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The Hunt for Red September
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Apr 12, 2021 15:46
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https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1372962983131815942
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Apr 12, 2021 16:23
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why do Spain and France need so much HSR they’re freaking tiny
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Apr 12, 2021 16:46
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indigi posted:why do Spain and France need so much HSR they’re freaking tiny Maybe because it is generally useful and beneficial for the entire population, except car dealerships.
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Apr 12, 2021 16:56
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This graph is wrong, I don't think the US has any high speed rail at all
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Apr 12, 2021 17:17
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Grapplejack posted:This graph is wrong, I don't think the US has any high speed rail at all Depends on how you define high speed and rail The Amtrak does claim that it's acela express is highspeed but it's basing that on relative internal statistics. The acela doesnt have its own dedicated rails and can only hit about 150 mph max for a short while So america does have high speed rail by its own internal standards but these standards are pathetic by international standards
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Apr 12, 2021 17:44
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Yeah that 735km for the US is the entire Acela line, but only segments of the track line are capable of allowing high speed.
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Apr 12, 2021 17:47
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indigi posted:why do Spain and France need so much HSR they’re freaking tiny france and spain are a lot of things, but tiny ain't it lol france is twice the size of japan, yet they only have marginally more HSR
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Apr 12, 2021 18:02
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china investing a metric fuckton into infrastructure projects is the greatest reason why theyre gonna have a far better future than us imo
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Apr 12, 2021 18:20
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Agrajag posted:china investing a metric fuckton into infrastructure projects is the greatest reason why theyre gonna have a far better future than us imo all the aquaducts in the world ain't gonna do poo poo without actual aqua lmao
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Apr 12, 2021 18:25
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Truga posted:france and spain are a lot of things, but tiny ain't it lol France isn’t even as big as Texas that’s tiny Japan is also tiny
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Apr 12, 2021 18:46
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yes and they still don't have nearly enough HSR to cover all their population centres well, so what's your point lol
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Apr 12, 2021 18:52
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regular rail is fine. you can bike between French cities in like 25 minutes
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Apr 12, 2021 19:00
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indigi posted:regular rail is fine. you can bike between French cities in like 25 minutes Biking between Paris and Lyon at a relaxed 1054 km/h Have you considered the US joining other countries in train availability rather than the US pulling everyone down to car hell?
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Apr 12, 2021 19:13
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you use the high speed rail in Europe to get from one side of the continent to the other, not to commute lol
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Apr 12, 2021 19:14
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indigi posted:the bad guys still win in the end Ferrinus posted:point of order - if i recall correctly, the movie strongly implies that there's a lot more where the bugs came from and the humans are doomed in the long run in spite of their closing propaganda push I def prefer the reading that the humans are borked and getting a single brain bug is meaningless within the overall campaign
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Apr 12, 2021 19:34
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Slightly derail of this topic. You see Japan has insanely early HSR system since the 70s but they have not been able to export their HSR industry outside of Japan in 5 decades. The only success story is Taiwan. Taiwan's HSR was originally going use one of the European system but Lee Teng-hui who secretly considered himself a Japanese strong armed the project and forced the railway authority import half of the tech from Japan. That's why Taiwanese HSR is a bastardized hybrid of 2 systems and have never been able to turn a profit. Japan then tried to build HSR in India, that project has been a spectacular failure; Japan then tried to build one for Vietnam. You see Japan likes to encircle China, there is no surprise the Quad was a Japanese idea. The Vietnamese project was too expensive so the Vietnamese asked to downgrade it from 300km to 200km rail. I don't know where that status of that project is, probably will be later to complete than the 200km HSR China is building in Laos. IMO the story of the Japanese HSR can pretty much show you the Japanese engineer culture. They either make the whole system so complicated its impossible to adopt outside of Japan (HSR, those Docomo quasi smartphone system before the iPhone), or they are going the completely proprietary route and monopolize the industry (SLR/mirrorless systems, game consoles, etc), there is nothing in between. Either way, you can not incorporate non Japanese companies in the systems. It's very interesting when you look at it.
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Apr 12, 2021 19:49
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Though Japan's HSR technology is pretty impressive, like the whole automatic detection of incoming earthquakes and rapid breaking/shutting down of services in response. Travelling with the Shinkansen is def a top experience though I want to try China's HSR in the future.
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Apr 12, 2021 19:55
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Junkozeyne posted:Biking between Paris and Lyon at a relaxed 1054 km/h who said anything about cars lol. y’all are obsessed
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Apr 12, 2021 20:16
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taiwan is tiny and the high speed rail there is extremely good & I liked using it. China is big and the highspeed rail is extremely good & likeable as well. Highspeed rail is good.
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Apr 12, 2021 20:28
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:you use the high speed rail in Europe to get from one side of the continent to the other, not to commute lol I used it to commute before Covid. It's great.
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Apr 12, 2021 20:29
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Because US car culture leads to takes that HSR is somehow not needed in countries that are deemed to small lol Who the gently caress cares if France is similiar in size to Texas or whatever, US states desperately need mass transit as well, not the other way around
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Apr 12, 2021 20:31
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hell I'd be okay with regular-rear end non-highspeed rail I live in a city that has over a million people in its metro and about 1.3 mil in its combined statistical area, and the nearest Amtrak station of any kind is 110 miles away and sees exactly two trains per day, one inbound and one outbound. if I wanted to go to Chicago from here via car it'd take about 12-14 hours counting stops, if I wanted to take a train it'd take 45+ counting the 90-minute drive to the station, stops, and layovers. Or I could fly there in an hour and 45 minutes, for less money than the two-day train trip costs. Mister Bates has issued a correction as of 22:18 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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Apr 12, 2021 22:11
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indigi posted:why do Spain and France need so much HSR they’re freaking tiny lol
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Apr 12, 2021 22:42
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Mister Bates posted:hell I'd be okay with regular-rear end non-highspeed rail yeah we need coast to coast high speed definitely but we also could use a ton of plain regular rail too. though if we can convince this bullshit government to do infrastructure may as well go all the way
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Apr 12, 2021 22:49
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The east coast rail is so mediocre I have yet to take a train ride to another city. Before we brought a car we just take Megabus to DC/Philly/Boston. I think Megabus departs every hour. The reason US train ticket is nowhere as cheap as long distance bus fare is that the government subsidize highway and gas but doesn't subsidize the railway. In China you can also buy train ticket inside Wechat and also use QR code ticket.
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Apr 12, 2021 22:54
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america will never have anything good.
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Apr 12, 2021 22:55
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unfortunately it does subsidize the railway lol but once I took a train from Philly-New York I’ll never take the megabus again what a comparatively garbage experience
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Apr 12, 2021 22:56
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KaptainKrunk posted:america will never have anything good.
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Apr 12, 2021 23:01
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America has the Wu Tang Clan 
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Apr 12, 2021 23:02
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indigi posted:unfortunately it does subsidize the railway lol philly to trenton to new york is a good ride and like $22, takes like 2 hours though which is kind of a joke but definitely pref to megabus
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Apr 12, 2021 23:05
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they should make an express that skips Trenton and EWR
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Apr 12, 2021 23:06
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lol even america's best public transportation is just absolute dogshit and has only gotten worse since the 1930s in almost every way
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Apr 12, 2021 23:15
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indigi posted:unfortunately it does subsidize the railway lol Philly to New York are so close that should barely count as an inter-city trip
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Apr 13, 2021 03:38
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Granted, Bos-Wash is also really the only region of the US really packed with legacy infrastructure to that degree. That said, most of it is in pretty rough shape and I doubt 8 billion a year infrastructure spending is going to help very much. It isn’t really the age of the systems themselves but that they just barely get enough maintenance to keep semi-operational.
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Apr 13, 2021 04:07
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Antonymous posted:taiwan is tiny and the high speed rail there is extremely good & I liked using it. China is big and the highspeed rail is extremely good & likeable as well. I fell asleep on the hsr once coming home late at night and woke up in kaohsiung and had to take the bus back, that sucked
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Apr 13, 2021 05:35
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https://twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1381392669704871942?s=21 What do you even call this? Is something this pathetic even propaganda?
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Apr 13, 2021 15:56
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Hedenius posted:https://twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1381392669704871942?s=21 Check the wood engraving, he's at (one of) the Mercer's houses lmao??? nvm, his mother's maiden name is Mercer Gorman Thomas has issued a correction as of 16:03 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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Apr 13, 2021 16:01
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Hedenius posted:What do you even call this? Is something this pathetic even propaganda? cringe
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Apr 13, 2021 16:33
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Hedenius posted:https://twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1381392669704871942?s=21 wonder if he knows how many mainland Chinese products Cabelas stocks
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Apr 13, 2021 16:40
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