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gradenko_2000
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Hey what the gently caress the PRC doesn't have universal healthcare? What's next, the Soviet Union didn't either?

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gradenko_2000
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Civ struggles so much trying to create a gameplay-based, "organic" solution to ICS, when they should instead directly forbid building cities less than 2 (or even 3) spaces apart. It's like the Americans trying to build a space pen with Soviet Russia just used a pencil yes I know it's not true

gradenko_2000
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Typo posted:

more expansion is always good makes for bland game play style, also not all that realistic: plenty of empires in history fell because of overexpansion

Civ has been historically not good at depicting internal unrest. That's not really a dig at the game being "bad", just that poo poo is abstracted / gamified enough on Civ's end that it never really comes up besides managing happiness.

gradenko_2000
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rudatron posted:

4x's are fundamentally war games. Half the gameplay is combat mechanics, and they're designed to make the tactics/strategy of combat as part of their appeal. The driver for conflict, is expansion. Without expansion, the game is just click best building->click next turn. It's the most boring poo poo.

My dad still plays Civ 4 with custom games starting at the WW2 tech level and plays it like a wargame, with naval blockades, grand amphibious assaults, aerial bombardment campaigns, and armored spearheads.

gradenko_2000
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city-based unit support still kinda sucks

gradenko_2000
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What are Miriam's strengths, if you're playing her faction?

gradenko_2000
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Cross-posting from the Philippines thread in D&D

Back in April 2016, Alibaba bought a controlling share in Lazada, an e-retailer like itself, except operating in Southeast Asia.

In Jun 2017, Alibaba sunk another 1 billion USD into Lazada.

https://twitter.com/jcmaningat/status/925198290823479296

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Contractor nets P174,000 for a three-week production of 100 bags, while worker earns only P7,205. Worker has to work 14 hrs/ day

This means that a worker earns only P24 per hour for the exhausting home-based work -- of course without OT pay and addtl benefits

Working moms also had to pay the electricity and thread out of their pockets, deductible frm 16k for two workers for three weeks

Bags are sold on Lazada for around P2,000. [Which means only 4 bags are earned by the workers. The only 96 bags are pure capitalist profit]!!

It's clear from this case why capitalists are tapping home-based work: much cheaper labor cost, savings on electricity and materials etc.

On top of these, there is no existing employee-employer relationship. [No contract, either].

Take note: a worker should work 21 days straight, 14 hrs each day to finish the 100 pre-ordered bags on Lazada -- modern-day slavery

When asked how she feels about it, [Mother] Rosal said, "[The 24 pesos per hour, it's like nothing because I need that to feed my family]" :((

This case study illustrates why 1) more and more wealth are accumulated on the top 2) poor gets poorer. This leads to a situation where

...there is a growing pool of wage slaves who couldn't afford a growing collection of commodities = crisis of overproduction

While immense wealth sits on the head of a very few = crisis of overaccumulation.

Just to be clear: This is not just about Lazada. This is precisely how capitalism accumulates wealth. Problem is systemic. All brands guilty

This is precisely how capital, as DEAD labor, feeds on LIVING labor like a vampire to perpetuate itself. Creepy isn't it? #Halloween

Footnote:
Total sales = P200k for 100 bags for P2k each
Labor++* (payment to household) = P16k, for two workers, power bill, materials

From the P16k, workers will allot P1k for electricity bill, P500 for recouping machine investment, P95 for the thread; only P14,405 left

to be split into two home-based workers = P7,202.50; Materials supplied by cap = P10k. capitalist earnings before taxes = P174,000

gradenko_2000
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Yandat posted:

lal is obama

weak-kneed moderate that gets his poo poo pushed in by even the slightest aggression, checks out

gradenko_2000
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Recon Rover Rick is fake news

gradenko_2000
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rudatron posted:

Lal also runs a pocast that only lanyards listen to, called Palling Around - With Pravin Lal

Keepin' it 4.367 Lightyears

Colony Pod Save Planet

gradenko_2000
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does China's actions in Africa and the Spratlys constitute imperialism?

If yes, is there a wing of leftism that acknowledges this, the way they do, say, American imperialism?

I'm wary of jumping to conclusions insofar as handwringing about dredging ships creating new missile bases in the South China Sea is almost exclusively a right-wing talking point

gradenko_2000
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Planned economies are almost always better in strategy games because there's an actual plan to be pursued (that is, to win the game). It makes sense that it'd be less useful than letting private enterprise gently caress off and do whatever because you need that industry to be focused.

gradenko_2000
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Typo posted:

why is state property good cuz it let's you boom pop?

Removing distance-based maintenance costs is critical for having a large empire, which you will eventually have anyway if you're playing to win. Adding a hammer to every Workshop and Watermill is a huge production boost.

gradenko_2000
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Typo posted:

wut about corporations?

Civ 4 should have stopped at Warlords.

gradenko_2000
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Dreddout posted:

Holy gently caress, imagine the kind of person that has this take.

Age of Wonders Shadow Magic

gradenko_2000
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I just bought a couple more EU4 DLC expansions despite never having spent more than an hour with that game. What the hell is wrong with me.

(what's the easiest way to ease into EU4? I didn't even know there was a Cradle of Civilization expansion until just now)

gradenko_2000
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obviously the answer is to have China conquer Europe

gradenko_2000
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I really liked Reigns for how utterly playable it was, and wish there was a Paradox-type game that hewed closer to that level of "make a broad choice out of two to three options" ease-of-use, but with a more historical grounding and a map to paint with your results.

gradenko_2000
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Oh, I get that. I was agreeing with you in the sense that I do wish there was a sort of game that let you "DO THING" far more directly rather than the billion soft nudges implied in Paradox's sliders, percentages, and point-spends.

gradenko_2000
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Typo posted:

I like my games being games and not literal soviet gosplan planner simulation

There was a game that was specifically this, where the goal was to have an industrial base big enough to resist the German invasion in 1941, but the harder you pushed industrialization, the more people you killed through famine and failures of collectivization and suppression of dissent.

gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/935361935679410177

poo tape is real

gradenko_2000
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iPhone with Chinese characteristics

gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/936595770488303618

gradenko_2000
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gradenko_2000
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Happy birthday Gnolam Chomsky

gradenko_2000
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Sri Lanka hands over running of Hambantota port to Chinese company

Sri Lanka formally handed over commercial activities in its main southern port to a Chinese company on Saturday and received US$292 million out of a US$1.12 billion deal, Finance Minister Mangala Samaraweera said.

The deal, signed in July, will see China Merchants Port Holdings, handling the Chinese-built Hambantota port on a 99-year lease. The port is near the main shipping route from Asia to Europe and likely to play a major role in China’s “Belt and Road Initiative”.

“Today we received US$292 million as the first tranche of the Hambantota Port joint venture. This is but the first step in realising the true commercial value of the port after seven long years,” Samaraweera said.

The US$1.5 billion port opened in 2010, but was incurring losses due to lack of commercial activity.

Ports Minister Mahinda Samarasinghe said the government would receive a further 10 per cent, or about US$100 million, in a month and another US$585 million in six months.

An initial plan to give the Chinese firm an 80 per cent stake triggered protests by trade unions and opposition groups, forcing ministers to make some revisions that limit China’s role to running commercial operations while the government retains oversight of broader security issues.

Both sides then agreed to redraw the deal and the Chinese firm will now hold a 70 per cent stake in a joint venture with the state-run Sri Lanka Ports Authority, part of a plan to convert US$6 billion of loans that Sri Lanka owes China into equity.

Sri Lanka said the Chinese firm would invest an additional US$600 million to make Hambantota port operational and US$1.12 billion from the deal would be used for debt repayment.

Government and diplomatic sources told Reuters that the United States, India and Japan had also raised concerns that China might use the port as a naval base.

India is in advanced talks with Sri Lanka to operate an airport near Hambantota port.

gradenko_2000
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https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/939832896604565505
https://twitter.com/alvarombedoya/status/940348649044881408

gradenko_2000
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Rand alPaul posted:

WHOA what C&C Generals mod is this??

the hard-hatted engineer and the truck makes it look like a Red Alert 2 mod

gradenko_2000
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zeal posted:


atilla was better tho

"The second standalone is better" is a truism at this point, whether you're talking about Napoleon, Fall of the Samurai, or Atilla

gradenko_2000
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Dreddout posted:

Good to know your parents are tankies I guess

this but unironically

gradenko_2000
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Xelkelvos posted:

Fascism is probably the wrong word, but it's definitely Authoritarian as gently caress

bingo

gradenko_2000
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honest question - what is the distinction between authoritarianism and totalitarianism?

gradenko_2000
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I can sort of see where Pener is coming from that if we accept that Capitalism Is Bad, then why would we welcome the presence of Capitalists in the political representation of a socialist state?

I mean, we already accept that, ideally, we shouldn't give Fascists a platform for speech and political representation even in current democracies, so why would Capitalists, heck, even Monarchists, be any different? You're just going to make them vote all they want in committees and legislatures while hoping that they never gain enough seats to threaten your agenda?

I just don't know how you reconcile that with the idea that banning political parties and forming a one-party state is also not good either.

EDIT: okay, so apparently per rudatron's post above mine, you really should "trust the process", that people should be free to "vote themselves back into Capitalism" if they want to.

gradenko_2000
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Typo posted:

yes the US and Venezuela are exact same thing as proven by the ruling party jailing its political opponents on a regular basis

lock her up!

gradenko_2000
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Jizz Festival posted:

just as you have decided that capitalism is inherently violent and tyrannical.

who in this hypothetical socialist society hasn't already decided that capitalism is inherently violent and tyrannical?

like, okay, I get it, people in the now aren't convinced of that, but if we're looking at this through the lens of a body politic that's in a position to ban non-socialist parties (or to not), I think it's pretty clear that we're not talking about The World As Of January 2018.

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Jizz Festival posted:

They should be tolerated because people should be free to disagree with each other, so that they can freely discuss and decide things. The only way they're a danger is if they take specific actions. Until there's a strong correlation between espousing pro-capitalist views and actually taking harmful action, most people would view suppression of pro-capitalist elements as an unnecessary infringement of their freedom.

we're not talking about "thought policing". The original argument was about banning political parties. Why should people be allowed to politically agitate for a return to a model of economics and society that we know is harmful?

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rudatron posted:

the thing i wanna pin is why it's regarded as necessary, long term - it's not technically illegal to make some protest movement for the return of feudalism right now, but it's not really possible for it succeed anyway, because no one wants it, and the process of production has advanced far enough to make the entire idea nonsensical. if we are to regard socialism as a similar dramatic advancement over capitalism, wouldn't the same logic hold?

Capitalism is going to make itself seem sensical and productive for far longer than it needs to kill us all.

I get what you mean as far as nobody wanting a return to feudalism because it's completely outmoded, but Capitalism is somewhere between isn't and really good at convincing people it isn't, and it's not going to be outed as outmoded quickly enough.

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https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/955410904442687488

quote:

Beijing jumped all over the U.S. government shutdown Sunday, claiming the impasse exposes the “chronic flaws” in western democracy.

Officials used an editorial in the state-run Xinhua news agency to question the “viability and legitimacy” of the U.S. political system, while mocking the Trump administration.

“What’s so ironic is that it came on the first anniversary of Donald Trump’s presidency on Saturday, a slap in the face for the leadership in Washington,” Xinhua’s Liu Chang said.

The shutdown began Friday, however the real impact will be felt Monday, when hundreds of thousands of federal workers remain at home after Democrats and Republicans failed to agree on a temporary spending bill.

https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/954917365313081349

While Xinhua’s editorials are not direct missives from Beijing, they do reflect government thinking:

“The western democratic system is hailed by the developed world as near perfect and the most superior political system to run a country,” it said. “However, what’s happening in the United States today will make more people worldwide reflect on the viability and legitimacy of such a chaotic political system.”

A poll published Monday revealed a further unwelcome difference between the two rivals. According to the annual Edelman Trust Barometer, Chinese citizens see their government as a highly trusted institution. In the U.S. trust in government has rarely been lower.

Still, some U.S. commentators hit back Monday, suggesting the shutdown was a perfect example of how a democracy should work:

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/955165147240255489

While the Trump administration has spent the past year struggling to corral warring factions across Congress and the White House, President Xi Jinping has cemented his position atop a rival political system with far less room for dissent.

In October, Xi’s name and writings were enshrined into the constitution of the Communist Party of China, the 64-year-old accepting the role of leader for at least five more years.

The Senate is scheduled to vote Monday on an amended spending bill reportedly backed by moderates from both parties — but it remains unclear if the legislation will get across the line.

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/955266934458679301

gradenko_2000
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it's difficult to imagine a unified China under the Nationalists. Warlordism and balkanization would probably result, with at least one of those becoming Communist anyway and some others being Western puppets.

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Whataboutism rules and isn't done enough.

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