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Didn't thee Armenian army lost the war? They are blaming the president now?
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Feb 25, 2021 11:57
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Top City Homo posted:More tall tales out of North Korea quote:For two former prisoners of war who were forced to work in the mines there has been some hope, however. They won a landmark legal victory after Seoul Central District Court ordered North Korea and its leader, Kim Jong-un, to pay them $17,600 (£12,400) in damages for holding them against their will and forcing them to work in the mines. this is such a pathetic number in comparison to the scale of abuse described in the article it suggests that either the case presented at trial was significantly different from the one in the article or that the judges simply didnt believe most of the charges and only granted a small judgment to establish precedent
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Feb 25, 2021 12:06
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Continuity NIP posted:100 million people now earning a dollar a day That is unironically an impressive benchmark for a country in the global south Also this isn't quite correct anyways. It would be 100 million people earning above or equal to two dollars a day Red and Black has issued a correction as of 13:15 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 12:56
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Some Guy TT posted:this is such a pathetic number in comparison to the scale of abuse described in the article it suggests that either the case presented at trial was significantly different from the one in the article or that the judges simply didnt believe most of the charges and only granted a small judgment to establish precedent What's the point of establishing precedent of SK court ordering NK to pay compensation? "Landmark legal victory"? stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 13:03 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 13:01
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BrainDance posted:hot take that's cuz both are poo poo Except China is rapidly coming from behind while the west just doesn't care. Pretending both are the same is just centrism.
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Feb 25, 2021 13:15
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BrainDance posted:hot take that's cuz both are poo poo at least one is making a systemic effort to help people. one’s doing a Self Improvement while the other is doing a No Growth
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Feb 25, 2021 15:14
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Junkozeyne posted:Except China is rapidly coming from behind while the west just doesn't care. Pretending both are the same is just centrism. yeah china is going to be Star Trek in 20 years if they keep up the pace of progress. the west hasn't made progress in 50 years
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Feb 25, 2021 15:15
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BrainDance posted:hot take that's cuz both are poo poo
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Feb 25, 2021 15:35
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stephenthinkpad posted:Was he also kind of a playboy (before turning religious) like Imran Khan? He’s always been married to Jinkee but has admitted to being unfaithful in the past, I want to say before the fourth Marquez fight (you know, the one where he got KO’d in spectacular fashion). They have reconciled. He did say he had a party habit but it was ignored because there are very few world champs who haven’t enjoyed their status.
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Feb 25, 2021 15:40
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BrainDance posted:hot take that's cuz both are poo poo what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!"
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Feb 25, 2021 16:43
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i wonder how many people the USA has lifted out of poverty in the same amount of time
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Feb 25, 2021 16:53
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" "them yeller folks cant be better than us" mentality or some poo poo or them "chinese commies are evil therefore cant be doing things that are good for their citizens" Agrajag has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 16:57
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" lol china has a lot of people poorer than most americans. checkmate, socialists.
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Feb 25, 2021 16:59
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stephenthinkpad posted:Didn't thee Armenian army lost the war? They are blaming the president now? The army still has the guns. https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1364897944420384773?s=20 https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1364920330129670149?s=20 This guy is on the ground in Yerevan.
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Feb 25, 2021 17:00
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" The kind that sees an incredible amount of poverty still in China, with the party directly sabotaging what could actually help, and doesn't wanna pat them on the back because their media says how great a job they're doing. For the same reason I don't shout with joy when the state department releases anything saying all the 'wonderful' things America is doing. Agrajag posted:"them yeller folks cant be better than us" mentality or some poo poo Wow... Gross
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Feb 25, 2021 17:04
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BrainDance posted:The kind that sees an incredible amount of poverty still in China, with the party directly sabotaging what could actually help, what do you think the party is sabotaging that could actually help
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Feb 25, 2021 17:15
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" I was watching DW news today and they reported the China poverty elimination program and they immediately asked the question "yeah but is it sustainable?" Oh it's not sustainable? I guess they shouldn't do anything to the poorest part of the country then DW?
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Feb 25, 2021 17:15
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" Jesus christ, what forum do you think this is? This isn't people going 'oh man gently caress China' this is people with years of conditioning to take any shred of positive news about anything and just utterly poo poo on it for days while pointing out that the root causes of everything are still unaddressed. Any minimum wage increase that actually got passed in the US would be responded to by pointing out that we're still uber hosed and everything is spiraling down a toilet. All of those people living slightly less lovely lives will still die in agony like the rest of us and the fact that somehow! magically! the people in control of power in China happen to be wealthy and generally insulated from that kind of thing gets glossed over because the people in control of power in China 1) maybe know what the gently caress is up and 2) aren't as hell bent on killing their servants as our ruling class. For all the cheering every time they imprison one of their many billionaires they still loving have them and all of those people could've been lifted out of artificially defined poverty a hell of a lot sooner if the supposedly communist state had offed one and redistributed the wealth. But no, the same brains that can paint an endless line proving that everything they don't like is the shadowy hand of the CIA (THE CIA! The geniuses who just throw money at con artists who promise coups and have been hacked so many times they have what, three actually covert agents left? These guys are organizing things?), these same geniuses will use twisting skeins of logic to say no, seriously, China's leadership is playing the long game and infiltrating the system to destroy it from within, and once that happens they'll make everything better. and yeah, the people in charge of China are smart, and they are clearly way more capable of handling things then the US government, and they have a good trajectory, and that doesn't make them the loving good guys. It means they're capable tyrants unlike our gibbering idiot tyrants. I wish the people of China the absolute best and I hope as many of them get as comfortable as possible before they drown like everybody else while their leadership suspiciously remains protected and comfortable.
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Feb 25, 2021 17:16
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" the same people who saw that Anthony Edwards dunk this weekend and were like “but he’s 0/7 from three!!”
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Feb 25, 2021 17:19
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Benagain posted:Jesus christ, what forum do you think this is? This isn't people going 'oh man gently caress China' it is. quote:this is people with years of conditioning to take any shred of positive news about anything and just utterly poo poo on it for days while pointing out that the root causes of everything are still unaddressed. Any minimum wage increase that actually got passed in the US would be responded to by pointing out that we're still uber hosed and everything is spiraling down a toilet. All of those people living slightly less lovely lives will still die in agony like the rest of us and the fact that somehow! magically! the people in control of power in China happen to be wealthy and generally insulated from that kind of thing gets glossed over because the people in control of power in China 1) maybe know what the gently caress is up and 2) aren't as hell bent on killing their servants as our ruling class. which subreddit is this take from?
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Feb 25, 2021 17:38
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iODDxjp936A https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/status/1362980387245334534
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Feb 25, 2021 17:41
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gradenko_2000 posted:The poverty line only amounting to little over 2 bucks a day would be a better own on China if it wasn't for the small detail that the West can't even hurdle that benchmark either so let's flip this one with something the entire West fawned over when it happened here: bolsa-família, one of Lula's major programs of social aid back when he was president, gives today a value of R$190, or 34.49 US dollars in today's exchange rate, per month. yet, Os Efeitos do Programa Bolsa Família sobre a Pobreza e a Desigualdade: um balanço dos primeiros quinze anos posted:The goal of the study is to evaluate the targeting of the Bolsa Família Programme and its impacts on the reduction of poverty and inequality. To that end, we have used data from the 2001-2015 standard National Household Sample Survey (Pesquisa Nacional por Amostra de Domicílios – PNAD) and from the 2016 and the 2017 longitudinal PNAD. The results support the findings of previous studies. Bolsa Família is by far the most progressive transfer ever enacted by the federal government. Its excellent targeting explains why, despite its small budget (0.5 per cent of GDP) and its limited representation in household income as reflected by PNAD (0.7 per cent), the programme has such a significant impact on poverty reduction: its transfers reduce poverty by 15 per cent and extreme poverty by 25 per cent. Dynamic decompositions of the Gini coefficient suggest that the programme was responsible for the 10 per cent of the reduction in inequality between 2001 and 2015. From 2001 to 2006 (the period during which the programme grew most significantly), Bolsa Família accounted for almost 17 per cent of the observed reduction in inequality. Findings suggest that the targeting of the Programme is already very good and that the main restraining factor of the Programme’s impact on poverty is not targeting, but rather the low value of the transfers. so, when this was happening, everyone was gawking over the "absolute success" this was, Obama praised Lula publicly in front of the world, experts in the EU considered it a reference work case for their own strategies, etc etc. What nobody there wanted to admit was that a federal aid program, with straight cash transfers that had no-questions-asked, with a laser focus on people who needed it the most, was very modest to maintain, didn't generate any sort of "moral hazard" in large scale and generated a powerful economic feedback that managed to get a lot of people out of poverty and misery and the question that started to haunt when the G8 was praising Lula back then was: "if Brazil can do it, what's stopping us from doing that?" (China, btw, was so impressed with the program they sent CCP scholars and academicians to study and work with the Brazilian govt at the time, to help develop their own strategy)
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Feb 25, 2021 17:42
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Yeah, direct payments and targeted spending in the community sounds a lot like what China has been doing, going by the testimony in their recent documentary on the program. https://youtu.be/nuaJGPZCBYU
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Feb 25, 2021 17:50
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if they got rid of poverty who would work at starbucks? if there was no homeless people on the streets than who would i look down on when thinking of my own miserable existence? no i am afraid the USA already has the correct level of poverty and we shouldn't try to decrease it
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Feb 25, 2021 17:51
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Rutibex posted:if they got rid of poverty who would work at starbucks? if there was no homeless people on the streets than who would i look down on when thinking of my own miserable existence? remember when lindsay grahm came out and said that if we give too much stimmy money to frontline workers/nurses theyd all quit? real mask off moment there
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Feb 25, 2021 17:54
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Rutibex posted:if they got rid of poverty who would work at starbucks? if there was no homeless people on the streets than who would i look down on when thinking of my own miserable existence? the people earning less than two bucks a day aren't at starbucks. this program is to lift them up so they're able to work at starbucks
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Feb 25, 2021 18:15
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Not So Fast posted:Yeah, direct payments and targeted spending in the community sounds a lot like what China has been doing, going by the testimony in their recent documentary on the program. i'm watching this documentary and i am super jealous of these rural chinese people who have their own houses and more living space than i've ever dreamed of. this guy is supposedly poor and all i can think is "drat i wish i could live in a cave i dug myself"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuaJGPZCBYU&t=1117s
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Feb 25, 2021 19:26
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https://twitter.com/carlzha/status/1365057384238903296?s=21 lmao
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Feb 25, 2021 22:55
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Diplomatic Anal Swab Exception Passport
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Feb 25, 2021 23:27
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swab me daddy Xi
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Feb 25, 2021 23:28
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Rutibex posted:i'm watching this documentary and i am super jealous of these rural chinese people who have their own houses and more living space than i've ever dreamed of. this guy is supposedly poor and all i can think is "drat i wish i could live in a cave i dug myself" The value of what people produce for their own consumption is never part of the "...makes X dollars a year" figure. It is always assumed that everyone is an alienated worker whose only source of support is a paycheck.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:30
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Would you rather be a peasant or a proletarian.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:39
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:The value of what people produce for their own consumption is never part of the "...makes X dollars a year" figure. It is always assumed that everyone is an alienated worker whose only source of support is a paycheck. Liquidating the feudal landlord class and rural land collectivization/redistribution was literally the whole force behind the Communist revolution, but sexpat English writers churn out dozens of articles a day about apartment prices in downtown Beijing/Shanghai. You'd think their Chinese girlfriends might clue them in about it or something.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:43
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mila kunis posted:what kind of brain does it require to take any loving news about china including ones where they're making a genuine effort to improve people's lives and pivot immediately to "china bad!!" This is your brain on GBS. Not even once.
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Feb 26, 2021 00:04
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Atrocious Joe posted:Would you rather be a peasant or a proletarian. Well... maybe I could be like a kind of a peasant where I own my land but I don't technically do ALL the work by myself 
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Feb 26, 2021 00:08
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Yeah I hope things like cheap solar power and 5g/6g communication liberate people from working/living in the cities, and the real estate value will slowly go back to the scenic places instead of concentrate extremely in the 1st tier world cities.
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Feb 26, 2021 00:09
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imagine being on an english language forum and saying anything other that gently caress america
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Feb 26, 2021 00:10
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stephenthinkpad posted:Yeah I hope things like cheap solar power and 5g/6g communication liberate people from working/living in the cities, and the real estate value will slowly go back to the scenic places instead of concentrate extremely in the 1st tier world cities. do people mainly live in cities for cheap power and 5g coverage?
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Feb 26, 2021 00:14
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:The value of what people produce for their own consumption is never part of the "...makes X dollars a year" figure. It is always assumed that everyone is an alienated worker whose only source of support is a paycheck. seriously! i have been watching videos from a rural chinese grandpa who chills out and does woodworking projects all day for his grandson. would grandpa amu count as a poor making less than $2 per day? i mean i assume he sells this stuff, but lets suppose he just made things for his grandson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqpZ_enV9pg i wish i was a chinese peasant 
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Feb 26, 2021 00:16
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Atrocious Joe posted:Would you rather be a peasant or a proletarian. i suppose that really would depend on where and when lol
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