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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Rutibex posted:

i wish i was a chinese peasant :(

I don't, because I can only speak English

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

indigi posted:

do people mainly live in cities for cheap power and 5g coverage?

I am talking about remote working and studying.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
what does it mean when the swab comes out brown

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/LavenderNRed/status/1365077444655480832?s=20

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1365089449961345026?s=20

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
lol

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Rutibex posted:

i wonder how many people the USA has lifted out of poverty in the same amount of time

u see the world bank has listed extreme poverty at 1.69 dollars a day but china lists extreme poverty at 1.39 dollars a day and that makes china disingenuous :smuggo:

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Rutibex posted:

seriously! i have been watching videos from a rural chinese grandpa who chills out and does woodworking projects all day for his grandson. would grandpa amu count as a poor making less than $2 per day? i mean i assume he sells this stuff, but lets suppose he just made things for his grandson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqpZ_enV9pg

i wish i was a chinese peasant :(

I was gunna say you can buy some dirt and get to whittlin' here in the USA but

there is a weird abundance of rural social media channels that make living in the chinese countryside look wholesome & fulfilling that I can't think of an answer to in the USA. Rural poverty in the US is really crushing & our mega farms and ranches are far from wholesome

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Antonymous posted:

I was gunna say you can buy some dirt and get to whittlin' here in the USA but

there is a weird abundance of rural social media channels that make living in the chinese countryside look wholesome & fulfilling that I can't think of an answer to in the USA. Rural poverty in the US is really crushing & our mega farms and ranches are far from wholesome

the stuff out of china today is a lot like the stuff us boomers remember about their grandparents

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe

Top City Homo posted:

u see the world bank has listed extreme poverty at 1.69 dollars a day but china lists extreme poverty at 1.39 dollars a day and that makes china disingenuous :smuggo:

Everyone's against incrementalism until a country they like does it.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
The Chinese civilization is an agricultural civilization, has long history of celebrating rural life. Living contented rural life is a big part of Taoism.

America doesn't have such a rural culture, your local countryside culture is defined by your distance from your Walmart Supercenter, and rural houses/local dishes/accents are pretty similar everywhere. You barely stole the land from the Indians and haven't had time to develop local favors.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

it’s kinda funny how western lefties idealize the Chinese rural poor

there was a Chinese propaganda “follow-up” piece recently about a migrant worker who went viral a decade ago for looking like this
and they try to do a puff piece on how she and her town are doing so much better while mentioning in passing she lost two kids to illness including the one in the photo

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
its not like the CCP is encouraging people to live contented lives in the countryside. they are trying to get as many people into cities working wage labor as possible. that propaganda documentary even had a rural family that was complaining
"they took our farm from us and make us live in this apartment. except they only gave one of our family a very low paid job, and now we cant grow our own food. we need to buy everything from the grocery store now"

then there is a scene with a CCP party member who is like
"they are used to a different lifestyle in rural life. but we will educate them and in one generation they will be adapted to this new lifestyle"

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

shrike82 posted:

it’s kinda funny how western lefties idealize the Chinese rural poor

people with arable land and without arable land are the same and lefties idealize them all yes siree

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

you can talk about rising tides etc with the conversion of the Chinese peasant class into urban wage laborers but it’s crushing work whether you’re working a electronics factory line with dorms that have suicide netting or a middle class IT guy working 996 hours

the US is a failed state but you guys seriously don’t know how much wealth and luxury is concentrated in the West if you’re opining about wanting to be born by RNG in China versus the US

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
being rural poor sounds bad and shouldn't be idealized, good thing the chinese government is making a determined effort to alleviate it and improve their living standards.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
to be clear i said i want to live like Grandpa Amu, not a shenzhen factory worker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbe9oDWNSqk

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1365320338767282178?s=21

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010



new tim and eric character

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

The problem was that the Emperor backed the wrong fascists!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

the stuff out of china today is a lot like the stuff us boomers remember about their grandparents
i like the official optimism. reminds me of hulk hogan's "real american" and kenny loggins in the 80s except with red flags. gonna charge up and shove it into overdrive and then rock you like a hurricane like what the U.S. did to the soviets. tables turned. checkmate. taking you right into the danger zone. you put your left foot in, you take your left foot out, you do the hokey pokey and that's what it's all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsrbgZw7yc

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
if you want me to believe in socialism, you gotta go to the max. no half measures here. there has gotta be synchronized dancers with red flags that do domino effect moves as they sing in unison about merging with the motherland and turning iron into steel. we solved extreme poverty? pfft, we're just getting started. we're not going to slow down for a second, we're gonna power up even more... and we've already got a plan.

authentic communists go for broke and remind themselves that "it is fear that guards the vineyards," and the haters and losers are growing very afraid indeed.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

THS posted:

what do you think the party is sabotaging that could actually help
To me, most of it comes down to ineffective anti-corruption measures, the labor bureaus rarely enforcing labor law, and the ACFTU. I feel like they’re probably all related.

The anti-corruption stuff is probably the biggest point, because it’s one of those situations where they say one thing, they plaster everywhere about corruption crackdowns, and you hear about some big cases. But, in local government, it’s rampant and ridiculously transparent, like absolutely shameless stuff. That’s the poo poo that has a bigger impact on people’s lives, the central government has the ability to make an actual dent in it but, they don’t... Just those big cases that I guess look good in news articles but don’t even make up a percent of a percent of the actual problem. I’m kinda cynical and have my own ideas of what’s really going on but I dunno.
The ACFTU and the labor bureaus are supposed to prevent worker exploitation, but the ACFTU is just sorta a whatever thing, you know how it goes, actual workers have no say in it and it rarely actually stands up for them, especially not rural workers who migrate for their jobs. They get treated like poo poo, paid like poo poo, and the party leaves them no real means to address this. Sure, they can march to Beijing but, lol. If the party was actually doing what it should be doing for them, Wu Guijin wouldn’t have even been arrested in the first place, that wouldn’t have even been news.

I’m also worried about the rise in food prices over the past couple years. I don’t get why people aren’t really talking about this here, because it’s definitely something Chinese people that, apparently, people want the best for, are really concerned about. When you are making <2000rmb a month, that is some serious poo poo. I’m not gonna say the party is sabotaging anything there though, because I really just don’t know. I have no idea what they could do about that, at least in the short term. And also, for how much poo poo goes into Shanghai, what rural China is getting is absolute scraps. I don’t know why I should celebrate that.

I didn’t not expect the “but America” stuff, and if I was talking about America I literally couldn’t agree more. Like I said, I’m from the place with the poison water. Kwame just got loving pardoned of all things. I think America is the most dangerous thing right now for the entire world. But, this is about domestic China issues. Believe it or not, a place can exist without its entire existence based on how it relates to America. I know only seeing non-white countries by how they relate to America is nothing new, but it’s a super lovely thing to do. And, that seems to be half this threads perspective on China, not as a real group of humans you actually give a poo poo about, but as an other that only exists because America exists. It’s borderline noble savage stuff, at least the kind of thinking involved. I think this should be pretty obvious for anyone who cares about western imperialism. About as bad as;

Rutibex posted:

i'm watching this documentary and i am super jealous of these rural chinese people who have their own houses and more living space than i've ever dreamed of. this guy is supposedly poor and all i can think is "drat i wish i could live in a cave i dug myself"
:negative:
Fetishizing an idealized image of a people, which, when the reality of it is seriously bad, isn’t just a neutral weird thing but actively harmful. I think anyone who’s been to rural China can tell you how rough it is, how the majority of it is not really something you’d “dream of.” Like, just go hang out in Fugou in Zhoukou for a while, it’s not even that rural it’s on the high speed train line. And to act like it isn’t is really only going to make it harder for positive change to happen. The fact that you'd just take media like that at face value, just because it comes from the country you fetishize, (and only because of what it is in relation to America) I don't even know that's wild to me.

Like, I’ll pat the party on the back when things are actually not lovely.

stephenthinkpad posted:

America doesn't have such a rural culture, your local countryside culture is defined by your distance from your Walmart Supercenter, and rural houses/local dishes/accents are pretty similar everywhere. You barely stole the land from the Indians and haven't had time to develop local favors.

America actually does, (The Jeffersonian ideal yeoman farmer bullshit) but it's as fake as the Chinese one.

BrainDance has issued a correction as of 07:15 on Feb 27, 2021

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
it really does seem like they could be doing more for workers and farmers, but aren’t for whatever reason

THS
Sep 15, 2017

BrainDance posted:

To me, most of it comes down to ineffective anti-corruption measures, the labor bureaus rarely enforcing labor law, and the ACFTU. I feel like they’re probably all related.

The anti-corruption stuff is probably the biggest point, because it’s one of those situations where they say one thing, they plaster everywhere about corruption crackdowns, and you hear about some big cases. But, in local government, it’s rampant and ridiculously transparent, like absolutely shameless stuff. That’s the poo poo that has a bigger impact on people’s lives, the central government has the ability to make an actual dent in it but, they don’t... Just those big cases that I guess look good in news articles but don’t even make up a percent of a percent of the actual problem. I’m kinda cynical and have my own ideas of what’s really going on but I dunno.
The ACFTU and the labor bureaus are supposed to prevent worker exploitation, but the ACFTU is just sorta a whatever thing, you know how it goes, actual workers have no say in it and it rarely actually stands up for them, especially not rural workers who migrate for their jobs. They get treated like poo poo, paid like poo poo, and the party leaves them no real means to address this. Sure, they can march to Beijing but, lol. If the party was actually doing what it should be doing for them, Wu Guijin wouldn’t have even been arrested in the first place, that wouldn’t have even been news.

I’m also worried about the rise in food prices over the past couple years. I don’t get why people aren’t really talking about this here, because it’s definitely something Chinese people that, apparently, people want the best for, are really concerned about. When you are making <2000rmb a month, that is some serious poo poo. I’m not gonna say the party is sabotaging anything there though, because I really just don’t know. I have no idea what they could do about that, at least in the short term. And also, for how much poo poo goes into Shanghai, what rural China is getting is absolute scraps. I don’t know why I should celebrate that.

I didn’t not expect the “but America” stuff, and if I was talking about America I literally couldn’t agree more. Like I said, I’m from the place with the poison water. Kwame just got loving pardoned of all things. I think America is the most dangerous thing right now for the entire world. But, this is about domestic China issues. Believe it or not, a place can exist without its entire existence based on how it relates to America. I know only seeing non-white countries by how they relate to America is nothing new, but it’s a super lovely thing to do. And, that seems to be half this threads perspective on China, not as a real group of humans you actually give a poo poo about, but as an other that only exists because America exists. It’s borderline noble savage stuff, at least the kind of thinking involved. I think this should be pretty obvious for anyone who cares about western imperialism. About as bad as;

Fetishizing an idealized image of a people, which, when the reality of it is seriously bad, isn’t just a neutral weird thing but actively harmful. I think anyone who’s been to rural China can tell you how rough it is, how the majority of it is not really something you’d “dream of.” Like, just go hang out in Fugou in Zhoukou for a while, it’s not even that rural it’s on the high speed train line. And to act like it isn’t is really only going to make it harder for positive change to happen. The fact that you'd just take media like that at face value, just because it comes from the country you fetishize, (and only because of what it is in relation to America) I don't even know that's wild to me.

Like, I’ll pat the party on the back when things are actually not lovely.


America actually does, (The Jeffersonian ideal yeoman farmer bullshit) but it's as fake as the Chinese one.

good post, thanks. i also dont like the weird fetishization of rural life that seems very fake and privileged. i think most people have vague understandings of chinese domestic issues because this is an english speaking forum largely filled with americans so, there’s a huge amount of disconnect necessarily with that. the GBS thread and honestly a lot of internet discussion is filled with straight up racism so it’s easier to gloss over people glossing china over

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i'm very privileged by global standards and the fact that my grandfather owned a car means my family is part of a small fraction of the world. very likely wouldn't have been the case for the grandfather of a PRC citizen of my age. and i have to remind myself when something chaotic happens like the infrastructure going out for a week, well, for huge numbers of people in a lot of countries, some state of freefall is a normal part of their life. it's easy to take things like basic infrastructure for granted.

i've known people who've worked as journalists in really troubled countries, and one would see things like a village fleeing into the woods for a week because an armed group fired off some shots in the area, and then they came back a week later hauling all kinds of vegetables and animals they harvested while living in the woods, and then reopened their shops and sold the veggies and meat like nothing happened. well that was the situation for the grandparents of chinese people my age when the country was just in a state of war and anarchy. but people are very adaptable, and every place has unique characteristics, so the question becomes -- once you have some stability and basic infrastructure in place -- how do you then specialize, like a town that has a certain local crop they can harvest and ship to cities and make some money and get out of poverty. and only they will really know what that is, they'll know the characteristics of their local area much better than i do or some central planners.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

THS posted:

good post, thanks. i also dont like the weird fetishization of rural life that seems very fake and privileged. i think most people have vague understandings of chinese domestic issues because this is an english speaking forum largely filled with americans so, there’s a huge amount of disconnect necessarily with that. the GBS thread and honestly a lot of internet discussion is filled with straight up racism so it’s easier to gloss over people glossing china over

the gbs thread is truly terrible. i go over and read a few pages every now and then and last time i was there a guy got banned for calling for the mass murder of han chinese people. several other people agreed with him and didn’t get even probed, and a mod came in and said he thinks the banned guy is overall a good poster and would unban him if he said he’s sorry

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


Nice little new yorker article that plays all the hits

https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/china-xinjiang-prison-state-uighur-detention-camps-prisoner-testimony

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

I just learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gong and Zhang Hongbao.

quote:

Zhang Hongbao (simplified Chinese: 张宏堡; traditional Chinese: 張宏堡) (5 January 1954 in Harbin, Heilongjiang, China,[1] – 31 July 2006, Arizona, USA) was the founder and spiritual leader of Zhong Gong, a qigong-based system of practices and beliefs. He was also a wealthy businessman, and a self-proclaimed leader of the Chinese democracy movement.

He died in a motor vehicle accident in Arizona in July 2006. After his death, no significant activity by Zhong Gong has been reported.
Biography[edit]
Early life[edit]

Zhang was born in 1954 in Harbin, where his family trade was coal-mining. Zhang spent ten years during the Cultural Revolution in a state farm in Heilongjiang, during which time he started practising Qigong. In 1977, he was admitted to the Harbin School of Metallurgy. On leaving, he joined the Communist Party and became a physics teacher in a mining region. Zhang gained entrance into the Beijing University of Science and Technology in 1985 where he studied Economic management.[2] Palmer, citing Ji Yi, said Zhang obtained only mediocre grades as a student, but he was interested in a diverse range of modules from Law to Chinese and Western Medicine. He also signed on at the Chinese Qigong Further Education Academy. During this time he developed a style of Qigong which was based on automation, physics, relativity, bionics, and with distinctive use of mechanical engineering jargon. After graduation, he became a paid qigong researcher at a university, where he was to give his first public demonstration of the "Extraordinary Powers" he had acquired.[2]
Zhong Gong[edit]

In 1987, he founded Zhong Gong,[3] launching it on the auspicious date of 8 August.[2] Palmer, citing Ji Yi's 10-million-selling hagiography The Great Qigong Master Comes Down From the Mountains (1990), says that Zhang gave two-week-long Qigong workshops which received national coverage in the People's Daily. Among the over a thousand people who participated were prominent academics such as the President of Beijing University, who were reportedly able to capture and emit Qi. Having won over the academic community, Zhang also gained acceptance within the China Academy of Science, and other sections of the scientific community. Furthermore, he became a media celebrity after one workshop was featured in a three-minute news segment on CCTV. He also gained credibility within the media and political elites.[2]

The movement claimed 34 million followers, 120,000 employees, 30 life cultivation bases, and 100,000 "branches" at its peak.[4]

According to Perry, in the early 1990s, Zhang and his followers withdrew to Qingchengshan, deep in Sichuan, where Zhang would reorganise his activities into commercial enterprises, the flagship of which was the Qilin Group, based in Qilin City.[5] Cunningham states the group was made up of some 60 companies headquartered in Tianjin. The group reportedly employed 100,000 workers, mostly in qigong-related education, publication and health-product ventures.[6]
Criminal allegations and exile[edit]

Unlike Li Hongzhi, founder of Falun Gong, who disavowed political ambition, Zhang Hongbao positively embraced it.[7]

A close disciple defected from the group and wrote a scathing exposé alleging that Zhang was a fraud and had illicit sex with followers. Independent Chinese sceptic Sima Nan alleged that Zhang was a rapist and may even have been responsible for the murders of some former followers.[8] The Chinese Government issued a warrant for his arrest on 7 June 2000, and a statement calling for his return to face four counts of rape between 1990 and 1991, and two counts of using forged travel documents between 1993 and 1994.[1] The Chinese authorities allege Zhang was in possession of a bogus identity card in the name of Wang Xingxiang, a Han male born on 8 August 1953.[1]
Life in the United States[edit]

Zhang disappeared from public view in 1995 in light of increased criticism of Zhong Gong. Zhang together with his associate and companion, Yan Qingxin, arrived in the American protectorate of Guam in February 2000 without a visa, and applied for political asylum in the United States.[8] While awaiting transfer to the US, Zhang went on hunger strike to press for his release from detention in Guam; several overseas Chinese dissident organizations—including the Free China Movement, the Chinese Democracy Party and the Joint Conference of Chinese Overseas Democracy Movement—organizing a press conference to support his cause.[9] Zhang was denied asylum by the United States, but was granted wrongful withholding, which prevented repatriation to China. After 13 months in detention in Guam, he secured the services of Robert Shapiro, who defended O.J. Simpson.[10] Shapiro claims credit for gaining the support of Trent Lott and Jesse Helms for Zhang's application.[10] Zhang was granted protection residence by the U.S. Board of Immigration Appeal in June 2001, reversing a previous ruling.[11]

In April, the China Federation Foundation (CFF) was founded with money from Zhang, and led by a dissident named Peng Ming. This group wanted to form an alternative government for China through the violent overthrow of the Communist government.[12] Zhang claimed that he planned this for many years, not for creating conditions for formal Political Asylum to avoid being expelled if convicted.

In what may have been a power struggle within the democratic China movement, Zhang subsequently fell out with other dissidents, including Yan Qingxin, his domestic partner for 12 years. Until September 2001, Yan was Zhong Gong's first lieutenant and "helped build the organization into a powerful entity that made billions of dollars". Yan filed a lawsuit on 26 June in Pasadena Superior Court accusing Zhang of assault, battery and false imprisonment,[13] and asked for damages of US$23 million.[4] Yan's sister, Qi Zhang, also a Chinese dissident, filed a suit in Pasadena in July 2003, accusing Zhang of crimes including racketeering and slander.[13] In total, from 2003 to 2005, Zhang was hit by an avalanche of 20–40 civil lawsuits with accusations from other plaintiffs. The arrest of Zhang led to division in the democracy movement.[7]

Zhang was arrested in March 2003 at his Pasadena mansion in connection with allegations made by his housekeeper, He Nanfang. Zhang was charged with four felonies, including kidnapping assault and false imprisonment with a deadly weapon.[14] If convicted, Zhang would have lost his protection status and been expelled from the United States. In the end, the felony charges in the He Nanfang case were reduced to one charge of battery, a misdemeanor, to which Zhang pleaded no contest on 22 April 2005.[7] On 28 February 2006, Zhang won a criminal case, and soon other lawsuits against him were lost or were successively withdrawn. Only one civil case and a labor compensation case remained.[15]
Death[edit]

He had become a non-person to the mainstream Western media.[12] Zhang's death, in a car accident in the United States at the age of 52, was a non-event which went unreported. At a highway intersection in northern Arizona, his car was crushed by tractor-trailer truck travelling towards it at 60 miles per hour on 31 July 2006.[12] Both he and his female driver, who was also his secretary, died. After Zhang's death, Zhong Gong almost disappeared from the public eye due to the internal friction.


lmao

so, what's the deal with the qigong movement that somehow got out of the party's control and resulted in, according to wikipedia, a land of grandmothers in cults?

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

QiAnon

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
I wonder how 'Americans tested by China for COVID-19 using most-accurate testing methods available' is being framed on Reddit by liberals...

>U.S. diplomats forced by China to undergo anal swab testing for Covid-19 after Biden raised "fundamental concerns" about Beijing's "coercive and unfair economic practices and human rights abuses in Xinjiang." [COVID-19] (nbcnews.com)

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

weak american diplomats unused to actually being tested for covid instead of left to die

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

oh no, not my butt!

e: just realized that meme is over a decade old and goons might not even remember it

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth
11 years of lurking+posting and i dont get the reference

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Protagorean posted:

11 years of lurking+posting and i dont get the reference
Fuckin noobs ITT

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Protagorean posted:

11 years of lurking+posting and i dont get the reference

conservative cartoonists used to be terrified that obamacare doctors were gonna make them get their buttholes checked

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Benagain posted:

Everyone's against incrementalism until a country they like does it.

no one actually does incrementalism

on the whole, the entire world except china, has gotten poorer

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

mawarannahr posted:

I just learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gong and Zhang Hongbao.


lmao

so, what's the deal with the qigong movement that somehow got out of the party's control and resulted in, according to wikipedia, a land of grandmothers in cults?

I'm more of a Yang Gang type of person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Jingyu

quote:


The Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army conducted a protracted campaign which threatened the stability of the Manchukuo regime and the Japanese colonial rule, especially during 1936 and 1937. By the beginning of 1937, it comprised eleven corps in three armies, estimated by the Japanese to be about 20,000 men. Lacking the troops and materiel to conduct full-scale conventional warfare, the army's strategies were primarily to form pockets of resistance in occupied areas to harass the Japanese troops and undermine their attempts at local administration, and to launch small surprise attacks to divert resources from Japan's advance into China Proper or against the Soviet Union after the border clashes of Chengkufeng (1938) and Battle of Khalkhin Gol (1939).[citation needed]

Yang twice commanded western marches that threatened Japanese lines of communication to Tieling and Fushun in Liaoning Province. From the latter half of 1938, Japan concentrated large numbers of its troops in Manchukuo with the mission of encircling Yang's army and placed a 10,000-yuan bounty on his head. By September 1938, the Japanese estimated that the Anti-Japanese Army was reduced to 10,000 men.[citation needed]

By 1940, the war was stalemated although Japan held most of the Manchurian coastal areas and the open country along the railroads, small forces of Chinese guerrillas fought doggedly on from the mountains and woodlands. The Kwantung Army then brought reinforcements into the Northeast with a plan for "maintaining order and mopping up anti-Japanese elements." They cut off the supply lines to the troops of the United Front, the Chinese soldiers persevered, frequently launching attacks that compelled the enemy to divert its main force from punitive expeditions against the Chinese forces

Yang led more than 40 engagements in Jilin Province, despite critically lacking supplies. In response, the Japanese committed a scorched earth strategy by routinely looting rural harvests, confiscating food from villages, and forcefully segregating civilians into "lawful settlements," in the attempt of depriving the resistance any means of supply. Large collaborationist patrols were also frequently deployed to inflict attrition on the guerrillas.[citation needed]

Yang and his men were closely encircled by 40,000 Japanese troops in January to mid-February 1940. Facing a dire situation, he organized his forces to disperse into small units and break out of the encirclement. His detachment of 60 troopers were betrayed to the Japanese by a staff officer on February 18. After the last two soldiers at his side were killed in action, Yang continued fighting alone for another 5 days. He was eventually cornered in a small forest by a large combined Japanese and collaborationist forces in the Mengjiang County (蒙江县), and was killed during fierce fighting by multiple shots from machineguns. It was reported that the Japanese troops, fearing Yang's famed marksmanship from previous encounters, refused to approach his body for a while after his death.[citation needed]

Unable to understand Yang's source of perseverance (Yang had not eaten for over 6 days), the Japanese ordered an autopsy after cutting off and preserving Yang's head. When they cut open Yang's stomach, they found only tree bark, cotton batting and grass roots within — not a single grain of rice. The Japanese commander at the scene, Ryuichiro Kishitani (岸谷隆一郎), was so shocked at the revelation that he "went silent, and appeared aged a lot within the next day." Kishitani committed seppuku after Japan's defeat, but wrote in his will that "His Majesty might be wrong in launching this war. China has steely soldiers like Yang Jingyu, and it would not fall."

The Japanese initially buried Yang's beheaded body carelessly in the wild. It was then rumored that the Japanese commander-in-chief in the area, General Shōtoku Nozoe (野副昌德), was having nightmares and feared that it was Yang's ghost. Panicked, Kishitani ordered his men to rebury the body properly with full cemetery ritual and military respect, honoring Yang — though an enemy — "a true warrior."[citation needed]

Yang's death was a great blow to his remaining troops, who turned their sorrow into anger. Over the next few months, Japanese forces increased their attacks and forced many of Yang's followers out into isolated areas in Manchuria or the Far Eastern territories of the Soviet Union.[citation needed]

After the end of the Second World War, Yang's severed head was recovered by the Communist forces, rejoined to his body, and reburied with full military honor. The Mengjiang County was also renamed to Jingyu County in his memory. Some traitors who betrayed Yang and contributed to his death were tracked down and executed. A national funeral was held in his honor after the establishment of the People's Republic of China, while Yang was extolled as a great and brave national hero

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

fart simpson posted:

the gbs thread is truly terrible. i go over and read a few pages every now and then and last time i was there a guy got banned for calling for the mass murder of han chinese people. several other people agreed with him and didn’t get even probed, and a mod came in and said he thinks the banned guy is overall a good poster and would unban him if he said he’s sorry

You get mindmelting takes when talking about China. China was brought up in the POS and people started talking about how Chinese people are very racist and how Chinese imperialism is a threat.

:laugh:

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