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Dimebags Brain posted:I keep seeing this sentiment posted in regards to WWE and honestly, at this point, is that even true? Other than Bryan, who o the WWE roster is better than Okada? Tanahashi? Shingo? Omega? Ibushi? Naito? YAMATO? Ben-K? The Bucks? Fenix? PAC? ok like I'm not even a regular NJPW watcher but your first question is "who on the WWE roster is better than the best wrestler in the history of wrestling" and I know you followed him up with other names but maybe temper them expectations a bit
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Mob posted:ok like I'm not even a regular NJPW watcher but your first question is "who on the WWE roster is better than the best wrestler in the history of wrestling" and I know you followed him up with other names but maybe temper them expectations a bit i don't know what you're talking about, Ben-K is the 8th name on that list
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yeah you shouldn't include okada or the fiend when comparing the roster talent like that. it's about depth
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Dimebags Brain posted:I keep seeing this sentiment posted in regards to WWE and honestly, at this point, is that even true? Other than Bryan, who o the WWE roster is better than Okada? Tanahashi? Shingo? Omega? Ibushi? Naito? YAMATO? Ben-K? The Bucks? Fenix? PAC? All some of, if not at one time considered the best wrestlers in the world over the last 20 years The point I'm trying to make is even with some of the greatest wrestlers from the last 20 years on the roster, the WWE is still horrible to watch, while AEW are taking up relative nobodies and turning them into must-see a year after their Dynamite debuts. Maki Itoh hasn't even been on Dynamite yet and there's a ton more people excited to see her than Io f'n Shirai, the reigning NXT Women's Champion. WWE could have Okada win the Rumble, go to Wrestlemania, and the following year people would've completely lost interest in him because the WWE product is just poisonous. They've managed to sink the value on every big name they've had in the last several years, and they'll stay that way until they go to other companies (Like Moxley and KENTA)
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RealFoxy posted:I said the best wrestler(s) not THE best wrestler. Owens, Zayn, Daniel Bryan, Styles, Nakamura, Asuka, Io Shirai, Johnny Gargano, Adam Cole the fact that you didn't even remember La Sombra speaks volumes
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Alaois posted:the fact that you didn't even remember La Sombra speaks volumes La Sombra died on the way to his home planet
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Pinche Rudo posted:La Sombra died on the way to his home planet Planet Tranquilo......
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Rush and Naito just took all his Charisma leaving the husk in WWE
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La Sombra retired to pull a 6-figure check, marry a bombshell who is visually the most pro wrestler-looking person ever, and catch the residuals for an old fart without technically being on the hook for *most* of his debt when he dies My man is doin alright
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RealFoxy posted:WWE could have Okada win the Rumble, go to Wrestlemania, and the following year people would've completely lost interest in him because the WWE product is just poisonous. That could happen, true, but it doesn't change the fact that he's still, currently, the best wrestler out of everyone to ever do it. He could spend the next decade trading the 24/7 belt with R-Truth during commercial breaks and he's still going to be the best. Take a ride on his boat with Chuck and Trent if you don't believe me.
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Anyone and R-Truth is a dream match for me. So is anyone and Toru Yano. Legally I can't say what Toru Yano vs R-Truth would mean to me because we have anti-horny laws
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Holy poo poo Dave casually talking poo poo on what a loser failson Shane McMahon is on the latest WOR was incredible 
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I wanted more debate on the merits of prostate exams vs watching raw
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jesus WEP posted:I wanted more debate on the merits of prostate exams vs watching raw You've got to keep your hole healthy.
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Rick posted:If Okada and R-Truth isn't a dream match for you I don't know what to say. tag team where in kayfabe they are both each other’s imaginary partners
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Jerusalem posted:Holy poo poo Dave casually talking poo poo on what a loser failson Shane McMahon is on the latest WOR was incredible I've never heard the word "failure" used so emphatically so often e: Oh my God going from last night's WOR to yesterday's F4D is incredible for how absolutely done Bryan is with WWE. Dango Bango fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 2, 2021 |
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The sigh of frustration Bryan lets out at one point in the Raw recap is among the funnier moments of the year.
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MassRafTer posted:The sigh of frustration Bryan lets out at one point in the Raw recap is among the funnier moments of the year. "Now there's a MORE EVIL Randy Orton." "He's supposed to be a baby face." died.
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Bryan straight up telling Dave he refuses to watch Fastlane if the Miz is in the title match, haha. "There has to be a line!"
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Bryan has cracked but no quantity of terrible wrestling can even bend Iron Dave Meltzer
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Bad Raw means good WOLs so I'm all for it.
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Royal Updog posted:Bryan has cracked Literally! His voice was cracking he was getting so frustrated going through his Raw review 
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MotU posted:tag team where in kayfabe they are both each other’s imaginary partners I can picture this, it would be so good.
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Randy Orton is the quintessential guy that Dave will talk endlessly about what a good worker he is and he’s so smooth and great. **3/4. Not as good as my favourite genre of match review, which is the one where Dave spends the whole time complaining about how dangerous all the palm strikes and head drops were and how he’s really concerned about the well being of the wrestlers. *****1/2
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Dave talks up Orton for the HOF every year but doesn't vote for him. I love it.
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There's been times on WOR over the past year where Dave has started to turn on Randy being a Hall of Famer, times where he looked at Orton's output being underwhelming even if you just grade matches on a WWE scale. So he's getting there And hell a long running feud with the Fiend could do it. May be the only good thing the Fiend does ever
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Dave talks up Orton for the HOF every year but doesn't vote for him. I love it. He was originally on his ballot last year but he dropped him for Ishii when he realised that Randy Orton's best match ever was surpassed by twenty Ishii matches in the last two years alone.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:There's been times on WOR over the past year where Dave has started to turn on Randy being a Hall of Famer, times where he looked at Orton's output being underwhelming even if you just grade matches on a WWE scale. So he's getting there There was that one where he was coming to a slow epiphany of "Sure, everyone agrees that Orton should be in the hall of fame, but he doesn't ever seem to have a really great match..."
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I think we might have had this conversation before, but what IS Randy Orton's best match? Vs. Mick Foley waaaaaay loving back in like 2004?
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Jerusalem posted:I think we might have had this conversation before, but what IS Randy Orton's best match? Vs. Mick Foley waaaaaay loving back in like 2004? vs edge the week after hbk vs cena in uk
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vs Dolph Ziggler on a random Raw from 2011. Plus that series with Christian from 2011 produced some really good matches.
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jesus WEP posted:Randy Orton is the quintessential guy that Dave will talk endlessly about what a good worker he is and he’s so smooth and great. **3/4. Just imagining Dave’s Yelp profile now.
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JOHN CENA posted:vs edge the week after hbk vs cena in uk Oh yeah I remember that match, they both had a bug up their rear end about their scheduled match not happening due to the other from memory, and put in a hell of an effort. I still think the Foley match was the best one though.
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