[Asia/Oceania] Forget About Chips - China Is Coming for Ships

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Question Friend: Aug 3, 2018; by FactsAreUseless

KaptainKrunk posted:

lol china is not getting owned in the trade war

CCP officials are saying they are "confused," something they wouldn't actually say openly if they were genuinely confused or worried.

They weren't saying it openly

# ? Sep 20, 2018 06:11

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 20:19

frankenfreak: Feb 16, 2007; I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Prav posted:

remember how trump said that americans were gonna win so much they were gonna get tired of winning

weeeelllll

Well, the EU is buying those soybeans after all...

# ? Sep 20, 2018 13:55

frankenfreak: Feb 16, 2007; I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

But you could say that's just

small beans. :rimshot:

I'll see myself out.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 13:55

CAPS LOCK BROKEN: Feb 1, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

A Twist in the U.S. Tariff Battle: �It�s Helping China Be More Competitive�

# ? Sep 20, 2018 15:02

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

# ? Sep 20, 2018 20:18

Kurnugia: Sep 2, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

that's being woke

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:17

Graphic: Sep 4, 2018; It's like Lenin said

China could have the most successful porn industry in the world. Really hot Asian women but they're having solid, normal sex instead of having electric eels crammed up their rear end like Japanese porn.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:21

Kurnugia: Sep 2, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

oh you watched those vids too huh

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:29

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Two socialist girls and a cup with Chinese characteristics.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:38

Graphic: Sep 4, 2018; It's like Lenin said

Kurnugia posted:

oh you watched those vids too huh

only on efukt though, i swear it

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:40

Kurnugia: Sep 2, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Halloween Jack posted:

Two socialist girls and a cup with Chinese characteristics.

lol

# ? Sep 20, 2018 21:51

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

Dengism-Middle Income Worldism

# ? Sep 21, 2018 11:10

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/_ionayeo/status/1042719194243100672

# ? Sep 21, 2018 12:37

paul_soccer10: Mar 28, 2016; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kurnugia posted:

oh you watched those vids too huh

# ? Sep 21, 2018 14:08

Infernot: Jul 17, 2015; "A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."; Grimey Drawer

https://nenow.in/neighbour/indian-maoists-ram-china-social-imperialists.html

# ? Sep 22, 2018 17:22

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1043741754959097857

# ? Sep 23, 2018 08:17

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

https://twitter.com/MarginalScribbl/status/1044152869530693632?s=19

# ? Sep 24, 2018 10:21

Graphic: Sep 4, 2018; It's like Lenin said

The only good thing that ever came out of red China was that quote of Mao calling Kim Il-sung a "fat emperor."

# ? Sep 24, 2018 10:32

Infernot: Jul 17, 2015; "A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."; Grimey Drawer

https://www.amazon.com/Xi-Jinping-Governance-English-Language/dp/1602204098

quote:

"I've bought copies of this book for my colleagues as well. I want them to understand socialism with Chinese characteristics." �Mark Zuckerberg, Founder & CEO, Facebook

# ? Sep 25, 2018 20:27

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Sucking up with American characteristics.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 20:48

coathat: May 21, 2007

It�s insane how pathetic zucker is with Xi

# ? Sep 25, 2018 20:50

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Infernot posted:

https://www.amazon.com/Xi-Jinping-Governance-English-Language/dp/1602204098

i have a copy of this book

# ? Sep 25, 2018 20:59

Corek: May 11, 2013; by R. Guyovich

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i have a copy of this book

Did it help you understand socialism with Chinese characteristics

# ? Sep 25, 2018 21:08

sincx: Jul 13, 2012; furiously masturbating to anime titties

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Mar 23, 2021

# ? Sep 25, 2018 21:37

R. Guyovich: Dec 25, 1991

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i have a copy of this book

i have both of them. haven't finished volume 2 yet but volume 1 has some bangers mixed in with pretty banal speech transcripts.

# ? Sep 26, 2018 02:29

Graphic: Sep 4, 2018; It's like Lenin said

R. Guyovich posted:

i have both of them. haven't finished volume 2 yet but volume 1 has some bangers mixed in with pretty banal speech transcripts.

tell me some of the bangers in Xi Jinping thought. if they pass muster I might even uphold them.

# ? Sep 26, 2018 05:19

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

# ? Sep 26, 2018 05:29

R. Guyovich: Dec 25, 1991

Karl Barks posted:

nm

you do this a lot.

# ? Sep 26, 2018 07:55

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

https://twitter.com/pbnshah/status/1043922463854383105?s=19

# ? Sep 26, 2018 12:58

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

R. Guyovich posted:

you do this a lot.

The Coward's Edit

# ? Sep 26, 2018 14:18

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

R. Guyovich posted:

you do this a lot.

Nothing insidious ol' pal, I answered my own question

# ? Sep 26, 2018 15:39

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/pbnshah/status/1043922463854383105?s=19

# ? Sep 26, 2018 16:38

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/ltpauley/status...ingawful.com%2F

# ? Sep 26, 2018 18:00

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/ltpauley/status...ingawful.com%2F

lmao

# ? Sep 26, 2018 18:26

sincx: Jul 13, 2012; furiously masturbating to anime titties

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Mar 23, 2021

# ? Sep 26, 2018 20:49

alsothere: Oct 14, 2014; Taco Defender

https://twitter.com/ericfish85/status/1044983014915280901?s=19

# ? Sep 27, 2018 02:15

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

How DO you get your communism to last so long?

Wait a minute... Capitalism? Ancient Chinese Secret, huh!

# ? Sep 27, 2018 12:11

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

# ? Sep 27, 2018 14:05

Pablo Nergigante: Apr 16, 2002

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

How DO you get your communism to last so long?

Wait a minute... Capitalism? Ancient Chinese Secret, huh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lfiTebewnc

# ? Sep 27, 2018 14:41

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 20:19

uncop: Oct 23, 2010

http://chuangcn.org/journal/two/an-adequate-state/

quote:

闯: When did the transition to capitalism begin and end, and how did the new bourgeoisie form?

LX: The earliest steps began in the early 1970s, after the conflict with the USSR.[9] There was Kissinger�s secret visit in 1971 and then Nixon�s official visit in 1972. But more important were the children of high-ranking officials who went to university in the US. The real purpose of their visit was to learn more about the capitalist system and consider whether to adopt elements from it. They also played an important role in building ties between China and the US, and to the capitalist world as a whole.
But of course the actual transition didn�t begin until the 1980s. I disagree with the idea that it was all because of Deng Xiaoping, or that he consciously wanted to restore capitalism. He was just responding to deeper concerns among the bureaucracy as a whole to consolidate its power and benefit materially in the face of its crisis in the 1970s. In the context of global capitalism, adopting market reforms and using state power to go into business was the most obvious way to do that.
The transition to capitalism was completed in the late 1990s, along with the bureaucracy�s transformation into a bourgeoisie. This completion was marked by two developments: the restructuring of state-owned enterprises (SOEs), and the bourgeoisification (资产阶级化) of the entire bureaucracy down to the lowest levels. At first, in the 1980s, it was mainly just the higher-ranking officials who went into business, but by the late 1990s, even the lowest levels had also become capitalists.[10]

闯: So the entire bureaucracy turned into a bourgeoisie? There were no bureaucrats who didn�t become capitalists?

LX: Yes, if we limit the term �bureaucracy� to those state officials with any degree of real power�those in charge of some state office, from the head of a ministry down to the mayor or party secretary of a township. All of them became bourgeois in the literal sense of becoming capitalists, of running businesses for profit. Of course, it�s usually not the bureaucrats themselves who own businesses, since that�s illegal in China, but they run them through their relatives and cronies.
But not all capitalists are officials, of course. In fact most are not. To put it more precisely: the first new batch of big capitalists became capitalists through their access to state power, but eventually many other entrepreneurs obtained wealth without much direct access to state power. China�s richest capitalists all have some deep connections to state power, but many of the others do not. And that�s an important source of tension within China�s bourgeoisie. Some of Chairman Xi�s policies can be understood as a response to this tension.

闯: Some people say that China has two overlapping but distinct ruling classes, each with its own interests: a party-state bureaucracy and a bourgeoisie. Do you agree with that?

LX: No. China has only one ruling class: the bourgeoisie. There are no state bureaucrats who aren�t also capitalists. Some people may be confused about the term guanliao (bureaucracy or officialdom). It doesn�t include civil servants (公务员), who don�t have any real political power, just a stable job and some prestige. The lowest level of the state bureaucracy is kezhang (科长), the head of the lowest level of a state ministry. State employees below that level are not bureaucrats in this sense but merely civil servants. And I think it would be impossible to find any kezhang or higher-level bureaucrat who doesn�t run a business. This seems to be different from some other countries, where bureaucrats are merely state employees with a little more power than civil servants. In China bureaucrats control the means of production, and they use these for either private or public for-profit enterprise, so they�re capitalists.

闯: If the transition to capitalism and the formation of the new bourgeoisie was already completed by the late 1990s, then what has changed since 2012?

LX: From 1976 all the way up until 2012, you could say that the Chinese government was merely a provisional (临时) government. It really was �crossing the river by feeling the stones� [as Deng Xiaoping said]. It didn�t have a coherent long-term strategy. When the transition to capitalism generated problems, leaders basically dealt with them one at a time. When Chairman Xi came to power, his government finally put the long-term interests of capitalist accumulation on the agenda. As with Deng, it�s important to avoid attributing too much agency to Xi alone. He didn�t fall from heaven, but is merely a manifestation of the Chinese bourgeoisie�s deep-seated desires. This isn�t a matter of a few individuals but something propelled by the common interests of the ruling class as a whole.

uncop has issued a correction as of 18:05 on Sep 27, 2018

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