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This might seem like kind of a remedial question for this thread but I've only recently begun seriously educating myself on China so I'm still a dummy I'm looking for a clear answer on whether or not China has what we would call in the west universal healthcare. I have heard everything from "yes, it's a guaranteed right" to "no, it's worse than the west's" to "kinda, they have it but it barely covers anything and needs supplemented with private insurance to be worth a drat". Which is closer to the truth?
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Mar 20, 2021 19:11
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Kurnugia posted:by "the west", do you mean european healthcare, or american? kinda different standards is all I understand the American system better, so let's go with that
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Mar 20, 2021 19:58
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How drastic are the differences between regions? Like the same "basic" care is guaranteed for all regardless of where you live, right? To explain my question somewhat I was watching a badempanada video and he said China doesn't have socialized healthcare, which sounded off so I doubled-checked and little did I know it was a question with a pretty complicated answer lol. From what I gather the answer is "yes, but not for everything", so he was probably splitting hairs
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Mar 20, 2021 20:30
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Does anyone have a link to that tweet thread debunking the article about China wanting to make its kids more "masculine"?
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Mar 22, 2021 23:44
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Kind of a dumb and sensationalist toic by the standard of this (good and informative) thread, but I'm curious about something. Is there merit to the whole "Winnie the Pooh jokes get under Xi's skin" narrative? Is that kind of content actually heavily moderated in China or is this another "Kim Jong-un died for the 50th time today"-type story? It's always kinda had that smell to me, like meme lords patting themselves on the back for how transgressive they are
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Apr 6, 2021 15:15
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So the CPC Streisand Effect'ed it into relevancy?
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Apr 6, 2021 15:21
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Does anyone have any experience with China Law Translate? Is it considered pretty accurate? Badempanada cited it extensively in his new video on Xinjiang and I wanted to double check. Translation is always the bugbear when it comes to poo poo like this.
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Apr 6, 2021 19:59
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I'm still listening but if I can offer one criticism in advance it's that he's arguing against the most infantile, CPC-loyalist version of what he imagines the anti-genocide narrative to be. Like no poo poo we all know that China is engaged in a heavy handed crackdown on terrorism. That's not the debate that's being had right now in the west lol
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Apr 6, 2021 20:32
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lol gently caress this nazi, but also I had not heard of Zhang Weili and she seems pretty badass
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Apr 15, 2021 20:19
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indigi posted:who’s favored in the fight Zhang is the strawweight world champion with double the wins and half the losses of Namajunas. Communism will win
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Apr 16, 2021 00:48
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Was it falun gong that started the whole "China is harvesting organs" thing?
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Apr 17, 2021 18:02
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Any good docs/essays on falun gong? I find the whole mess very fascinating.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:10
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China has detained my young children (OPINION)
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Apr 19, 2021 20:12
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1385364055033012227?s=20
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Apr 23, 2021 13:00
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Syncopated posted:this doesn't make any sense!! The Osman empire had ceased to be when the genocide happened right? the historical analysis is as dumb as their assessment of Xinjiang
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Apr 23, 2021 17:12
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Bay Area 415 (an ML China booster on YT) did a collab with SecondThought on hate crimes against Asians, which isn't a huge deal in and of itself until you realize SecondThought has over a million subs and is probably the biggest western YT channel to push back against the Western China narrative. It's been nuts watching this guy go from normie type "I loving love science" videos where he got most of his subs to Marxism-Leninism and Xinjiang discourse lol. More people are starting to feel comfortable pushing back against obvious BS and this dude has a huge platform.
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Apr 30, 2021 15:59
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Same, I feel no real need to go on the defensive when the claims and the people making them are so suspect. I understand why people use that defense but it feels a little more desperate than I think we are. For example my response if someone said "X and Y Muslim countries *do* support the West's claims about Xinjiang" would be the same as the Xinjiang truthers' response to that defense: Muslim solidarity isn't really a thing between nations and Muslim-majority countries are not necessarily experts on the human rights of other Muslims
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Apr 30, 2021 16:52
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Xinjiang truthers keep citing China's annual stat yearbooks at me like they prove their point but that's only served to train me in reading said yearbooks lol. I'm starting to notice that the #1 go-to for these types is "look right here, the Chinese government is admitting it themselves, they put out the data so all you have to do is read it" and when you read it there's just...no follow up? Or the continued assertion that what they claim to be there must be there. It's like reading tea leaves. In the absence of proof they need to start interpreting figures cynically. Birth rate drops (after like one year where the birth rate spiked which actually represent the rate returning to normal) become nefarious when you go into it looking for a genocide. It all keeps coming back to the CPC apparently being too dumb to hide their evil doing, except when they do in which case they're perfidious and subtle.
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May 3, 2021 23:59
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I see's a population shift one way or the other I'm just gonna assume they're all dead, served me well enough so far
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May 4, 2021 19:08
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Agrajag posted:huh Oh totally, clever capitalists don't want to touch this with a 10-foot pole. I don't give Bloomberg or Kissinger any credit for rightly avoiding a war they can't win. I still find it interesting that as a class they're not united on this issue at all.
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May 6, 2021 18:31
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Saw my first "three fingers salute" fluff story on the morning news mentioning Hong Kong. Lots of appeals to the incredible military might of the US and photogenic people begging for intervention. They're tying it to the Hunger Games now apparently? "The hard power of the US military and the soft power of US culture", literal quote from the brain dead presenter lol. Truly demonic poo poo
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May 12, 2021 14:22
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BULBASAUR posted:is there a good summary somewhere of the Xinjiang / Uyghur situation? I get that there's tons of western propaganda going down and would like to understand it better Qiao Collective has a pretty great resource on this. https://www.qiaocollective.com/en/education/xinjiang
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May 13, 2021 20:14
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Flavahbeast posted:Michelle Bachelet's involvement is what makes me believe there could be something to the Xinjiang stuff, she's been requesting China allow a UN team to interview locals there for years. Why would a Chilean socialist be concerned if the rape and sterilization allegations are actually all CIA propaganda? This is the role that getting folks like Democracy Now or Socialist Alternative serves. "Socialists are good and anti-imperialist as a rule, their concern concerns me". They are not, in fact, anti-imperialist as a rule. Some folks with anti-imperialist credentials will even put that aside if it means scoring points in their age-old beef with their ideological rivals (the perfidious believers in "socialism in one country"). IMO no one's motivations are really above being questioned on this issue, on either side but especially the west's
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May 15, 2021 19:47
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The negligence required by the NED for two randos to worm their way into their call is immense, but I'm not sure how much of the "gotcha" they wouldn't just admit to openly at this point.
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May 17, 2021 23:08
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Are Chinese officials paying Uyghurs to show out and dance for Eid??? I mean yeah probably, they're under a lot of scrutiny and are highly motivated to present the communities they're responsible for in a positive light But I think it takes a smooth brain to think folks like that make up most or even a significant amount of those participating. "They're finding more and more witnesses" isn't a thing either lol, all of these reports have been citing the RFA tweet who in turn got their story from some white journalist interpreting what he sees as a lack of enthusiasm in the dancers. It's transparent as hell Deified Data has issued a correction as of 05:05 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 05:00
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The real story is that more and more eyes on the ground in Xinjiang are making the "it's prisons and demolished mosques as far as the eye can see" narrative impossible, so we've moved on to "this Uyghur religious celebration that should be illegal here looks kinda funny right? Why aren't they smiling more?". The desperation is real, especially after Palestine stole the news cycle from them
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May 18, 2021 05:04
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Xinjiang truthers, like all conspiracy theorists, are swiftly running up against the reality that if the subject of their obsession (the CPC) had the time, resources, and ability to manufacture reality before their very eyes they wouldn't keep getting caught "red-handed" as often as they think they are. Are they ruthlessly efficient or laughably incompetent?
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May 18, 2021 15:12
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I have seen like a dozen different ML accounts post dms from this person and they should really seek help
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May 24, 2021 23:22
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https://twitter.com/UndoubtedlyABot/status/1400234170299916290?s=19Grevling posted:It's going to be hard to enjoy DPRK artworks now that I know how the sausage is made so to speak. hosed up. How do you mean?
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Jun 3, 2021 15:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/StephenMcDonell/status/1400466643101224960?s=19 This owns where can I get these shirts
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Jun 5, 2021 18:55
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Venomous posted:CPUSA is still a CIA front, right I assume but from what I've heard of him he's a good dude
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Jun 7, 2021 22:51
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https://twitter.com/china_takes/status/1403379042548518914?s=20
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Jun 11, 2021 17:56
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This owns holy poo poo. Just cartoonish
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Jun 14, 2021 19:42
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Hot Karl Marx posted:So are tankies now just anyone left of liberals? Tankies are people who make you feel insecure in your leftist/progressive credentials. They might read a little more than you, be a little more media literate than you are, have a bit more world experience. You don't always understand why they support what they support or oppose what they oppose, but sometimes they support what you oppose or oppose what you support and there has to be something, anything you can use to pull rank. Leftists should feel powerless and alienated, and anyone who feels otherwise connected to an international movement, especially if they share sympathies with AES, should be looked on with suspicion because they're going to try to convince you to care about something, and you're too drat smart to fall for that. gradenko_2000 posted:every day we grow closer to someone saying "tankie" on the floor of the US Congress Marco Rubio
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Jun 21, 2021 18:45
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Democracy now has been very iffy for the last couple of years, especially with their guests being really bad. What's the story there? Did some NGO start funding them or something? Or was it more just liberals coopting a leftist media outlet? I think it's less they got co-opted and more they're just an expression of the same kind of tepid "neither washington nor moscow/beijing" boomer leftism that has been the only strain allowed to have a media presence of any significance. Notably they had Adrian Zenz on not too long ago lol
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Jun 22, 2021 14:47
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https://twitter.com/IranIntl_En/status/1407380570485805058?s=19
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Jun 23, 2021 02:29
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huhwhat posted:https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/chinese-students-lack-critical-thinking-due-propaganda lol "the simple Chinese have no concept of critical thinking", absolute nazi poo poo
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Jun 24, 2021 18:14
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"the Chinese are absolutely not convinced in the slightest by CPC propaganda, yet it still seeped in and shriveled their brains somehow" again reactionaries have not been able to offer an explanation for why so many Chinese people seem to trust their government that doesn't rely on a lot of racist assumptions
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Jun 24, 2021 18:19
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I wasn't really paying attention to Mulan when it came out but just kinda absorbed the negativity around it passively - what exactly was the issue again? I was not in a "question every story I hear about China" mindset at the time
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Jun 29, 2021 14:02
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lol how do I get one of those https://twitter.com/Comrade_Waluigi/status/1410288941006217216?s=20
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Jun 30, 2021 19:38
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