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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

typo's going to be rich

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Qiu said he began improving his company’s work promoting the party about four to five years ago and now it has 12 party members out of its 170 employees. He encourages employees to use “Xue-Xi-Qiang-Guo,” or “Study Xi to Strengthen the Country,” an app that promotes President Xi’s ruling doctrines, he said.

“The party building work has paid off,” said Qiu. “We have got the government support. It means a lot.”
remember to always keep lei feng's good example in mind when doing party building work within the enterprise

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

people make snide jokes about xi jinping thought or whatever but this is how you reverse the cultural shifts that have led to that upswing in materialism (the bad kind) everyone mentions when they complain about china. in the absence of a revolutionary situation, like, say, decades after a successful revolution, you have to maintain the ideology if you want the next generations to believe in the broader project.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

if you've seen stuff that's happening in china and gone "hmph, it'd be nice if the communist party did actual communism like they say they will," well: this is how.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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I mean if we grant that "tax breaks for doing A Thing" are a way of encouraging behavior, "tax breaks for imbibing ideology" doesn't really seem like a ridiculous notion on its face

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
excuse me i can make snide jokes AND agree with your general point

materialism (the bad kind)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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we make snide jokes and then guyovich slides in to explain how it's good, thereby advancing xi jinping thought in a dialectical process

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
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is there an english edition of the app? i'm asking as someone unironically interested, not as a snide joke

also, i just read this new left review article about relations between america and china that some of you might find interesting:
https://newleftreview.org/issues/II115/articles/susan-watkins-america-vs-china

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe

Finicums Wake posted:

is there an english edition of the app? i'm asking as someone unironically interested, not as a snide joke

also, i just read this new left review article about relations between america and china that some of you might find interesting:
https://newleftreview.org/issues/II115/articles/susan-watkins-america-vs-china

Good article. The author is still not sure what's going on inside China's opaque economy, but she explained the US's global imperial system very well. Better than a lot of Latin American books I read.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
how is reactionary russia taking a kinder-gentler approach to muslim separatism than china is

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

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Finicums Wake posted:

is there an english edition of the app? i'm asking as someone unironically interested, not as a snide joke

also, i just read this new left review article about relations between america and china that some of you might find interesting:
https://newleftreview.org/issues/II115/articles/susan-watkins-america-vs-china

it’s pretty wild to read snippets of supposedly serious foreign policy economics experts discussing the prospect of using military force to try and maintain American hegemony in the Pacific Rim as if such a thing wouldn’t be both absurd and monstrous.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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Dreddout posted:

I love it when a single sentence can inform you that someone doesn't know what they're talking about

Syndicalism literally means unionism in French they're synonyms

Syndicalism is the wobblies, unionism is the afl-cio, yellow unions is the all china federation of trade unions

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

cargo cult posted:

how is reactionary russia taking a kinder-gentler approach to muslim separatism than china is

That's just because they already crushed the Chechens.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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Also, they can't afford death camps

The three cities shenzhen, shanghai and beijing combined alone have a bigger economy than russia, iirc

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cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Kassad posted:

That's just because they already crushed the Chechens.
yeah but they didnt like bulldoze every mosque in dagestan. if u look at putins official language on islam its usually really concilliatory, islam is an officially reconized state religion and the state builds mosques and poo poo. and buys tiger pets for kadyrov's palace

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009

Lightning Knight posted:

it’s pretty wild to read snippets of supposedly serious foreign policy economics experts discussing the prospect of using military force to try and maintain American hegemony in the Pacific Rim as if such a thing wouldn’t be both absurd and monstrous.

They aren’t endorsing it, they’re just presenting a dry and analytical view of the world (as they see it) without any blinders on. it comes across as condemning the entire american imperial project as hollow and cynically motivated to me.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

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The Fighting Slowpokes

It is better for recipient of credit to be 双红 (double red: in both credit score and political leanings) than 双黑 (double black)

CountFosco
Jan 9, 2012

Welcome back to the Liturgigoon thread, friend.

cargo cult posted:

how is reactionary russia taking a kinder-gentler approach to muslim separatism than china is

The Chechens took their shot at a time of Russian weakness, turns out Russia wasn't weak enough for it to work. The Russians actually have a long history of collaboration with various Islamic groups, you kind of need to have good diplomacy with Islam when you're trying to take over all of central Asia. Also, look at where Tartarstan is on the map. Yeah, they're Muslim but they're completely enveloped by Russia. Independence isn't really an option for them, so collaboration with the ethnic Russians is the outcome.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

Syndicalism is the wobblies, unionism is the afl-cio, yellow unions is the all china federation of trade unions

The iww explicitly disavows syndicalism you moron

https://www.iww.org/history/library/iww/responsetoRILU/4

But go on getting your historical information from kaiserreich, i guess

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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The second paragraph says, "iww is not political", a position that nobody actually believes and also the reason why it is mostly dead, because it doesn't have any loving aspirations anymore

I guess the better wording is, "iww back when it was relevant"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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sincx
Jul 13, 2012

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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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sincx posted:

lol cuck

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

cargo cult posted:

yeah but they didnt like bulldoze every mosque in dagestan. if u look at putins official language on islam its usually really concilliatory, islam is an officially reconized state religion and the state builds mosques and poo poo. and buys tiger pets for kadyrov's palace
don't know much about russia but i saw this gap between perception and reality in the american far right (russian nazis are not fans of putin), and putin talks about islam as bound up with russian history and culture and so on.

basically the entire evidence of putin's alleged anti-islamic sentiment for these people is an off-color joke he made about circumcision in the early 2000s or something

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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CountFosco posted:

The Chechens took their shot at a time of Russian weakness, turns out Russia wasn't weak enough for it to work. The Russians actually have a long history of collaboration with various Islamic groups, you kind of need to have good diplomacy with Islam when you're trying to take over all of central Asia. Also, look at where Tartarstan is on the map. Yeah, they're Muslim but they're completely enveloped by Russia. Independence isn't really an option for them, so collaboration with the ethnic Russians is the outcome.
i believe this was true in the soviet period as well, extending to tolerance of sharia courts

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

The second paragraph says, "iww is not political", a position that nobody actually believes and also the reason why it is mostly dead, because it doesn't have any loving aspirations anymore

I guess the better wording is, "iww back when it was relevant"

That article was written in 1922 when the iww was near the zenith of it's power and influence

The iww has always disavowed "politics" meaning forming a political party. It's the core of what separated them from other unions and the socialist party. Wobblies have never claimed to be apolitical.

Syndicalism literally just means trade unionism. That's the direct translation from French where the term was coined.The connotations of it being an alternative to communism only emerged after the Russian revolution. Wherein the democratic centralists created the word "anarcho-syndicalist" as a derogatory for the worker's opposition.

You don't understand what your talking about so quit pretending you do

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Bob if you wouldn't come in here spewing bullshit with the utmost confidence it'd be easier on both of us.

Or you can continue lusting for Han death in the second warlord era that's coming any day now!

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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Nap Ghost

Dreddout posted:

Bob if you wouldn't come in here spewing bullshit with the utmost confidence it'd be easier on both of us.

Or you can continue lusting for Han death in the second warlord era that's coming any day now!

Its time for the tu quoque friendo

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

china's also not bulldozing mosques, that viral post and subsequent guardian article were about the destruction of a gatehouse built in 2014, not the actual prayer hall.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

You're referring to this
https://twitter.com/shawnwzhang/status/1113148584310927360

Newer tweet (by an obvious CIA plant, natch), right? Or maybe an older one?

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
how do we even know that the Chinese government, let along Xi was responsible for this

as recent tragic events in Notre Dame Paris (General Secretary Xi has already sent condolences) show, religious buildings which are very old are fire hazardous, it's entirely possible that a bad maintenance engineer accidentally started electric fire resulting in building burning down. But now western propaganda are blaming it on Communist party.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Grapplejack posted:

You're referring to this
https://twitter.com/shawnwzhang/status/1113148584310927360

Newer tweet (by an obvious CIA plant, natch), right? Or maybe an older one?

it is kinda weird why they would bulldoze something they just declared a cultural heritage site and I’m legitimate curious what’s going on there but there must be someone actually in China talking about this, right?

Guyovich go on a fact finding mission for all goon kind, tia.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Lightning Knight posted:

Guyovich go on a fact finding mission for all goon kind, tia.

I'm confident that homex will find a perfectly reasonable and rational explanation that correctly absolves CCP of any wrongdoing

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Grapplejack posted:

You're referring to this
https://twitter.com/shawnwzhang/status/1113148584310927360

Newer tweet (by an obvious CIA plant, natch), right? Or maybe an older one?

yeah. bellingcat of all places investigated and found this out

Are Historic Mosques in Xinjiang Being Destroyed?

quote:

It is therefore apparent that there has been a change between March 19 and 20, focused on the gatehouse. In the slider below comparing the two dates, we can see that the building immediately to the south of the gatehouse has also been completely removed, although the larger rectangular building to the south, which we believe to be the prayer hall, appears to be intact.

the evidence for the other mosque being destroyed is dicey, and there was a weibo post someone found of a person who visited late last year. so it's a dubious claim at best but major papers still ran with it.

the guy isn't cia but it speaks to the lack of vetting from media and experts that some law student can post satellite photos with very little attribution or evidence to back up his claims and become a superstar practically overnight. see also: moses, brown.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

ultimately this "open-source" stuff is unreliable and someone needs to just go to hotan and see what's what. i might take a trip this year but it's looking unlikely

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
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R. Guyovich posted:

ultimately this "open-source" stuff is unreliable and someone needs to just go to hotan and see what's what. i might take a trip this year but it's looking unlikely

homeworkwxplainer vs. brown moses...cspam vs. dnd...the showdown of the century...

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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Geebis thread mocking cspam thread, csoam thread mocking geebis thread

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

sincx posted:

Hahaha, the idiots in the GBS thread are adding their ESL teacher wisdom to (of all places) the SAclopedia:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=2793

Even for them, this level of stupidity--enshrining, of all people, Fojar--is truly astounding.



this is just a localized version of the idiots who don't actually know anything about china being branded experts by the media-think tank industrial complex

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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https://twitter.com/PeoplesWorld/status/1118255478361022464

indeed, the government has invited the European Union to send human rights inspection teams to Xinjiang, although these invitations have been declined

these same voices had precious little to say about Spain’s aggressive crackdown on the Catalan independence movement last year, other than to reiterate the necessity of a “united Spain.”

The West’s interest in the Uighurs is a lot less about altruism and a lot more about its economic and political rivalry with China.

Xinjiang province is rich in natural resources. Over 40% of its territory is suitable for agriculture and forestry, it contains some of China’s largest mineral deposits, its coal reserves account for nearly 40% of the national total, and it contains around 25% of China’s petroleum and natural gas. Economically, Xinjiang is key to China’s development, and this means that it is also key to Western imperialism.

members of the World Uighur Congress (WUC) visited Ottawa to lobby the Canadian government to impose sanctions and coordinate an international campaign to pressure the Chinese government. In the last month, the WUC made similar visits to New Zealand, Italian, and European Union officials. The WUC is based in Germany and receives annual funding from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED)

Added up—a million prisoners among a population of about 10 million, restrictions on growing beards or abstaining from tobacco and alcohol, systematic live organ harvesting—it starts to sound like the stuff of cheap Cold War movies. The purpose of this unchecked yet widely circulated narrative is to whip up a frenzy of moral outrage that can justify various forms of foreign interference in China’s sovereign affairs.

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