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Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

"it's a bot! it's a bot!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob


Humerus posted:

gently caress me I wrote that whole post meaning the Pro, not the plus. I have an old Chromebook (Intel 2840 I think??) and while I know its age and 2GB of RAM are probably why it's so slow I've decided that moving forward I'm definitely going with an m3. I guess I'll try to check out the Pro at Best Buy, I went to one a couple weeks ago that had a Pro on display but it was missing the pen.

I thought that might have been what you meant.

Your old CB there is one of the hardware configurations that I've been steering people away from. 2 GB of RAM is a no-go (4 GB minimum for any PC, regardless of OS) and the N2840 or similar CPUs are terribly slow.

Any of the new CBs will be a huge upgrade in terms of performance.

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Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

lelandjs posted:

Dumb question I suppose but have you tried power washing?

Multiple times; along with disabling the play store, re-enabling it, reinstalling the app, etc. I also want to note that it is every android app that is crapping out, and has been afflicting me almost exclusively after one of their updates.

On an aside, it is kind of annoying that the only support help that Google can provide for such issues is "completely reset your device, settings and apps and hope it works again". Powerwashing has been the only substantive suggestion that Google support staff has been able to give me after multiple inquiries to them.

Google has always been much more of a beta test atmosphere with their services, but if they are going to start offering (and charging prices for) Apple-esque experiences, they need to get their poo poo together with it.

Cheesemaster200 fucked around with this message at May 13, 2018 around 04:13

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

"it's a bot! it's a bot!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob


Ah, that sucks, but it sounds like something was broken in a recent OS update, so hopefully that'll be fixed in an upcoming update.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

FWIW, the Android apps I've been using on my Pixelbook like series guide have been rock solid.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

"it's a bot! it's a bot!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob


Yeah, that's why I try to reiterate that CB users can have quite different experiences with Android apps despite having the same hardware, except that's no consolation if you're one of the unlucky ones.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008


So my company is paying for my masters degree and I wanted something light and cheap I could take with me to study at coffee shops and bring with me to class (it is a hybrid online/in class program for IT). Chromebooks immediately came to my mind, because in reality I do most of my work with Google Docs (though I also have office 365 through my company I prefer google for its cloud features) and also wanted something I could use to remote into my desktop.

After some research, I ended up getting an Acer R11 flip for like $230 through Costco. After a few days messing with it, and getting Crouton/Linux installed, I couldn't be happier. It is very lightweight, I actually like the tablet mode (netflix streams really well on it) and I noticed I can have a dozen tabs, google drive, and Crouton running with minimal slowdown. Battery life seems good too, now all I need is to get an SD card so I can expand the storage even further.

And yes, Android apps works great on it!

Food Boner
Jul 2, 2005

Nothing matters


bull3964 posted:

FWIW, the Android apps I've been using on my Pixelbook like series guide have been rock solid.

same


also i've not used the pen yet in about a month of owning

Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.


College Slice

Humerus posted:

I'm having a difficult time deciding between the Samsung Chromebook Plus and the Asus C302.

The aspect ratio is kind of a wash for me, I think the Samsung would be better for my purposes (school work and web browsing) but I also don't think I would mind the Asus' ratio. Mainly what I'm having trouble with is whether the stylus in the Plus is worth it. My idea is that I'll be using the Chromebook itself to write notes rather than use a pen and paper. I know I can get a stylus that will work with the Asus, but is the Samsung's purpose-built? As in, will it feel better/be easier to write with the Samsung vs. the Asus with a stylus?

I was deciding between the two as well and what pushed me over the edge was the keyboard. In my hands the C302 is 1000x better, but if you have tried them both and don't care then that wouldn't matter to you.

lelandjs
Feb 18, 2011


[Edit: nevermind, got my laptops confused]

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

For anyone who has installed Linux on one of these: What is the experience like? I have an HP Chromebook 14 and its... okay. I don't really like using mainly web apps, and lately Chrome has been really crashy (even after a powerwash and update). My fear is that battery life is going to suck and that the lackluster specs will not hold up to the hype in my head. It wouldn't be for anything serious: Some light web development, Firefox and that's about it.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Yam Slacker

unruly posted:

For anyone who has installed Linux on one of these: What is the experience like? I have an HP Chromebook 14 and its... okay. I don't really like using mainly web apps, and lately Chrome has been really crashy (even after a powerwash and update). My fear is that battery life is going to suck and that the lackluster specs will not hold up to the hype in my head. It wouldn't be for anything serious: Some light web development, Firefox and that's about it.

Once you're gotten it installed, and applied the very helpful automated fixes for the hardware stuff that doesn't work in a fresh install, it's perfectly normal Linux, exactly the same as if it was on any other computer.

I have one with the BIOS flashed to John Lewis's RW_LEGACY, so that it can still boot to ChromeOS on the tiny internal storage, but it can also boot from other media (hit ctrl-L at the "OS Verification is off" screen, then ESC to get the list of bootable devices. Yes, it's a little annoying but it's not a huge deal.)

Anyway, booting off other media means you can just boot from of any bog-standard Linux installer on a flash drive. You can use that to install Linux to the internal storage as normal, or you can leave the ChromeOS partitions completely untouched and install Linux another flash drive or SD card, which will then be a persistent system. You can even plug it into another computer and boot it there, with all your files and settings intact. (Pro tip: if installing to USB, make sure both the target drive and the port itself are USB 3.0 or all i/o will be painfully slow.)

I usually use an Ubuntu Mate install that's on an SD card, so that there's no USB sticking out. The slowest part is indeed i/o, but I really only notice that when doing updates, which take a few extra minutes. (I've never had an update break anything.) The machine itself is obviously no speed demon but it has no trouble at all fullscreening video from netflix, youtube, or a local file. As for battery life, it's usually plugged into mains power but my impression is that it lasts almost as long in Linux as it is in ChromeOS.

Lots of very helpful guides: http://www.fascinatingcaptain.com/t...n-a-chromebook/

call to action
Jun 10, 2016


I saw Walmart.com has a 3 year accidental damage warranty on the Pixelbook for $95 and no deductible. That seems like an extremely good deal, considering you can't really repair those units and would probably end up getting a refund.

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

Powered Descent posted:

..snip..

I usually use an Ubuntu Mate install that's on an SD card, so that there's no USB sticking out. The slowest part is indeed i/o, but I really only notice that when doing updates, which take a few extra minutes. (I've never had an update break anything.) The machine itself is obviously no speed demon but it has no trouble at all fullscreening video from netflix, youtube, or a local file. As for battery life, it's usually plugged into mains power but my impression is that it lasts almost as long in Linux as it is in ChromeOS.

..snip..
That's good to hear. I'm not really interested in getting the ChromeOS part back. I can't imagine it selling well given that it was <$300 and the specs are, as mentioned before, not exactly great. I was considering waiting until the official support line ends in 2020, but honestly, I'm getting tired of using it when it crashes so frequently.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Yam Slacker

unruly posted:

and lately Chrome has been really crashy (even after a powerwash and update).

unruly posted:

but honestly, I'm getting tired of using it when it crashes so frequently.

That's not typical. If it turns out your chromebook has a hardware problem (glitchy RAM or something), then switching to Linux won't help.

call to action
Jun 10, 2016


The only time I've ever had problems with Chrome OS is when I put some bad RAM into my Chromebox at home. It creates some very weird issues that, to me, didn't initially point to RAM.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007



fanny packrat posted:

...
The issue is that I want to print to a network at my university, and although I haven't asked, I'm pretty sure they won't be thrilled with me running my RPi as a print server on their network. Last year I got a Mint laptop printing, so I'm pretty sure it's possible. I'll bother the IT people soon because I don't have the time to devote to figuring this out right now. In any event, I'm not complaining about not being able to print. This machine rocks rear end regardless.
...

I managed to add a non-GCP-networked printer to a chromebook, it's not mandatory.

Doesn't chromeos use CUPS under the hood? Any printer you get working in linux, you'll be able to get working in chromeos..

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Man, I hope that Valve makes it a priority to get Steamlink's Android app working properly on Chromebook targets. There's so much potential there.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



What market share do chromebook have?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell


Statutory Ape posted:

What market share do chromebook have?

I feel like you shouldve typed that into Google.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Thermopyle posted:

I feel like you shouldve typed that into Google.

I did and the answer was "valve probably doesn't care about chromebooks right now"

But i figured somebody else could answer that for me and also explain why they do care

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

It seems to me that the number of people wanting to play Doom in their Pixelbook is larger than those who want to play it on their Galaxy S9.

I can't really see the point of the Steamlink Android app other than eventually bring desktop gaming to ChromeOS or AndroidTV.

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