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Typo
Aug 19, 2009
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:




how could china do this to africa

this is actually pretty misleading: in a way that does not do justice to China's African anti-imperialist mutual assistance program, Cameroon for instance owes around 1/3 of its debt to China (much has now being forgiven).

But the more Chinese so called "debt", the better since they are getting the loan on much better terms than from neoliberal IMF. Also, repayment will keep the money in circulation within anti-imperialist bloc rather than being appropriated by international capital used for further oppression. Money will used by CPC for further development of productive forces, building of socialism in Africa for mutual benefit of both Chinese and African working classes.

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009
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Grapplejack posted:

China got a PLA base in Djibouti on the Bab-el-Mandeb straight near a US base thanks to belt and road; it's a great way to keep an eye on international commerce, gives them force projection in Africa, and lets them keep an eye on an important US base on the region. It's a massive win for Xi on all fronts for what is otherwise an extremely small upfront payment.

Which frankly is mutually beneficial and probably benefits Djibouti more than China. USA historically have used coup and dictators to impose capitalism and control Africa and Latin America. A Chinese base, built and maintained at great cost to the Chinese people, demonstrates China's commitment to protecting the African working class from neoliberal US imperialism.

Imagine if today, comrade Maduro had a PLA tank division in Venezuela who are well trained in armored warfare vs invading mercenaries and suppressing counter-revolutionary elements! USA would never dare to mount a coup as they are doing now!

Typo fucked around with this message at Mar 19, 2019 around 18:12

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012



Typo posted:

by the way, water margins is objectively the greatest of the four chinese classical works

The four great chinese classical works: Suikoden, Dynasty Warriors, Dragon Ball, and uhh... the fourth one

tino
Jun 4, 2018

blad blad blad

Nanomashoes posted:

The four great chinese classical works: Suikoden, Dynasty Warriors, Dragon Ball, and uhh... the fourth one

Still better than rear end Creed: Odyssey heh.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009





Buglord

interesting article about shen yun in the new yorker:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/c...rld-of-shen-yun

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/stat...751397858754561

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008


Typo posted:

China's African anti-imperialist mutual assistance program,

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

fuckin hell dude, read about the founding of the acheimenid dynasty, learn yourself something

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016
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don't know if I'd be celebrating a poll showing china's leadership as exactly 3% more popular than the donald trump / mike pence dream team

https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1108910984226193408

https://twitter.com/davidpaulk/stat...066917459816449

BBC posted:

The death toll in a huge blast at a chemical plant in eastern China has jumped to 47, with 90 badly injured, according to state news agency Xinhua.

Many neighbouring factories inside the industrial park caught fire after the explosion.

China's earthquake administration reported a tremor equivalent to 2.2-magnitude at the time of the blast.

The death toll makes it one of the country's worst industrial accidents in recent years.

The blast happened at about 14:50 local time (06:50 GMT) on Thursday at a plant in Yancheng, run by Tianjiayi Chemical.

According to Xinhua, a total of 640 people were sent to hospital. Many were in critical condition and dozens had severe injuries, the agency reports.

Images of the site showed a fireball exploding, billowing clouds enveloping the area, injured people, and damage to buildings.

The blast was so powerful that it knocked down factory buildings some distance away, trapping workers, according to local media.

Staff at the Henglida Chemical Factory, 3km (1.8 miles) from the explosion, said its roof collapsed as they fled, and windows and doors were blown out.

Provincial authorities said firefighters had to be brought in from across the province.

The fire was brought under control at around 03:00 local time on Friday, state TV said.

One woman, who gave her surname as Xiang, said she had been concerned about safety and pollution levels at the plant for some time.

"We knew we'd be blown up one day," said told AFP.

Reuters quoted local officials as saying there had been no abnormalities detected at the site before the blast, but that the province would be conducting emergency inspections of other chemical producers and warehouses.

Industrial accidents ranging from factory fires to mining disasters are common in China, often due to poorly enforced safety standards.

The biggest accident in recent years was the August 2015 Tianjin explosion, which killed more than 160 people and injured nearly 1,000.

The exact cause of Thursday's explosion is still under investigation. Tianjiayi Chemical, founded in 2007, has received six government penalties in the past over waste management and air pollution, according to the South China Morning Post.

President Xi Jinping has called for an "all-out effort" to aid the injured and said authorities must learn lessons from the blast prevent future accidents.

tino
Jun 4, 2018

blad blad blad

I have been listening to a lot more Europe news streams recently (DW, French24, Skynews, not BBC because the old farts don't make it accessible online). There are a lot more discussion of Bell and Road on Europe news than US. The US news outlet only cares about Huawei tariff Huawei.

When you think about it, Huawei is a (proxy) military competition. B&R is a trade competition.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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what's the deal with the South China Morning Post?

Typo
Aug 19, 2009
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gradenko_2000 posted:

what's the deal with the South China Morning Post?

It's an instance of Socialistic free speech, disproving western myths of suppression of such in China

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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quote:

Hey all,

So... some corrections and further explanations.

It was a government official who ordered the print run destroyed; it's not like Xi Jinping took notice and said destroy it. So it is true and correct to say that this was a government action. But in all likelihood, it was a dumbass local official who got nervous when he saw certain images inside the book.

I had at times said the book was burned, but probably the book was pulped. I misunderstood the salesman who talked to me about it and I got an idea stuck in my mind. And as others have pointed out, burning is the proper response because that is how you deal with books that contain dangerous secret ;-)

We got our money back. We will have a new printer by the end of the week. Backers will get the book. And for backers that did not get the PDF, please send me message via Kickstarter to let me know.

Some have asked what content the Chinese official found sensitive. The Sassoon Files contains photographic images of Zhou Enlai, Chiang Kai-shek, Empress Dowager Cixi, Big Eared Du, and other historical figures. It contains images of Mythos monsters, including an incarnation of a god which appears to have nipples. It contains images of the flag of the Republic of China; that flag is shown on TV in historical TV show, but it's also the flag of the Republic of China on Taiwan. It has a fake historical poster of PLA soldiers fighting the good fight against Cthulhu. In it's textual content, it includes story-elements of time travel, reincarnation, interactions with Christian cultists (or Christians who think they are Christian but are worshiping something else), possession, alien serial murderers, and world-ending plagues (that originate in China).

So there is a little bit of content that would make the Chinese government official nervous about allowing this to be published in China through official distribution channels. But this did not matter in the past nor should have mattered now because the book was made for export and in the past that was not checked.

tino
Jun 4, 2018

blad blad blad

quote:

PLA fighting against Cthulhu.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

What actually transpires beneath the veil of an event horizon? Decent people shouldn't think too much about that.


That seems like a particularly bad book to print in China, even if it was all for export.

Lol at the author for being too cheap to use a US printer.

edit: one of the comments online said they should have packaged the book in a box with dice. Then it would be a product (board game) instead of a book, and no one would give a poo poo. lmao.

sincx fucked around with this message at Mar 26, 2019 around 18:36

Typo
Aug 19, 2009
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tino posted:

PLA fighting against Cthulhu.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004



WTF I love being owned by China now.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012

POTTY TIME


Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/...203319702749186

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016
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more like carl nah

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014






starting to think he pissed off the falun gong or something

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014







lol

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016
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the vast cyberconspiracy against Friend of the War Nerd Pod carl zha, orchestrated by the shadowy hand of (((big uigher)))

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016
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quote:

BAN 03/26/19 08:12pm Fallen Hamprince Long overdue. You contribute nothing to these forums and it's a running joke how irritating and stupid you are. Everyone wants you to gently caress off, so, do. R. Guyovich R. Guyovich

touched a concentration-camp-shaped nerve i guess

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005






those tickets for shen yun are really burning a hole in his pocket

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


Fallen Hamprince posted:

touched a concentration-camp-shaped nerve i guess

pathetic lmao

how long were you actually banned? like, 30 seconds? you've overplayed your hand, now i know how to raise $10 for the forums anytime i want

Typo
Aug 19, 2009
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I must object to banning of hamprince, while his posts are stupid, they are so stupid as to discredit the very exploitotive anti china capitalist order he stands for! He is a "useful" idiot who should be encouraged to post more to discredit liberal ideology!

Typo
Aug 19, 2009
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百花齊放,百家爭鳴

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007



Bip Roberts posted:

those tickets for shen yun are really burning a hole in his pocket

ten thousand years of podcasts reborn
e: gently caress i confused the mao quote and the Falun Gong slogan

Grapplejack fucked around with this message at Mar 27, 2019 around 02:07

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


Typo posted:

百花齊放,百家爭鳴

肃清反革命分子的问题是敌我矛盾的斗争问题。在人民内部,有些人对于肃反问题的看法,也有一些不同。有两种人的意见,和我们的意见不相同。有右倾思想的人不分敌我,认敌为我。广大群众认为是敌人的人,他们却认为是朋友。有左倾思想的人则把敌我矛盾扩大化,以至把某些人民内部的矛盾也看做敌我矛盾,把某些本来不是反革命的人也看作反革命。这两种看法都是错误的,都不能正确地处理肃反问题,也不能正确地估计我们的肃反工作。

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007



Why are chinese periods circles, I've always wondered that. Is it a calligraphy thing?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Lipstick Apathy

Hamprince really diggin' into that Lowtax spine fund.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


Grapplejack posted:

Why are chinese periods circles, I've always wondered that. Is it a calligraphy thing?

I'd think so. Making a dot is harder to do with a brush compared to a quill or pen. Doing the motion one would use to make a period ends up resembling a comma rather than a period.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


Grapplejack posted:

Why are chinese periods circles, I've always wondered that. Is it a calligraphy thing?

i think it's a combination of that and making sure they're visibly periods and not part of another character.

GreyjoyBastard
Mar 28, 2010

"Says Chu?"



R. Guyovich posted:

pathetic lmao

how long were you actually banned? like, 30 seconds? you've overplayed your hand, now i know how to raise $10 for the forums anytime i want

counterrevolutionary bureaucrat extorts 'fines' from the proletariat to support the rentier class

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



on the one hand, homex has mentioned that he wants nothing to do with moderating this subforum and defending Uncle Xi is lol

on the other hand, hamprince did make a terrible post, and furthermore

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011
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nvm I'm dumb

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Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017



what's a good, entry level book for someone wanting to understand china's current political economy? emphasis on entry level.

i know Cracking the China Conundrum by Yukon Huang was mentioned itt. is that a good place to start?

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

What actually transpires beneath the veil of an event horizon? Decent people shouldn't think too much about that.

Finicums Wake posted:

what's a good, entry level book for someone wanting to understand china's current political economy? emphasis on entry level.

i know Cracking the China Conundrum by Yukon Huang was mentioned itt. is that a good place to start?

I liked The Party by Richard McGregor, but that book probably could use an update for the Xi era.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


Finicums Wake posted:

what's a good, entry level book for someone wanting to understand china's current political economy? emphasis on entry level.

i know Cracking the China Conundrum by Yukon Huang was mentioned itt. is that a good place to start?

the china watcher freaks love elizabeth economy's the third revolution but i started reading it and there were some elementary-level errors so gently caress that

cracking the china conundrum is pretty good though. there's a book coming out in june about the resurgence of maoism that might be decent

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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R. Guyovich posted:

elizabeth economy

yes but what about freddy finance and wally street

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010


R. Guyovich posted:

there's a book coming out in june about the resurgence of maoism that might be decent

Title?

e: found it

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