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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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SorePotato posted:

Who cares loser, your spinning bowtie cannot lead me astray from Xi Jinping Thought. I live eternal in the people's heavenly army, while you, a CIA brain floating in a jar, are set to be replaced in two weeks

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Somebody has issued a correction as of 17:06 on Apr 3, 2023

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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china's socialism is questionable with all the millionaires and billionaires, but the chinese government has literally executed millionaires and billionaires (like recently) and lol at that happening in the united states

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKF0IYwhrjk

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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R. Guyovich posted:

ya. plus anytime chinese workers imprison or execute their bosses the government literally sends cops to help the workers
i've heard of that happening. like a major factory uprising resulting in a dead boss, and the communist party shows up and goes :shrug: and doesn't arrest anybody because the workers were not (importantly) opposing communist party rule; they wanted communist party intervention.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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quote:

A report by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission (http://www.uscc.gov/pressreleases/2011/11_10_26pr.pdf) found that “The state-owned and controlled portion of the Chinese economy is large. Based on reasonable assumptions, it appears that the visible state sector – SOEs and entities directly controlled by SOEs, accounted for more than 40% of China’s non-agricultural GDP. If the contributions of indirectly controlled entities, urban collectives and public TVEs are considered, the share of GDP owned and controlled by the state is approximately 50%.” The major banks are state-owned and their lending and deposit policies are directed by the government (much to the chagrin of China’s central bank and other pro-capitalist elements). There is no free flow of foreign capital into and out of China. Capital controls are imposed and enforced and the currency’s value is manipulated to set economic targets (much to the annoyance of the US Congress and Western hedge funds).

At the same time, the Communist party/state machine infiltrates all levels of industry and activity in China. According to a report by Joseph Fang and others (http://www.nber.org/papers/w17687), there are party organisations within every corporation that employs more than three communist party members. Each party organisation elects a party secretary. It is the party secretary who is the lynchpin of the alternative management system of each enterprise. This extends party control beyond the SOEs, partly privatised corporations and village or local government-owned enterprises into the private sector or “new economic organisations” as these are called. In 1999, only 3% of these had party cells. Now the figure is nearly 13%. As the paper puts it: “The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), by controlling the career advancement of all senior personnel in all regulatory agencies, all state-owned enterprises (SOEs), and virtually all major financial institutions state-owned enterprises (SOEs) and senior Party positions in all but the smallest non-SOE enterprises, retains sole possession of Lenin’s Commanding Heights.”

The reality is that almost all Chinese companies employing more than 100 people have an internal party cell-based control system. This is no relic of the Maoist era. It is the current structure set up specifically to maintain party control of the economy. As the Fang report says: “The CCP Organization Department manag(es) all senior promotions throughout all major banks, regulators, government ministries and agencies, SOEs, and even many officially designated non-SOE enterprises. The Party promotes people through banks,regulatory agencies, enterprises, governments, and Party organs, handling much of the national economy in one huge human resources management chart. An ambitious young cadre might begin in a government ministry, join middle management in an SOE bank, accept a senior Party position in a listed enterprise, accept promotion into a top regulatory position, accept appointment as a mayor or provincial governor, become CEO of a different SOE bank, and perhaps ultimately rise into upper echelons of the central government or CCP — all by the grace of the CCP OD.”

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2017/10/25/xi-takes-full-control-of-chinas-future/

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://twitter.com/relevantorgans/status/923636616672960512

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Karl Barks posted:

do u guys think this is really him
it is

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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:siren: new thread title!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_xh7xIabk

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOQ3EQjIo5I&t=22s

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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A lot of non-LF posts in this thread.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Typo posted:

ok that's fair, the only non-american far left i've talked to have being chinese and they mostly are old people who just recites party slogans and wants to invade taiwan so yeah, they are far better than the avg lf poster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucd7ywONlhU&t=30s

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Much meme potential in that video.

Believe it or not, that song is from the governing party of Kerala, the state with the highest human development index in the whole drat country.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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I haven't met a lot of far-left from other countries but the ones I have met go waaaaaaaaaaay left and the countries they come from might surprise you. Morocco, India, etc. TAKE YOUR GRUBBY AMERICAN MITTS OFF CUBA.

And people who weren't way left but I would assume they weren't left at all, like the 58-year-old Korean dude who I met playing tennis, who wired helicopter harnesses for a living and spent a lot of his time volunteering at his church, was a big fan of Thomas Piketty.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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i played around with CKII but i kinda refuse to play it without all the expansions which are ridiculously priced in combination. eventually, though, and i'll play a chill-rear end jain.

HOI2 with darkest hour 4 lyfe

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Jose posted:

you get them in a sale so you're only out £60 not £120
i can stomach that

anyways meanwhile i have a few guards tank armies that need to steamroll NATO

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gytUsZ2sTSM

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Dreddout posted:

Yeah but it's arguably the most global of the modern paradox games. Even HOI is basically concerned with the major powers of WW2, to the point of Ethiopia, Vietnam, and Mexico having the exact same focus tree. EU at least has regional idea groups.
Step 1: Download HOI-Darkest Hour.

Step 2: Install Kaiserreich.

Step 3: Play syndicalist Mexico.

Step 4: Invade the United States during the Second American Civil War and seize the West.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://twitter.com/jessefelder/status/935539708356124673

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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OP updated

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UljAXknPpDg

Game sponsored by the Communist Youth League of China lol

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 03:46 on Dec 8, 2017

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Marxism-Leninism-Muad'Dibism

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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CIA got owned

https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/953408325613432833

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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BRB going to play CKII as one of the Indian rajas after watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MyUGq7pgs

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1aHYOyRphE

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Larry Parrish posted:

The tankies were right.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gytUsZ2sTSM

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Nothing but respect for my Xi Dada

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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I'll say Russia.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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China has a big bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself so I think it'll muddle through. The Moscow Times quoted an Uber driver today going to vote, and he said he voted for Putin because his friends had already stolen everything worth stealing so a new president would just start the process over again. That's some heavy cynicism.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gytUsZ2sTSM&t=107s

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GIj2BVJS2A

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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A Handed Missus posted:

this is amazing
Now I'm watching the Wallace interview that Jiang mentioned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4lVvVcraHM

And Wallace talking about the interview -- lmao at this CSPAN caller:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe2yU4TCFk0&t=796s

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 14:50 on Mar 30, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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R. Guyovich posted:

jiang zemin rules and all the people wringing their hands about xi being a cult of personality dictator have very short memories since the language used by western press to describe jiang was nearly identical
i'm noticing that

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Karl Barks posted:

china is a keynesian single party state with strict cultural controls. well, gotta go see ya
this post is outrageously reasonable!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Karl Barks posted:

i'm going to convince homework explainer, the noted ML who lives in china, that china is actually imperialist and not really all that communist
woah woah woah hold on a sec.

we've got to do this right.

*sets up podcasting mics*

*takes deep breath*

BLOOOODSPOOOOORTS

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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gradenko_2000 posted:

a recent Revolutionary Left Radio episode has an interview with Ajit Singh making the case for China as (still) a socialist state that I think is very relevant to this thread.
i'm gonna go listen to this

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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oh we're throwing links and papers and poo poo around? well

what

about

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgkWnODtS6g&t=295s

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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The Hoxhaists are posting from inside the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ReomdhA0Cg&t=182s

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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this page is a hoxhaist page

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