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Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

People like Fleetwood, are the reason republicans have a plethora of examples to choose from when arguing “poor people deserve to be poor”.

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Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:

Just so you know, if you enter a digit wrong it doesn't go through. It's not like the money gets sent somewhere else, it simply doesn't get sent. Bitcoin is very resistant to typos because the addresses contain a built-in check code. So if you had simply mistyped a few of the letters or numbers in the address, it's extremely unlikely the client would let you complete a transaction with an incorrect address. You'd have to paste in another working address.


Lol, oh so wrong. I once did exactly this.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

tak posted:



Oh by the way, I have no actual BTC, just $800 locked in an exchange balance. But I'll crow anyway about bitcoins being the future of money and/or a great store of value. See? the website even says that it's safe in their TOS


I find this part the most funny and ironic

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

It’s fascinating how FC admits he doesn’t know anything about finance or investing, yet immediately has the hubris to think he’s the smartest one in the room on said subject.

Is there a general psychology term for this sort of phenomenon?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Then why do you think you’re the most knowledgeable about finance and investing in here? I’m genuinely curious. Is it just plain old Dunning–Kruger? You seem smart enough to have at least this level of introspection?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:



I don't and never claimed to be. I also think the psychology, economics, and computer science fields offer more insight in bitcoin than finance or investing.

Your posts are authoritative in tone, it seems very incongruent. Ahhhh, last sentence explains it.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

FC, have you explained yet why you don’t actually hold bitcoins if they are so great? Your coin base buys are not bitcoins.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:

I trust Coinbase at least as much as I trust my bank. It's good enough for me considering the small quantity of btc I currently have. If I had $10k+ in btc I'd store it in a cold wallet at a secure location.


This doesn’t answer the question- why did you not buy bitcoin directly?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:

I can send my btc to my phone or a cold wallet at any time of my choosing. I bought from Coinbase because we're in the middle of a pandemic, which makes face to face meetings more difficult. I live in a city and don't own a car.

This makes no sense. You think the only way to get actual bitcoin is face-to-face?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:

Not the only way, obviously. Just my preference. I'm a social person, I enjoy meeting like-minded people and talking to them about shared interests. An in person trade is an opportunity to do that.

Say why you used coinbase instead of buying actual bitcoin online. You’re dancing around the question.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Why don’t you buy actual bitcoin and report back? Then you can claim a semblance of knowing what you’re talking about.

The irony is “the way of the future” is actually inconvenient as gently caress and one of the simplest, comprehensible reasons bitcoin will die.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:

The early internet was also extremely inconvenient, confusing, and user-unfriendly. It too was decried as a wild west for criminals and pornographers. The internet evolved and people learned and adapted. The same will happen here.

But the advocates actually used the thing they were advocating...

Buy the bitcoin and back your words with action. Sounds like it would be a good mod challenge.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Fleetwood Crack posted:

When every state and most nations have legal weed (and eventually other drugs like shrooms), very few people will bother using darknets and crypto to buy them.

Lol, then bitcoin goes bye-bye

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Can anyone link their favorite bitcoin shutdown arguments? I want to be able to reply to bitcoins idiots in my personal life succinctly and without effort.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

"Bitcoin uses more energy than Demark, and half of that is used to aid and abet fraud, extortion, child pornography, terrorism, and drug sales. If you're into that kind of thing, have you heard of the wonderful world of conflict minerals? There are some very good prices on diamonds and cobalt from some nice gentlemen in the Congo you might be interested in."

I like this quite a bit

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

vortmax posted:

There can only ever be 21,000,000 bitscoin! Except for that one time when someone created billions out of nowhere. And the miners could change their minds and make more buttcoins after the 21M limit. But they won't because reasons.

Could you elaborate on this? Genuinely curious, as most BTC research (Web searches) is impeded by “pump” marketing/true believer bullshit.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

So is a 51% attack basically Means forcing a fork?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Does each fork double the number of “unmined” coins, as things are now being solved redundantly down each fork?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Is there a defined “who” for the cabal of miners who dictate the rules?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

CampingCarl posted:

In theory anyone can mine with the software and it was intended to be decentralized and run on lots of people's computers. The network adjusts the difficulty of finding a block to how fast the last X blocks were found to keep the rate consistent. So for example if you double the rate of mining eventually it will be twice as difficult to mine. CPU and ASIC miners came out and eventually centralized into larger industrial mining farms with massive power requirements which made it impractical for consumer hardware to contribute. Of course if price of bitcoin is greater than the electricity to mine it it is profitable for miners to add more power, increasing energy usage even though the ledger for bitcoin itself could be run on a solar powered calculator.

I basically get that part, but who dictates which fork is legitimate?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Sounds like true anarchists just want to live in a swingers commune. They should do some cross-advertising with Sandals Jamaica.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Apparently, Today someone moved 40BTC that was mined in the first 30 days of bitcoin going public. Seems like this could be sign that things are going to get quite interesting for btc.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

I remember reading an excellent blog post about tether and bitfinex and thought I found it here. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

ghosTTy posted:

Author is being disingenuous when he uses Tether and Stablecoins interchangeably. The majority of stablecoins are not like Tether; decentralized, transparent and backed by on-chain collateral. What's with nocoiner journalists and their dishonesty? :colbert:

How does that affect the argument about tether at all? How does your “fact” have any relevance whatsoever?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019


That’s the one!

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

ghosTTy posted:



This will become standard across the globe

Already addressed:

https://www.designboom.com/architecture/post-jcpoa-tower-crypto-park-water-theme-park-cryptocurrency-mining-tehran-iran-06-01-2019/

Funny how it’s all happening in Iran, the last bastion of technology, innovation and reliable reporting.

Flowers for QAnon fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 30, 2020

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Slumpy posted:



You can just google "who made millions on bitcoin" or "who became a millionaire from bitcoin" and get a buncha articles.

How many of them actually cashed out and weren’t theoretical gains?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019


Those are all theoretical. You proved my point :thunk:

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

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Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Slumpy posted:

I'm seeing a buncha arguments in this thread.


You linked that in a DIRECT response to me. Stop being disingenuous

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Slumpy posted:




There was more to that post you erased which was directed at you. Chill out king.


Seems like habitual liars sure like bitcoin. I didn’t erase any posts, kid.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Definitely Serph

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Donovan Trip posted:

completely reinvent ID, finance, insurance, and commerce within 5 years, but I don't think y'all would get it

Haven’t you smooth-brains been saying that for over a decade?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

wide stance posted:

I like how this can't happen because any half-baked client will set the fee automatically based on the state of mempool, or if it's crazy enough to let the user do it will have basic programming 101 sanity checks.

It’s always funny when bitcoiners say “X can’t happen for reasons” when X has already occurred multiple times in real life.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

TruthAboutTether posted:

The idea that tether will cause Bitcoin to collapse is one of those half-baked conspiracies that is an unholy spawn born from parents of paranoia and shitcoin propaganda. There was a lawsuit here in the US where one of the gov agencies, I forget which, sued bitfinex (who issues tether) for issuing unbacked tether loans to itself.

Following that lawsuit, it was revealed tether only had a backing of 74%. Bitfenix was basically printing their own money out of nowhere and then using that to purchase Bitcoin. They were ordered to stop that and carried on with their business.

Some people believe if tether were to collapse, for some reason bitcoin would too. This conspiracy revolves around th eidea there is no real demand for Bitcoin, it's all just tether and bitfinex making up money and pumping it.

Some people believe that if tether were to collapse, for some reason bitcoin would too. This conspiracy stems from the fallacious idea there is no real demand for Bitcoin, it's all just tether and Bitfinex making up money and pumping it. This is obviously absurd on its face, there is a ton of bitcoin demand, and were tether to fail people (who formerly held tether) would run TO bitcoin, not away from it.

Yeah, that court case is still going on. The SDNY is going to wreak them.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Any thoughts on the idea of shorting MicroStrategy?

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Ad by Khad posted:

US govt had no problem at all freezing and then seizing and then auctioning Ross's 6 digits of bits coin

They always say “you can’t do X”, when X has already occurred numerous times and is common knowledge. Smooth brains

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

xtal posted:

They seized them first, and it actually was incredibly difficult. Not only technologically, but because the agents kept stealing the coins.

vv: you're talking about rubber hose cryptography and you didn't invent it

They seized them, then froze them, they didn’t freeze them then seize them. Checkmate. -A Brain Genius

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

xtal posted:

Do you not see why the difference is important?

Explain why the difference is important in the case you suggested. Re: political dissidents

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Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

xtal posted:

Seizing before freezing means you need to take control of the currency (such as through physical access and coercion). With conventional centralized currencies Mr. Banker can freeze your assets with a mouse click at any time.

Who do you think tells the Mr. Banker to freeze assets? It’s the same people that will just directly seize your poo poo. Mr. Banker can’t freeze your yacht with a mouse click. Surely won’t stop the Gov from seizing it.

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