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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Bryan vinny nwa shows are the best shows of the week

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


hearing Dave and Bryan talk about Paulo Costa's physicque and how he can be a superstar and not even mention that his body looked like Vitor Belfort on a bender and acting like he was au naturale was really depressing

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.



No

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Watching Labor insist on kicking an own goal over citizenship when it comes to referring their own members going No No lalalalala will be the most Bill Shorten thing. You got gifted the moral high ground now lets make sure we are the villains and appear as obfuscating piss possums.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Argh wrong thread

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


B&V has hit peak retro in Austin v Rock full swing, the sheer joy of Austin and Rock and McMahon is not changed in retrospect - they were just that loving good. Everything around them sucks, which is a theme in that this will never happen again and thats ok but stop trying to make this happen again.

Between this and the NWA shows its the best shows.

Lid fucked around with this message at Nov 15, 2017 around 19:39

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Benne posted:

I dunno, they're in for some rough times when they get to 99 and Raw doubles down on Russo-ism

Yes but it also means things like Crash Holly, Y2J and KURT ANGLE

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


How Kurt didn't win the WON rookie of the year award in 1999 (Blitzkrieg did) is lifes biggest mystery.

Edit: just realised in the entire history of the rookie awards only two WWE wrestlers have ever been rookies of the year - Chad Gable and Tom Zenk in 1984 and Zenk tied for that award with some no name guy called Keiichi Yamada who no one has heard that name of since 1984.

(Brock should've won over Bob Sapp)

Lid fucked around with this message at Nov 16, 2017 around 00:15

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Didnt stop Matt Riddle

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
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I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Omg

Lid fucked around with this message at Nov 22, 2017 around 23:17

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


this weeks retro raw is amazing for being the most russoriffic "car crash television" episode ever and so0 much poo poo happening that Bryan missed some thing that Vince wrote down and Vince missed things Bryan wrote down

also Stone Cold as New Jack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH7AYkZuERE

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.



Tully & Arn
Mr Wrestling
Killer Karl Kox
Yuji Nagata
Akira Taue

also lol big daddy

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Naito is no way near a hall of famer, hell i'm even eh on Shinsuke Nakamura being inducted so early (though he would've gotten in at retirement anyway)

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/936139758845140992

The others are Mike and Ben Sharpe, Pedro Morales and Mark Lewin

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Tully and Arn got less votes than Edge thats just not right

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Dave compared Yuji Nagata with Jun Akiyama as the same as both are borderline and never were quite there. I sincerely hope hes wrong in Nagata.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


MassRafTer posted:

They deserve less votes than Edge.

nope

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Except Rey did a lot for lucha libre in North America and worldwide and Jericho exists beyond the wrestling sphere. Orton did...

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


It's 20 years on and people can still recall Jericho's WCW heel run, Y2J, first undisputed champion (lol), glitter jacket, scarves, the list...

Orton has...

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Feels Villeneuve posted:

Yeah at this point Sting is in so you may as well put every good working WWE midcarder from this era in. Welcome to the Hall of Fame, Sheamus.

Im sorry you didnt get Big Daddy in again

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


HPJoker posted:

Sexy Star on the basis that she shouldn't have been pushed anywhere to begin with and is still being pushed in places after she shot on Rosemary


It's Gran Metalik but he's so underpushed that most of the voting bloc might've forgotten about him... and no one watches 205 live

Sexy Star should've won most overpushed last year but definitely given this years fiasco

And thank you for reminding me Gran Metalik exists because that is the correct answer that I had to be reminded that on the WWE roster is one of the best luchadores in the entire world and forgetting he exists isn't difficult

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Good Listener posted:

Listening to Saturday's observer like...I really do not agree with much of what Dave says about Randy Orton staying on top when he's literally one of those "boss's choice" boys for years.

His obsession with drawing during that particular era as the defining feature or Orton to be a HoF just elicits question marks from me. When I think of WWF or WCW Hall of Famers the standard more than drawing is memories. Lets take Ted DiBiase who was already in the HoF in 1996 - maybe people only partly watched wrestling but everyone beyond remembered The Million Dollar Man, legendary manager and self-promoter and laugh. Bryan on an utterly unrelated topic years ago when talking about Randy Savage talked about how before Savage died when people would find out he was a wrestler they would ask him "you remember the Macho Man?" because he was more than a draw, he was an iconic entity. It's by this standard why i'm more forgiving of Sting too because Sting is, ironically, the icon.

Orton... no one is going to be "you guys remember the Randy Orton?" When you look back at the ruthless aggression/PG era Orton was always in the main events but no one is like "oh man that Orton". He stands waaaaaaaay behind John Cena, and even Batista and no one even talks about Batista as a HoF. Edge even is remembered more with his Rated R run, him being with Vicky Guerrero.

But it all comes back to house show draws, ratings and workrate for Dave on Orton and everyone else looking at Dave saying "you're wrong".

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


El Gallinero Gros posted:

In hindsight, I'm kind of surprised WCW or TNA never had a situation like the one that happened in ECW where someone got injured by fire/incompetence/lack of planning in such a way that they got sued. I'm actually REALLY surprised TNA has never been sued by fans at all (that I know of).

Although TNA had their roof catch fire once, I think.

Most of the people involved with the Junkyard Invitational could've successfully sued.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Start with when Goldberg debuted

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


mariooncrack posted:

The Bryan and Vinny Christmas show is up.
The Brent call is the best

Days late but got around to listening to this

I literally couldn't breathe

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Jerusalem posted:

Oh poo poo is the Foley wins the Title Raw the next Retro show they're doing?

The glass breaking is the biggest pop in history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KybuIy0wKXk

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


listening to the best of f4 and the inclusion of wrestling observer live introducing me to scottish braun fan

this man is the dumbest man i have ever heard and has never watched a fight in his life

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Prime Ronda vs Prime Arn Anderson in a shoot fight

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


This years f4 best of included zero coverage of any of the NWA shows including Flair and the weekly coverages of the worst jobbers in history and their amaxing abilities.

This best of was useless as that was week in week out the best thing on any show.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


MassRafTer posted:

Did you completely miss the coverage of the raunchiest segment ever?

that was WWF Wrestlevision

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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I... hit the shitty
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IT'S HERE

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
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THE MIGHTY WILBUR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W-ZlwbFvT0

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/st...387468090298368

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


MassRafTer posted:

I am surprised more people aren't talking about Bryan's refusal to run his dishwasher story from B/V/C.

I'm surprised theres less talking about how much Bryan hates CM Punk in 2008-2009

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


PaybackJack posted:

Hyperbole. It's bad but it only lasts for 2 minutes and has a worthwhile post match pay off. Jenna/Sharmell is like 6-7 minutes long bell to bell and there is no pay off.

Coming back to this but it is funny there are levels of the worst match ever, where the standard is Sharmell vs Jenna and things are graded on that scale.

There was some Lucha Libre USA match that at the time they said was worse in every way than Sharmell/Jenna and they never even remember it exists, but they do remember Rebel v Shelley and sometimes Bushwhackers/Ivan Shiek.

Fake edit: oh god i found the match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxPEnbjADgk#t=1110s

Mascarita Dorada & Octagoncito vs Pequeno Halloween & Tigresa Caliente (Rhaka Khan)

real edit: noones monitoring Rhaka Khan's wikipedia

quote:

She returned again in the second season not with Chi Chi, but with Mini Park's ex-wife. It was during this season that Tigresa attempted to murder two minis, Mascarita Dorada and Octagoncito.

Lid fucked around with this message at Jan 20, 2018 around 07:25

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Video recordings that aren't even live streamed and charging for a "beta" when people have no idea what they're getting. They might be on drugs because they ain't dealers giving out free tasters.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.



Hahhahahahahhahaha

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Jerusalem posted:

On the other hand, I love your King Cuerno AV

What happened to King Cuerno? Way back when I remember WWE wanted to poach him because he was good, was tall, had a good body, and most importantly to them could speak fluent English. Then Lucha Underground poo poo went down and he just disappeared which is a deep shame.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

Cabana's legal advice?
I'm bourgeoisie.
I... hit the shitty
firemans carry knee.


Thanks to video retro Bryan Vinny shows i have now learned Bryan has amazing hair and looks like the brother of Jesse Eisenberg

also the debut of Blitzkrieg (and Torrie Wilson)

Lid fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2018 around 03:11

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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