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So, I felt the need to pare down my RX-7 collection (7, before this - 5 first gens, and 2 second gens,) and put an '84 GSL-SE that's been in my garage with a worn out low-compression engine for 17 years, and my running/driving '90 GXL with rear seat up for sale on Facebook and RX7club. I pinged a couple of people that had expressed interest in the cars over the years, and one young man who had really liked my '90 responded that he didn't have any cash, but was going to put his AE86 coupe up for sale, or maybe would I be interested in a trade. After looking over the pictures he had, and what had been done to it, I decided it was probably worth more than I was asking for the FC, so the swap was a go! He dropped it off on Sunday:  (departing RX-7 in the background. I wasn't fast enough to get a decent shot. I mean, my fingers in the frame, FFS.)   The headlights do go down. Battery was flat, and I guess he drove with the lights on the last time he parked it.  Genuine Momo steering wheel, and some sort of short shifter.  Axle was trying to escape when they loaded and unloaded the car on the flatbed. The bearing separated. New bearings are supposed to be in the back seat. I was busy Sunday with house stuff, so didn't get to play with it much. I charged the battery, and it fired right up. It's got a Weber 32/36 carb on it, and emissions delete. He did include the OEM carb. Matching wheels for the rear are in the trunk. He has a "D1-style" fiberglass front bumper/air dam, but it was too big to transport, and no mounting hardware, so I'll need to pick that up. I've got some big spare parts for the FC to take him anyway. Somehow I didn't take pic of the engine yet. I'll upload some of his pics from Facebook. It has Cruise control, power steering (I think), power sunroof, and *had* AC. Manual windows, door locks, and mirrors. Sunroof works. Exterior lights work, headlights pop up/down. New muffler shop exhaust New fuel tank, filter, and fuel level sending unit. New alternator and belt. New front main seal. New oil pan gasket. New cam cover gasket. New ceramic pads on front brakes. New ceramic shoes for rear, not installed. 14" Celica "baby Supra" wheels. 2 new tires. Roof spoiler. Rocket Bunny style ducktail trunk spoiler. Fiberglas wider rear over-fenders. Carpet dash cover. Needs: Fix cracked widebody fender. Or remove and fix a lot of rivet holes. Change trans oil. edit: cooling fan shroud edit: I noticed that it has a bracket for the power steering pump on the engine. Need to check the rack and see if it's supposed to have power steering. Drivers mirror - no knob/loose and floppy 1/20/17 mounted pivot assembly correctly. Still no knob, but mirror no longer loose. edit: 11/8/17: edit 11/10/17: water in drivers rear under-seat area. edit 11/18/17: Passenger door panel not near as bad, but still needs some love. edit 11/20/17:
edit 11/25/17: battery hold down missing CHARGE light not working rear differential grinding/noisy edit: 1/26/17
Probably needs shocks and struts Needs front end alignment. Darchangel fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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More photos from the prior owner:            Axle escape:  Roof spoiler, which I assume is still in his garage. 
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Oct 23, 2017 20:33
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This seems like an immense turd so it will be a fantastic thread. That's how logic works, take a community college class sometime. Are you going to recondition that Momo wheel? It looks kinda filthy.
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Oct 23, 2017 20:39
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I'm definitely going to clean it, and everything else. It's not that bad - the lettering is just stained, I think.
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Oct 23, 2017 20:46
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Holy poo poo man, I wish you luck. This is gonna be fun to watch.
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Oct 23, 2017 20:52
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 "Ahhhctually, the thread title should be referencing driving your mother home when she was too tired after work, even though you were only a little kid at the time..."I always think the 2drs look like early Preludes in profile.
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Oct 23, 2017 20:54
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The Eurobeat in my heart has been awakened. Owns.
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Oct 23, 2017 21:21
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Darchangel posted:More photos from the prior owner: It's beautiful How do you start with something so nice looking and make it such a turd? Truly a miracle of nature.
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Oct 23, 2017 22:49
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InitialDave posted:I always think the 2drs look like early Preludes in profile. They do. The Quaalude is a little lower slung, but yeah, pretty much. ishikabibble posted:It's beautiful 20-somethings with not a lot of actual wrenching/building experience. I'd have definitely done a better job with the spray bombs, but then, I've been building model cars since the '80s, and picked up a few small skills with spray cans, and learned the importance of masking. Just a fresh paint job will make a world of difference. For what it's worth, I liked it in the original silvery blue, but I can see that the front end has been replaced with silver parts. Not sure about the fate of the wide rear fenders. I'd rather have bubble flares if I need room for wider tires. I really hope I can get that roof spoiler. I really like the look of those on these and the 2G Celicas/Supras. Speaking of: need to add "strip paint from Celica wheels" to the list. They've been painted grey, but its such a bad job they just look dirty.
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Oct 23, 2017 23:52
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that poor car
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Oct 23, 2017 23:55
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A couple of minor tasks accomplished after doing some necessary work on my house's front door threshold (rotted out). I set out to put a good tire on the left rear, and yank the tire off the axle that needs bearings. I did that, swapping the wheel and tire from the right to the left, and chucking the shredded tire on the left into the backyard. The trunk contained 3 more 13" steelies, two with tires that are worn out but hold air, and one more Celica 14" with a now-slick tire. I hope he still has the 4th Celica rim. The answer to "why low?" is "cut springs", and one managed to slip off the perch one winding, since the bottoms of the springs no longer flatten out enough to seat properly. I may have to get some proper lowering springs. In digging into the trunk, I discovered that one of the torsion bars was disconnected, and the trunk lid would not stay up. The torsion spring wasn't broken, so I wrangled it back into place with prybars and channel-locks. Trunk stays up now! Wiring is sort of strewn around the trunk - not sure what's going on back there. Will have to look at the service manual to see where it's all supposed to go. Nothing else of import in the trunk besides some minor bits and pieces. I'll dig into the stuff in the interior and see what I've got to work with, hopefully have all the bearings bits so I can get the press work done this week and have a rolling car.
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Oct 24, 2017 06:05
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Title is wrong, already looks ruined. I think it can only go up from here, holy poo poo. Good luck
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Oct 24, 2017 18:01
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Larrymer posted:Title is wrong, already looks ruined. I think it can only go up from here, holy poo poo. Good luck Is that a challenge? It still has a full interior. Clearly it is not doriftu-worthy.
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Oct 24, 2017 20:34
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Just for comparison, these are the only two AE86s currently up on Craigslist in the area: https://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/cto/d/aeobo/6356543095.html  Got some good mechanical bits, but interior is stripped, and LOL no AC in Texas. Body is meh. Those are the wheels, I have, only not crappily painted. https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/ae86-gts/6359027040.html  Better interior, but front end mangled and motor seized. I was trying to sell my FC for $2500, the prior owner of my AE86 put it up for $2750. I feel like I did OK on the deal, other than the FC was pretty well sorted out mechanically, and I knew all its quirks.
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Oct 24, 2017 21:50
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That hatchback would cost at least twice that much over here, even in that condition.
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Oct 24, 2017 22:06
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https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/d/1986-corolla-coupe-ae86/6355650009.html
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Oct 24, 2017 22:21
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At least that one is clean, painted, and pretty much ready to race, looks like. Not sure I like the smooth front and rear, but nice tinwork. SR20? Eh. Uh... https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/d/1uz-trade-sale/6336302324.html   And I just sold my GSL-SE for $1000, so there's just this cash, lying there. Dammit. What are the chances I could sell a RA20 for $1K without the engine?
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Oct 24, 2017 22:34
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Well, Celicas have started going to the moon so I would think you might even get more than that.
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BlackMK4 posted:Well, Celicas have started going to the moon so I would think you might even get more than that. It helps that this one is about 70 miles away from a major population center (Fort Worth), I guess. poo poo. Now I'contemplating just how much trouble I would get in. I bet the rear end would fly apart instantly. then again, you have to have traction to break a diff...
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Oct 25, 2017 00:44
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Buy this. But holy poo poo, that wheel offset.
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Oct 25, 2017 11:00
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InitialDave posted:That hatchback would cost at least twice that much over here, even in that condition. I am legit angry at that. All I want is a loving Sprinter. That's it. I'd be happy.
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Oct 25, 2017 11:44
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I am legit angry at that. All I want is a loving Sprinter. That's it. I'd be happy.
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Larrymer posted:Buy this. But holy poo poo, that wheel offset. Yeah, those are far from fitting. Might work with bubble flares or something, I guess, but as is, looks like a roller skate. Did some cleanup work on the rear axle and wheels last night. I needed to get the bearing retainer off so it could be on the axle before the bearings are pressed on, and didn't want to deal with this greasy mess:   Never mind that grease and brakes are never a good combo. Thanks to Purple Power and a pressure washer, I've now got this:  While I was in there I pressure washed what I could reach of the chassis, fuel tank, and wheel well. I got the retainer out, and it's pretty mangled. Ordered a new on, and the gaskets this morning.  Axle:    Yeah, that bearing generated a little heat before it gave up. Still need to get the outer race and seal (that ovbiously wasn't sealing all that well) out of the housing. Fortunately, courtesy of the prior owner, I have 2 sets of rear axle bearings and seals, 1 set of ceramic brake shoes, and a drum brake hardware kit.  While I was degreasing stuff, I took a stab at cleaning up the back side of the two Celica GT-S wheels that were not on the car. They were absolutely covered in grease and grime on the inside.  I did the first one just by spraying with purple cleaner and scrubbing. For the second one, I decided to scrape off what I could first. After a little scraping.  After a lot more scraping:   How long was your axle seal weeping, bro? After a whole bunch of scrubbing and power washing:  Thank God. I hate handling super greasy stuff. It's just unnecessary. Used to be orange, too. Time to buy some aircraft stripper, if I don't have any already. Did a little damage to the front side, too, between the cleaner and the power washer. No big since I intend to restore them. 
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Making some good progress. I was going to say "how many years has it been since they made RE92s?" but they still do 
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Oct 25, 2017 21:07
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The one in the picture is bald, and the other one has steel showing. Because doriftu, one presumes. Never mind one of the steel wheels has a tire with plenty of tread, but a sidewall puncture, and another was the one in the pictures on the left rear, that apparently exploded. I could have those removed, but I think I'm going to try just cutting them off. Once the bead wire is cut, it shouldn't be too painful. Right? Probably will be no more progress tonight - I need to get the threshold back under my front door, and I'm tired as is. More on the weekend, I hope, if not Thursday/Friday. I'm kind of itching to take it for a ride, really.
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Oct 25, 2017 22:07
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So what are your plans for it? Full restoration? Tofu Delivery clone? Drift Missile? So stoked to see a 86 thread 
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Oct 25, 2017 23:40
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I'm curious about this too. I assume since you are even bothering to touch that axle you just want something to cruise around or run errands? Or do you just want it moveable until you start digging into it? And what was the previous owners plan? Crazy color scheme and body kit but still putting time and money into a 4ac engine? I'm hoping you've got a sc22 with a bad body for a swap. I hope this doesn't come off as sounding critical, I'm just used to seeing SR5s get parted out to fix GTSs.
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Oct 26, 2017 03:13
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Why not a 4age/4agze? Are they available/plentiful in the US?
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Oct 26, 2017 07:47
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I can't believe you scraped that much gunk off a loving WHEEL. That's the kind of garbage you clean off old engine crossmembers. Ugh. I've always liked that style of wheel so I look forward to seeing the restoration. Glad you're keeping them.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:So what are your plans for it? Full restoration? Tofu Delivery clone? Drift Missile? No drift. Just make it decent and drive for now. Bibendum posted:I'm curious about this too. I assume since you are even bothering to touch that axle you just want something to cruise around or run errands? Or do you just want it moveable until you start digging into it? And what was the previous owners plan? Crazy color scheme and body kit but still putting time and money into a 4ac engine? I'm hoping you've got a sc22 with a bad body for a swap. I hope this doesn't come off as sounding critical, I'm just used to seeing SR5s get parted out to fix GTSs. It's stock as hell. I drove a bone stock '79 RX-7 for years. I can deal with old slow Japanese cars. I do want it functional first, regardless. I already have the bearings, and the retainer was all of $7 from Toyota. All he did to the 4AC is yang the emissions stuff and slap a Weber on it. I like the coupe, and as far as I know, there were no GT-S coupes in the US. What the heck is an SC22? slothrop posted:Why not a 4age/4agze? Are they available/plentiful in the US? Available yes, maybe. Plentiful, meh. Expensive because of SICK DORIFTU INITIAL D BRO? yes. I get one result when I hit up the local craigslist for "4AGE", and it's keyword spam in a JDM engine importer who doesn't actually have any 4AGEs. Unless very luck, it would almost have to be a FWD engine conversion from the later Corolla. There is a HUGE drift tax on AE86s. Boaz MacPhereson posted:I can't believe you scraped that much gunk off a loving WHEEL. That's the kind of garbage you clean off old engine crossmembers. Ugh. I've always liked that style of wheel so I look forward to seeing the restoration. Glad you're keeping them. Yeah, someone had a super leaky axle seal. Those wheels are pretty beefy: 14x7, from the Celica GT-S (aka "baby Supra" wheels). Previous owner put 175/65-14 tires on them, which is a little stretched. I think I'm going to go with the stock Corolla GT-S size of 190/60-14.
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Still waiting on the axle retainer plate to do the axle bearings. Supposed to be delivered tomorrow. Degreased the engine bay. It needed it badly - it had a leaking front main seal, valve cover, and oil pan when the preveous owner got it, which he fixed, but that still sprayed oil all over everything.   It may not look all that bad, but I assure you that every surface in there will make you dirty and slippery. Even the underside of the hood was practically dripping. After some quality time with purple cleaner and Mr. Power Washer:    Also went after the baby Supra wheels:  Now clean:   And then did the second one:  The guy I traded with brought all the spare parts he couldn't bring with the car originally, and likewise, I loaded him up with all the FC spares I had. I should have gotten a pic of his 4Runner loaded down with all the RX-7 crap. Here's what he brought me:   A full set of spare front struts, springs, spindles, and brakes, another original steering wheel, an e-fan, and a pair of drilled/slotted front rotors. Also got the front bumper:   After I finished up the other stuff I was doing for the day, I decided to see how the bumper fit, and look at what bracketry I'll need to fabricobble. The first thing I discovered is that it won't fit with the OEM USDM bumper bar. So I took that off - after a whole mess of banging, bashing, and swearing, because 2 of the mounting bolts, that go through the chassis rails, rusted on the portion that was inside the rails. Not the number of tools required to convince the damned thing to get off:  The fit on the bumper is not terrible, but it will need a lot of tweaking on the passenger side:  (yes, the can of WD-40 is holding up the bumper.)    Driver's side is much better:   In somewhat related news, the dud who put down cash on the GSL-SE RX-7 actually came back with a U-haul truck and trailer, paid the rest, and took the SE home:  I haven't seen the garage that empty since I moved in. edit: astute readers will note that my Crown Vic is parked beside the AE86 in some of the pictures, which mean my '70 Cutlass is not parked there, meaning that it *moved*. For the first time in like a year. A fresh battery (from the Corolla) and some gas down the float bowl vent and it started right up. An immediately began peeing gas out of the mechanical fuel pump, but it ran and moved enough to get it out of the way so we could extract the GSL-SE. I'll need to move it back at some point. Darchangel fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Oct 30, 2017 16:25
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Darchangel posted:And then did the second one: The wheels are looking great, nice refurb. I love how similar they look to Starion wheels. 
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Garage2Roadtrip posted:The wheels are looking great, nice refurb. I love how similar they look to Starion wheels. They look so much better without the lovely paint on them. I love the Starion wheels as well. There's a dude here with a first-gen RX-7 that's been converted to 5-lug with them, and it looks fantastic. I've even seen them on second gen RX-7s, but they need a little more fender thanks to the more positive offset. I think I'm going to mask off the machined portions and paint the insets either dark grey or black. I did that on a set of first-gen RX-7 "plus" wheels, after sanding the machining marks smooth and polishing, and they looked great. 
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Oct 30, 2017 18:06
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It's amazing how much worse the car looks with that teal paint instead of the original silver.
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I had baby supra wheels on my Soarer back in the day, one of my favorite stock wheels ever. I think with those wheels and and removing the crappy rear fenders your 86 car has potential.
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Lightbulb Out posted:It's amazing how much worse the car looks with that teal paint instead of the original silver. Agreed. Just Sunday, when I opened the door and my wife got a glimpse of the original ice silver/blue, she said "Ooo, pretty!" I wonder if I can get that poo poo off with copious amounts of paint thinner? It is just spray paint. Applebees Appetizer posted:I had baby supra wheels on my Soarer back in the day, one of my favorite stock wheels ever. Those look like the 15x6 wheels from the "L" (Luxury) Supra. Mine are the 14x7s from the "P" (performance). No idea why they didn't make 15x7s, which would have had the nice dish of the 14x7 with a usable diameter. Decent 14" tires are almost non-existent. I really like those wheels, though. And yeah, I'm really thinking about removing the fenders. If I had wide wheels to go back there that would *fill* the fenders, I'd probably repair and keep them on the car. The down side is filling two billion pop-rivet holes.
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Heh, going to definitely get the paint code off the car. Toyota had 4 different silvers, plus several grays, and several light/silverish blues. Jesus, when did the cheap-ish paint from TCPGlobal get to be $200+/gallon for single stage?
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There's a Starion on stands (and has been for years) about 1/2 a mile from my house that I want to steal the wheels off. I ride home past it every day and the desire to roll up one night and remove them is great.
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Oct 31, 2017 17:04
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Olympic Mathlete posted:There's a Starion on stands (and has been for years) about 1/2 a mile from my house that I want to steal the wheels off. I ride home past it every day and the desire to roll up one night and remove them is great. If you're lucky they're SHP wheels (8" front, 9" back). I have a couple sets of both, and the SHP ones look pretty rad with the lip/offset polished up.
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Garage2Roadtrip posted:If you're lucky they're SHP wheels (8" front, 9" back). I have a couple sets of both, and the SHP ones look pretty rad with the lip/offset polished up. Oh, those are gorgeous. I've coveted those since I saw the widebody Starquest turbo twins at a new car show back in the day. The entire car really. I know the engines aren't the most fabulous (and really should have been a 4G63) but the widebodies are near perfection in a stock '80s Japanese car. Why, yes, I am following Garage2Roadtrip's 1UZ Starion thread, thanks for asking.
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