stephenthinkpad posted:

I think the entire crisis was engineered by Putin.

Budzilla posted:

But this is probably the best place to ask. Why isn't Russia doing more to stop the nuclear NK program?

Throatwarbler posted:

Maybe North Korea doesn't actually want to destroy the US and really just doesn't want to be invaded?

Some Guy TT posted:

which is flattering because from what i can tell what xi actually said was that america invaded korea writ large and hes just ignoring the pretense that anyone at the time actually believed there were two different koreas altogether

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1319831570438590465

you know i dont have the receipts handy but i could of sworn palmer was one of the guys saying that china had not actually solved the virus and that they were lying to us about having saved lives

stephenthinkpad posted:

I think this topic belongs here. I have rewatched news/commentaries from 16 and 17 recently. Watching the entire North Korea missile crisis unfold in a short span gave me a different prospective. I think the entire crisis was engineered by Putin. The missiles Kim shot in the 16 and 17 were really accurate and could always test successfully on schedule at specific dates to send important political messages. It's rumored that Russians directly send their own rocket engines to NK via train.

If you look at the shouting Marches between Trump and Kim, you could sense some carelessness. In other words, Trump was in on the game and knew it was a wrestling show. Remember Trump and Putin had a secret 1 hour meeting right after Trump became president?

Now look at it from Putin's angle, why would he do it? Because Trump is his loving guy, he wanted to orchestrate a nuclear missile crisis and have them sign a treaty. Trump will get tons of political capital for reelection.

From Trump's angle, his master plan was play up the crisis with NK, ultimately sign a nuclear treaty in 18 and immidiately launch a trade war with China, play it all the way to reelection. This fits Trump's MO of no hot wars.

From fat Kim's angle, of course he was willing to be the chess piece if it meant he could learn the missile technology from Russian engine. And he would get extra leverage against China. Driving a wedge between NK and China was also a Russian goal.

From China's prospective. The relationship between NK and China was really bad during 16 and 17. I think Kim executed a couple officials who was tasked to talk to the Chinese envoy. Anyway China's play was telling US "look we can't control this mad dog, don't pressure us to the contain him. Sorry we tried. "

I think the twist is the US diplomatic establisent KNEW Trump was in on the game. So what happened was they did their parts to disrupt the peace deal during the 2nd Trump and Kim meet. Trump's lawyer's scandal blew up at that time.

Also the official version of why Trump walked away from the deal was that Bannon and other Trump goons demand NK totally destroy their nuclear capability before they sign a deal. I think this can't be the whole story. Reason 1, S Korea told Kim as long as he went to Vietnam and blow up one of the nuclear facility, he would get a deal. Kim supposedly called Moon a couple times during his train trip to confirm it. Now why would the South Koreans promise that unless they got the message from the Americans? Reason 2, the nuclear deal Obama signed with Iran was a soft deal. It was a "freeze" deal not total destruction of nuclear facilities. So Trump didn't need to get a super strict deal signed to get his Nobel Prize.

However something happened and it made Trump abruptly walked out on Kim. And Kim pivoted hard to China afterward. I will go thru all the 18 19 news first before I comment on the remaining story.

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1240652758958604288
https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1240105828285394945
https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1240105814863593472
https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1227812329338867713
https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1230876759421222913

Budzilla posted:

Nah.

But this is probably the best place to ask. Why isn't Russia doing more to stop the nuclear NK program? ICBMs from North Korea will have to travel over Russian territory and airspace to reach the US - I wouldn't be happy about that if I was the Russian President. Also you are hoping that the US will know the NK missiles are flying over your territory are NK missiles and not a Russian first strike attempt.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1320130505581363200

sincx posted:

https://twitter.com/rzhongnotes/status/1320539908977602563

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1320634868842127360

sincx posted:

https://twitter.com/rzhongnotes/status/1320539908977602563

Chomskyan posted:

do those characters mean “baldy” or something?

Kassad posted:

He tried writing 五毛 (wumao, the 50 cent party) but hosed it up.

sincx posted:

it's specifically Boeing Defense, not Boeing Commercial Aircraft

although 5-10 years from now when the C919 and CJ-1000 are ready, that may change

sincx posted:

it's specifically Boeing Defense, not Boeing Commercial Aircraft

although 5-10 years from now when the C919 and CJ-1000 are ready, that may change

Chomskyan posted:

do those characters mean “baldy” or something?

Antonymous posted:

毛 (Mao) means fur/bodyhair/ and also 10 cents. Mao Zedong's last name is 'Fur'

五 (Wu) means 5

無/无 (Wu) means without

Technically 無毛 means 'hairless' like a hairless cat, not bald, so no one is really showing good Chinese skills here

Obviously 五毛 is reference to 50 cent, the rapper

Antonymous posted:

Technically 無毛 means 'hairless' like a hairless cat, not bald, so no one is really showing good Chinese skills here

quote:

Even by the volatile standards of journalism in the twenty-first century, Newsweek’s recent problems are extraordinary. There are the usual issues: a sharp decline in print subscribers, Google and Facebook, the difficulty of running a mass-market general interest news magazine in an age of hyperpartisanship. But Newsweek has also been raided by the Manhattan district attorney’s office (a former owner and chief executive pleaded guilty to fraud and money laundering charges in February) and has been accused of deep ties to a shadowy Christian cult, amid many other scandals.

These controversies hollowed out Newsweek’s staff and its brand. Its clickbait-heavy approach, aimed at gaming search engines, has declined since it was spun off from parent company IBT Media in 2018. But it remains a publication that privileges the interests of Google over those of its hypothetical readers. While other publications are abandoning the “scale” model pioneered by BuzzFeed and others in favor of building a loyal audience and raking in subscriptions, Newsweek is something of a throwback. It has attempted to rebuild some of its credibility post-IBT by partnering with the Poynter Institute, but it still has a distinctly seamy vibe. Earlier this month, the magazine’s cover story was a glowing profile of Jared Kushner of all people, which dropped right before a raft of more critical coverage, including the revelation that the president’s son-in-law had secretly met with potential spoiler candidate Kanye West.

Meanwhile, the opinion section is brimming with right-wing columnists, who range from the barely credible to the foaming at the mouth. Farage and Gingrich are regulars, as is Alan Dershowitz. Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf took to Newsweek to attack the American Civil Liberties Union for standing up for peaceful protesters. Hammer, the op-ed editor, has a resume that is littered with stints in right-wing politics and advocacy organizations: He has worked for Ted Cruz, the Federalist Society, and the Claremont Institute as well as Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire. (Shapiro, last seen humiliating himself and his wife on Twitter, regularly contributed op-eds to Newsweek until February of last year.)

https://newrepublic.com/article/158968/newsweek-rise-zombie-magazine

Rabelais D posted:

This isn't correct to be fair, 无毛 is a fairly common jokey way of referring to male pattern baldness, probably because it's supposed to be used to describe animal fur as you point out. 无毛 is a totally fine nickname for a bald person so that person's Chinese isn't in question.

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyLaiApple/status/1320936003780202497

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1320735256220176392?s=20
https://twitter.com/catcontentonly/status/1320877059187613696?s=20

quote: