each other and poo poo Congrats on the new place and whenever you got married since I am apparently incredibly out of the loop!  Still think you're scum though.
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Oct 31, 2017 23:12
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Thank you for the breakdown of SalTheBard’s post history, YT. I do not like that PMush defended Chic Trombone after Nevergirls voted to lynch her. Even if you know someone is busy irl, you shouldn’t know anything about their role/alignment, unless you’re scumbuddies. It just seems strange to defend another player, especially a lurker, this early in the game, but it could be because I hate lurkers and have no problem lynching any of them. I do not understand why Juchero felt he had to claim, but I hate that he did it. Man, you weren’t even under that much pressure. If the cop claim is true, then you’ve given up a critical town role to the scum. If it is false, then the real cop SHOULD NOT COUNTERCLAIM!!! For the moment, I believe the claim. Juchero was suspicious of me yesterday, so I would understand why he would investigate me. However, I don’t understand why he made this post: Juchero posted:b minus is still my pick but I need a little time to reread Strongest town reads: YT, Nevergirls, Asiina, Juchero Scum reads: SalTheBard, ChicTrombone Neutral on everyone else ##vote SalTheBard
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Oct 31, 2017 23:20
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## vote salthebard as well.
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Nov 1, 2017 00:07
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a) weird time for cop to claim imo, i didn't see any huge pressure on b-1 so why claim now? b) hi im in the middle of a depressive episode and am a very busy person who should probably just finally give up forever on mafia because every time i think i'll have time i end up not having time (not replacing out just whinging i guess)
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Nov 1, 2017 00:14
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b-minus1 posted:For the moment, I believe the claim. Juchero was suspicious of me yesterday, so I would understand why he would investigate me. However, I don’t understand why he made this post: A Good Find Juchero feels fishy
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Nov 1, 2017 00:19
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##vote salthebardJuchero posted:please provide sum evidence Li responded really scummily to Asiina's basic questions. I think this is the most damning part, however: Li Dawny posted:Making two correct calls makes you more trustworthy. Li Dawny posted:Because you were right twice. The two ways I see this happening is you’re scum, or you’re extremely good at this game/lucky.
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Nov 1, 2017 00:53
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The primary reason I'm "lurking like hell" is that I didn't take part in joke-phase. I have as many serious posts in this thread as you do. And, slight misunderstanding: where I come from we exclusively use "investigate", so when you said "examine" I didn't know you meant actual people with special powers doing the investigating (thought you just meant "hey let's discuss those guys"). I could get behind voting for Sal... But the cop claim is too weird. ##vote Juchero
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Nov 1, 2017 00:56
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anyone voting a claimed cop d2 with a town result is a loving moron
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Nov 1, 2017 00:57
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jon joe posted:anyone voting a claimed cop d2 with a town result is a loving moron Why would it have been better to vote him if he had claimed b- is scum? In that case, wouldn't voting b- be the correct choice?
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Nov 1, 2017 01:23
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PMush Perfect posted:Why would it have been better to vote him if he had claimed b- is scum? In that case, wouldn't voting b- be the correct choice? Probably, but there's also the possibility that the cop and investigation target interactions leaves the cop the better vote.
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Nov 1, 2017 01:26
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jon joe posted:anyone voting a claimed cop d2 with a town result is a loving moron The "b-minus is innocent" claim is just... so bad. b-minus was barely under suspicion at the time, and the real cop revealing themselves for basically zero benefit like that absolutely does not feel like a thing even the most incompetent cop would do. At the moment I consider Juchero and Sal to be the biggest suspects, leaning towards the latter. (Incidentally I trust b-minus slightly more now, since both a real and a scum cop have good reason to say that a townie is indeed a townie).
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Nov 1, 2017 01:27
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PMush Perfect posted:Why would it have been better to vote him if he had claimed b- is scum? In that case, wouldn't voting b- be the correct choice? Imo it shouldn’t matter. I’m suspicious of anyone voting for a person who has claimed cop. I hate the claim, but not enough to vote for him. Especially since he said he would come back and explain when he has time.
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Nov 1, 2017 01:31
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jon joe posted:Probably, but there's also the possibility that the cop and investigation target interactions leaves the cop the better vote.
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Nov 1, 2017 01:32
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PMush Perfect posted:So why doesn't that apply when the cop says town? I'm really not following your logic here. Because there's no reason for the investigation target to say the cop is lying and therefore no forced choice between them?
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Nov 1, 2017 01:34
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The important bit wasn't that anyway.b-minus1 posted:Imo it shouldn’t matter. I’m suspicious of anyone voting for a person who has claimed cop. I hate the claim, but not enough to vote for him. Especially since he said he would come back and explain when he has time. Yeah pretty much this.
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Nov 1, 2017 01:35
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ugh i made my claim after calling on b-minus as my pick becuz i forgot I was cop until I checked my discord pms the reason i claimed is the same reason I investigated him: if I didn't know he was town 100% i personally would have led the charge. with that assumption and the knowledge i couldn't participate actively(right now i am at a new emotional and physical limit I didn't know existed for me), I made my claim to avoid what I thought would be an obvious day 2 mislynch would my claim have been better either another day or once momentum on minus had built? duhhhhhhhhh no poo poo, but that's not the choice I thought I could make please just take it on faith for now, i literally do not have the time or energy to fight for this right now tomorrow tho, im here and ready to roll
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Nov 1, 2017 01:46
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YT you can advocate voting for me that's fine. I'm 100% town though. I agree with your point that having someone investigate me to determine I'm telling the truth is fine. If you want another townie to due vote for me, if you want to work to eliminate scum vote for someone else. I'm not good at defending myself here so I don't know what else to say. Kill a lurker before me is all I ask.
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Nov 1, 2017 02:44
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SalTheBard posted:YT you can advocate voting for me that's fine. I'm 100% town though. I agree with your point that having someone investigate me to determine I'm telling the truth is fine. If you want another townie to due vote for me, if you want to work to eliminate scum vote for someone else. I'm not good at defending myself here so I don't know what else to say. Kill a lurker before me is all I ask. Who is sus?
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Nov 1, 2017 02:49
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SalTheBard posted:YT you can advocate voting for me that's fine. I'm 100% town though. I agree with your point that having someone investigate me to determine I'm telling the truth is fine. If you want another townie to due vote for me, if you want to work to eliminate scum vote for someone else. I'm not good at defending myself here so I don't know what else to say. Kill a lurker before me is all I ask. try saying who you think the scum is
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Nov 1, 2017 03:03
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in fact, here, let me demonstrate i think JonJoe is scum ##vote jonjoe i'll elaborate on this tomorrow hopefully i'll have time
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Nov 1, 2017 03:05
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Sal, provide some reads. Who is suspicious? We need to hold off hammering.we still have plenty of time
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Nov 1, 2017 03:07
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b-minus1 posted:We need to hold off hammering.we still have plenty of time ##unvote
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Nov 1, 2017 03:09
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Side note, definitely feeling b- is town now.Dancer posted:(Incidentally I trust b-minus slightly more now, since both a real and a scum cop have good reason to say that a townie is indeed a townie).
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Nov 1, 2017 03:12
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actually i'll just boil it down to the salient points now before i go to bed so i don't forget tomorrow Basically, if you look through his post history he's posted white noise and reactions, with few to no serious thoughts or callouts of his own. He's skating by on being a high-volume poster (relatively, anyways) without contributing much anything of substance and it's rubbing me the wrong way There's also a dash of wifom with him having joked about himself being scum for town points but that's wifom and not really worth pursuing tbh
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Nov 1, 2017 03:13
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Chic Trombone posted:try saying who you think the scum is So looking at still living players who DIDN'T vote for Hal: Jon Joe, Asiina, Dance, and Juchero I feel confident in saying that there was obviously scum that voted for Hal (as is the nature of the game), but I'm going to ignore that for now. Based off the of the amount of posts we have JJ (28), Asiina (28), Dancer (9), and Juchero (18). When I was playing my last game I was scum and I attempted to post enough to stay active, but not enough to have my name constantly out there so that's why I'm leaning towards Juchero. I'm fine accepting my fate if people want to vote for me, but I'm town. ##Vote Juchero
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Nov 1, 2017 03:29
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SalTheBard posted:So looking at still living players who DIDN'T vote for Hal: You want to lynch the person that hardclaimed cop.... If you really are town, You should consider hard claiming, because that definitely hasn’t convinced me. I need more. Other than juchero, who has claimed cop, Who is your scum team? Tell me your top 3 sus reads.
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Nov 1, 2017 03:35
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That's bad reasoning, everyone plays scum differently. It doesn't say why you think he's scum specifically other than is posting a little but not the most. Like me and JJ have a lot of posts but there's not a huge amount of content to most of them.
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Nov 1, 2017 03:38
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Chic Trombone posted:actually i'll just boil it down to the salient points now before i go to bed so i don't forget tomorrow You caught me. Avatar, please.
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Nov 1, 2017 03:39
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Asiina posted:That's bad reasoning, everyone plays scum differently. All of my posts are 100% content. I waste not a word.
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Nov 1, 2017 03:41
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b-minus1 posted:You want to lynch the person that hardclaimed cop.... Gun to my head: Juchero, JJ and Nevergirls. I didn't find anything on the wiki so I'm sorry I'm not sure what hard claiming means. Dancer pointed out that it would be extremely weird for someone to claim cop on N2. While I don't know that for sure I'm inclined to agree with them, which makes Jucheros post even stranger now that I've thought about it. Asiina posted:That's bad reasoning, everyone plays scum differently. I get that everyone plays differently. I'm just looking at what I would do if I was in this situation. You guys do have a lot of posts but thats not a bad thing. loving hell I wish I had as many posts as you guys do!
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