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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Ardennes posted:

(Btw I think there is a difference between Canadian residency schools since Canada wanted ( or seemed like it did at least ) to eradicate the identity of native peoples entirely but China wants Uyghur identity to follow a heavily codified form.)

this seems like splitting hairs

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Ardennes posted:

The is a reason why "ghosts" and "supernatural elements" are banned in media in China.

that is....insane

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

mila kunis posted:

i was reading about vietnam's local car manufacturer, and apparently vietnam has a billionaire now and i was reading about his conglomerate and jesus that's a wide range of business to run



more 👏 communist 👏 billionaires👏

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
it would be good if China and India don't do a nuclear war

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

stephenthinkpad posted:

Seem to be pretty peaceful Chengguan operation


That's not machete, that's Guan Yu's blade. Whatever you call it.

a guandao

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cgtn is an unimpeachable source

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
firing nukes because of a diplomatic recognition would be insanely evil

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
the US doesn't have to invade anyone to seriously gently caress them up

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

I don't even understand how you come to those conclusions with that evidence

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
don’t we all

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

wow cool

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Mantis42 posted:

That "simulated video" is just editing together b roll from a bunch of other sources, including, I believe, The Hurt Locker.

does that make it not simulated video

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Kevin DuBrow posted:

Noted author of bad journalistic takes Matt Yglesias wrote a book called ONE BILLION AMERICANS about how the U.S. needs to increase its population to match China's to preserve U.S. hegemony (his words).

https://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/1307472038123073536?s=20

does the book ever address why one would want to preserve US hegemony

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Throatwarbler posted:

Also I heard some snippets of an interview with him and I think he actually proposes to get there by accpeting 600 million climate refugees from Bangladesh and Subsaharan Africa?

loving lmao

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
how do you integrate 600 million people who have directly suffered due to American hegemony into wanting to uphold it

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Cao Ni Ma posted:

the little fucker upstairs running around at 1am in the morning and then back to running at 5am begs to differ, and thats just me. I cant imagine how the parents deal with him

apparently they "love" them or something

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Antonymous posted:

I remember weibo blew up over some chinese international student who gave her commencement speech about how living in the US was way better than China

But I was thinking if some dumbfuck american went to france and said 'vive la france' or w/e you'd never hear about it because who gives a gently caress

If you criticize the US we just ignore your rear end, we'd never write some dumb whataboutism letter unless it was actually a sick burn & I think that's real power

the sensitivity to criticism and need to 'do something about it' is showing a lot of insecurity

I think if you're genuinely interested in global cooperation and resisting the US you don't care about "real power" (read: imperial power) in those terms anyway

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

uninterrupted posted:

they’re also made up happy to help


you’re right China isn’t doing anything bad

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Rabelais D posted:

I don't get it; eliminating poverty is very good, as is controlling covid better than anyone else (except maybe Taiwan?), but cracking down on journalism is bad and can be called bad. The Washington Post article is, however, pretty terrible:

"I first came to Kashgar in 2006 as a tourist, crossing the border from Kyrgyzstan. I remembered it as a magical place of Uighur people who looked Central Asian and spoke a Turkic language written in Arabic script, as a city of fresh figs and kebab smoke and a rowdy Sunday animal market, as a surprising and enchanting destination that just happened to be within China's borders"

She talks about it like she wandered onto the set of Aladdin and is sad that's no longer the case; the editors need to learn to spot orientalism when they see it. Calling the bad reporter a "spy" is a bit much.

if I wandered onto the set of Aladdin I would be sad if, when I went back, that were no longer the case

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

smh

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

rudatron posted:

And yet somehow it's the US backed regimes that end up with better civil liberties and freedoms, and the ones that oppose the US have the worst. A very strange coincidence.

you're not even trying

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I demand the right to say the r word!!

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I must be allowed to say the r word! my vocabulary requires it!!

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I wish I could get a job acting in Chinese movies as the evil fat capitalist American general/politician/CIA operative/businessman

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Antonymous posted:

They usually get disgraced A listers like Adrian Brody, Jean Claude van dam, and John Cusak

I’d be a better actor than all of them but admittedly I can’t do the splits

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
a mild servant of the people worth one point five billion dollars

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

it's the 70th anniversary of the chinese intervention in the korean war and kim jong un is visiting a grave site of PLA volunteers

also the intro to this is funny because the north korean soldier does the flag twirl thing like the chinese honor guards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn31F6pkXtw

how come the tanks don't gently caress up the roads? also: making them paint their faces seems a bit excessive

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

quote:

Friends of Hong Kong, which describes itself as defending “rights, freedom and democracy” in Hong Kong, said Chung contacted the group in October, wishing to petition the U.S. government for asylum. The group spoke to The Post on the condition that the other four who sought refuge at the consulate were not named.

probably just a lie

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

quote:

In policy recommendations for the nation’s upcoming five-year plan, released on Tuesday, the Communist Party’s Central Committee called for deepening mixed-ownership reform, and it particularly vowed to promote the market-oriented reform of energy, railway, telecom and public utilities.

having these sectors be market-oriented sounds kind of lovely and bad, or am I misunderstanding what this means?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
ah, socialism

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
yeah nobody’s making money in China

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Julie Weed

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

IAMKOREA posted:

not seeing how his analysis of biden's campaign - where he shat himself on camera and had to hide for weeks at a time due to severe bouts of dementia - is wrong?

I'm glad amateur-psychiatric-diagnosis-at-a-distance will be sticking around under Biden, it was definitely one of the more helpful things to come out of the liberal reaction to Trump's presidency. definitely not ableist or anything

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
free movement for capital, restricted movement for citizens. as Marx intended

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Ardennes posted:

Lenin was negotiating trade agreements with the West as early as 1918.

c’mon

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Ardennes posted:

From China's perspective they are still a "peripheral state" but they are using that exploitation to their advantage.

who is China peripheral to wrt the RCEP

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

ofc this free trade treaty is not a bad thing, it is mostly a geopolitical maneuver by china to pull much of Asia closer to it and reduce American imperial influence and will mostly materially benefit the countries involved. but i dont understand why the need to pretend it is socialist.

will it mostly materially benefit the countries involved or will it mostly materially benefit capitalists

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

stephenthinkpad posted:

As far as the current Chinese economic model, you don't need to call it "State Capitalism", because it's distinctive enough from any other country. You can call it "CPP Capitalism" or Dengonomic or whatever roll off the tongue better. In fact the State Capitalism branding was from the international capital (The Economists Magazine)

I call it "crapitalism"

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Fuligin posted:

it just seems premature to me to say that they 'own' the means of production within the country when state firms are still a huge proportion of employment and the party can take any private firm away from the capitalists with a snap of their fingers if they wish.

so what are they waiting for

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Mantis42 posted:

e: Percentage of SoEs is meaningless when Xi's strategy is to exert control over private firms by forcing them to cede managerial ground to party cadres.

extracting surplus value from workers and transferring it to capitalists seems pretty meaningful from a socialist perspective

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

stephenthinkpad posted:

the CCP use inflated apartment cost to hold the private wealth inside China and keep the capital flight in check.

stephenthinkpad posted:

Over inflated property price is also a problem for all international metropolitans.

socialism is supposed to have solutions for this (that don’t require shifting the burden onto renters)

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Top City Homo posted:

the CCP made a decision to integrate into the world economy and now has a realistic opportunity to take its commanding heights and reshape the rules

yeah, that’s what the rich and powerful usually do from commanding heights

Ardennes posted:

Arguably you would need to do one before the other in either case.

if its solution to beating capitalism is “do capitalism but harder” then maybe socialism is bunk anyway

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