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Kefahuchi_son!!! posted:Serious post: If you just want to check out a good book about China, I recommend China Road by Rod Gifford. If you want to learn Chinese culture on a macro scale, check out Harvard's China series on edX. I double checked my collection of English books/audiobooks about China, frankly most of them have negative spin. For the record China has never committed to Communism as serious as other countries. There is always a Confucianism chassis doing heavy lifting for the state machine underneath the Communism and/or Capitalism skins. And the Chinese for the most part prefer Confucianism over whatever the import concepts even though "Confucianism" as a brand is tainted in Chinese conversation. What they really meant is "Sinicism" when they say Confucianism. tino has issued a correction as of 00:20 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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Dec 18, 2018 00:09
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Does Somali has unified government and process monopoly of state violent now? Or the Chinese just handshaked with one of the warlords and get to fish without harassment from the nearby pirates?
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Dec 19, 2018 08:20
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It's not concentration camp, they are basically the Laogai system (reeducation thru labor) that was disbanded in 2012. A TLDR version of Laogai is that it's basically lighter/minimum security prison faculties China doesn't want to call prison. When you think about it, Laogai was phased out by Hu at the end of his term and brought it right back by Xi at his 2nd term. tino has issued a correction as of 14:48 on Dec 19, 2018 |
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Dec 19, 2018 14:45
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Nah China will exchange default projects for operation ownership of ports for civilian/military dual use and never call them military bases.
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Dec 23, 2018 01:30
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Well hikers build proper alcohol stove with beer cans.
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Dec 24, 2018 13:51
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1077225810329825281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Dec 25, 2018 16:42
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Just access all your China threads from the user control panel, that way you can never be sure the irony level of the thread.
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Jan 1, 2019 00:12
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Xi's face always look so dead.
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Jan 1, 2019 01:00
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You know how 2019 can top 2018? Rare metal to be discovered in the Diaoyu Island.
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Jan 2, 2019 06:39
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You really don't need to go to Marx to explain Deng. Dengism = authoritarian politically + protected free market + minimize military budget to ally with US. There are plenty of examples from warring period and later dynasties. Nothing Deng has said strike me he believe in grand theories. Edit: also army required unconditional royalty to the party, not the state. tino has issued a correction as of 21:45 on Jan 2, 2019 |
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Jan 2, 2019 21:39
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Tiananmen played a direct role in the Eastern block countries folded so fast a couple years later because most people at power realized they had to commit to tank to continue the communist dictatorships. And people who still believe in Marxism couldn't bring themselves to do it. What happened in China was actually a lot closer to a palace power struggle than a ideological struggle, not trying to excuse Deng here. I was reading up on the Cixi and the failure of Hundred Day's Reform. Cixi actually was for the reform, she was just against losing power and control. Guangxu was her handpicked successor she raised herself from an toddler, after her son and husband had died. Guangxu really was her closest person. But when both sizes were moving toward a palace coup, the more powerful and merciless side inevitably won. And afterward Cixi had to lean on the conservatives because all the reform fractions had been killed along with Guangxu. I see quite a bit of similarity between Cixi/Guangci and Deng/Zhao Ziyang relationship. Neither Cixi nor Deng ever had political legitimacy. The main difference being Cixi sat on her rear end and did a slow reform afterward while Deng came out of retirement 4 years later and manually forced the economic reform schedule back on rail, with military backing.
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Jan 3, 2019 00:18
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Typo posted:Deng had enormous political legitimacy with the exception of the years 1989-1993 He was "retired" before that. Also he built the central polibureau system to prevent Mao style dictator. The system kinda lasted 20+ years.
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Jan 3, 2019 00:29
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Typo posted:Unfortunately Xi does not exert almost absolute control over North Korea, on the contrary Chinese leverage over North Korea is actually pretty weak. China has being pressuring the DPRK to tune down its nuclear program to no avail. The value of the DPRK as a buffer state is also fairly weak especially when the tail wags the dog too much. Still better than letting NK fail and getting swallowed by the south and turn into another unified Vietnam.
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Jan 4, 2019 11:07
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Taiwan doesn't have high tech stuff to steal.
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Jan 7, 2019 23:12
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Somebody turn that panda pic into a thread icon.
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Jan 10, 2019 22:07
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Nah Lin Biao was very reluctant to be the No. 2 of Mao, because Mao historically had jailed/killed a few Number Twos in the past. His escape was forced hand by his stupid son.
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Jan 11, 2019 19:47
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sincx posted:He should've flown to Seoul. Much closer. It was totally unplanned, he didn't know what he was doing and the plane made a turn on air. Typo posted:WRONG! quote:
700K soldier doesn't mean a lot if you don't have access ot the army inside Beijing and Zhongnanhai. His son probably thought he was Li Shimin reincarnated and tried to force the emperor's cloth on his dad.
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Jan 11, 2019 20:23
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:ok the typo gimmick is funny now taht everyone is responding to him seriously I use a text only Chrome extension "decrease productivity" at work, I don't see the avatar of the poster I reply to. So I play this thread straight face.
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Jan 12, 2019 02:27
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Zhou is a handsome guy.
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Jan 12, 2019 10:21
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I woke up to 90 new posts of Shen Yun chat. Also found out Lowtax is (not) paying alimony? If Shen Yun is back by Falun Gong, then Falun is already more successful than Scientology.
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Jan 16, 2019 13:52
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mila kunis posted:https://www.ft.com/content/8f08f824-1a5f-11e9-b93e-f4351a53f1c3 Don't post link that's behind loving paid wall.
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Jan 17, 2019 20:28
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Id that really Xi? I have never seen any emotion from him. Also yeah the manspreading guy is photo bombing Xi.
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Jan 26, 2019 07:45
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No just read the manga. You can finish it in 2 weeks.
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Jan 30, 2019 18:55
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Xaris posted:so what's the deal with Tencent and CCP. like tencent is just throwing barrels of cash buying up western gaming stuff. is there some particular endgame there with tencent/ccp with building foreign database and doing facebooky poo poo, or do they just figure they can get more profits out of buying a bunch of western game studios? Trying to get rid of their cash inside China and own more concrete things. That's my guess. BTW, I have a classmate who used to made WM software and sold his business to tencent and became a management. He said the most popular battle royale mobile game from tencent are not allowed to make money even though its the most popular game, because the party is not giving the approval. He didn't say approval of what but I assume to sell microtransaction? I don't play mobile games. tino has issued a correction as of 12:11 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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Feb 1, 2019 12:04
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I feel the opening chapter of the Communist Manifesto deserve a Conan style monologue, and a loving epic score. Get Han Zimmer on the phone.
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Feb 2, 2019 08:44
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Beijing residences will never say anything bad about the CCP government because the insane amount of wealth they have acquired in the last two decades through property inflation directly tie to the stability of the CCP aystem. They are the first 1% beneficiary of the current system. When I said residences, I meant actual Beijingren and Shanghairen who have the hukous. This is an unspoken contract stuck by the party and the residences to avoid another Tiananmen. This is the CCP version of building a state of art colosseum to provide free entertainment. If your entire capaital city population are middle class you don't get people walking on the street en mass. I haven't seen China specialist discuss it.
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Feb 3, 2019 19:25
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:uwe boll is clearly taking advantage of chinese film subsidies Capcom finally reveal Ada Wong's back story.
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Feb 4, 2019 05:55
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Modest Mao posted:how many people in this thread even learned via traditional. I did. simplified did not look, at any point, like a time saver. Simplified standardize shorthand ways to write components of characters that traditional users are already doing in fast hand writing and combines similar characters are that only slightly different in meaning. It's better simply because every character has get on an interrogation chart to make its case that why it need to be exist. This goes for most writing system reforms in most cultures/countries. Of course it doesn't matter now when you only use keyboards to input Chinese. It reminds me of the expensive canal New York dug to stimulate trade and it was made obsoleted only decades later by the inversion of railroad.
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Feb 5, 2019 13:57
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Fallen Hamprince posted:The advantage of simplified characters is mostly that they’re frequently much easier to write then their traditional counterparts. Many of the simplifications already existed before ‘Simplified’ was formalized as a standard set of characters, as shorthand used when handwriting. This btw is why Japanese Kanji share some of the same simplifications. Of course everybody now just uses keyboard input so it’s irrelevant. Simplified does not reduce the number of characters except to remove calligraphic variants of the same character. A pure sounding system doesn't work for Chinese because there are too many words with the identical sounds. If you use zhuyin or pinyin to input Chinese you should know that there are some combination of sounds bring up 20+ words for selection. I believe this is a ptoblem with Vietnamese writing but that's just what I heard, maybe Vietnamese is more like Cantonese which have more variety of sounds.
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Feb 5, 2019 17:57
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Xelkelvos posted:Adopting a mix of characters with zhuyin would probably be the most effective amelioration to that issue, but beyond that, it's largely just solved by context. Spoken language already has this issue, doesn't it? I think the difference is that spoken Chinese/language use limited set of words while literature Chinese use more words. Also when you are speaking, you can use selective emphasis of sounds and gestures to help you. Also current Chinese writing system already include the sound information. Right half of a character usually carry the sound information; and the left half carry the contest. That's why you can use a single character to express a word. For example most of the provinces have a single-character name. Now if you reduce the word to just sound you can not do that anymore. For example on Chinese license plate, you use "粤A" to represent plates from Guangzhou, if you just write "Yue A" you have no idea which Yue is this. And "Guangzhou" would take up too much space. Also there are more than one city called "Guangzhou". tino has issued a correction as of 20:39 on Feb 5, 2019 |
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Feb 5, 2019 20:36
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Xelkelvos posted:You say "usually" which means this isn't a universal case. Then there's the weird case of foreign words/names in text that's transliterated. I know sound-alikes are used, but what determines which character is used besides its sound and how would one know that it's a foreign name rather than a real phrase? If it's just context, then wouldn't that resolve a lot of similar issues regarding homophones in Chinese that become homographs in a purely zhuyin system? Nobody above the level of grade school literacy would mistaken a foreign transliterated name to a Chinese word. There a set of strict translation rules mainland media has to follow. Unless you are talking about Hong Kongnese way of intentionally making a foreign name look and sound like Chinese. quote:Your license plate example, doesn't make sense here afaict and language on license plates isn't really something one uses as an example of written language as there's all sorts of ways to display that information in a clear way than just a single letter/character. Is there more than one province of Guangzhou? I'm not surprised there's more than one city with that name, but the same applies in practically every country. Hell, there are cities in the US that have the same name as states. You don't even know if Guangzhou is a city or a province, why am I wasting time with you. LOL. Japanese writing is a bad example because it's the most complicated writing system of the world. Part of the problem is that it still borrow too much from a foreign writing system (Chinese) while its words pronunciation sound nothing like Chinese. So you ends up with using Kanzi for the core meaning but can not reuse them to help with the sound. Korean writing is example of good writing reform, Japanese is not.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:35
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If normal animation is too expensive even for china, there is no hope for animation.
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Feb 9, 2019 18:51
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I have been wondering if the Uighurs camps are different from Mao's anti rightist educational camps from the 60s. I don't remember seeing any picture of the righist camp, at least we have some picture of the Uighurs camp. Btw its impossible for me to spell the word "Uighurs" correctly without looking up the word. Why can't English have more consistent spelling.
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Feb 13, 2019 18:59
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Xelkelvos posted:Uyghur is also an acceptable spelling fwiw Hopefully in a few decades，it changes to Weeger or weegur for better branding.
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Feb 13, 2019 21:35
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Stop loving quoting twitter. Is this how bbs forums get with the millennials?
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Feb 16, 2019 00:15
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Which body has the best "erradically running infant" tracking?
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Feb 16, 2019 18:08
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I wonder if India is uplifting any percentage of her poor out of the slum or the rich to poor ratio remain the same. Anyway Marx was right, probably turn out to be more right than Einstein.
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Feb 17, 2019 11:26
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Mantis42 posted:Well Britain's moment of triumph was Waterloo. They had fought almost continuous wars with France and it was the deep reserves of capital their modern banking system provided that allowed them to outlast Napoleon. They were even heavily subsidizing the other Coalition powers. With their largest colonial rival weakened they swallowed the world. It wasn't a complete victory, the world was still multipolar, but it remained so precisely because the UK's economic revolution was exported and imitated by other Europeans, America, and eventually the world. American Capitalism only works in an expending market. Once the entire globe is saturated with liberal capitalism the big fishes have to start eating the small fishes, hence the financial crisis. To quote something I heard on youtube, we are at the full swing of the Second Glided Age.
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Feb 17, 2019 13:33
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SaTaMaS posted:India has also been a source of CEOs for US tech companies, meanwhile I'm sure China will stop depending on intellectual property theft for tech innovation *any day now*. I am sure they do it already but it would be stupid for the Indians not landrush the western ideas and build their own Fortnite.
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Feb 17, 2019 21:24
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Lightning Knight posted:Do China and India still have contested borders and poo poo? They do during elections.
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Feb 17, 2019 22:08
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