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I am having a really hard time deciding on getting Flip C320, Sammy Pro, or Sammy Plus. My use case is "I have $400ish to burn on a mobile device for word processing and research for school." I have a totally competent desktop and want to make sure I can stream stuff off that, but I have no problem using Dropbox or Drive to sync up files. I have zero physical experience with ChromeOS, but I've used .Docs to take notes and stuff and it will do the job. I don't really need android apps, but I'd like the option in the event something comes up. I really like the stuff I've seen for stylus use on the Samsungs but the Pro is a good chunk of change on the used market over the Flip. Not sure if I want to wait for a mid life refresh and the subsequent price drop. I like the default storage boost for the C320 over the Samsung offerings. I've always been an "offline media" guy and favor local storage whenever possible. I recognize and understand that chromebooks are mainly cloud based, but how well does microsd storage integrate into local playback? Tangentally on this note: how easy does cloud printing work for these devices? I have a desktop at work running Windows 7 that's hardlined into a printer and can theoretically connect that, but I'm not sure the methodology of how all that works. This would be to replace an old ipad air 1 with 1gb ram that keeps kicking stuff out of memory and a $30 bluetooth keyboard that isn't the greatest for high speed touch typing in class. I make a lot of flash cards, and it'd be nice to have the option to do that digitally too, so I'm leaning towards the Pro even though it's more up front. My question is what is the long term viability of these devices? If I buy something with 32gb storage over 64gb storage am I going to be on the hook in two years when chromeOS has bloated out and demands heftier system specs like Android has? What's system fragmentation and slowdown like over time? Thanks for your input y'all. 
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Excellent post, very informative. Pretty much the only non Google suite application I think I'd be using is direct TV now and some kind of .cbr file reader. And if dual boot to GalliumOS is as easy as you say, I can just use that for what mild image manipulation I may need.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:25
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Okay, thanks for the input gang. I did some more digging on available chrome applications, available android apps, and the Crouton environment. I find it hilarious that I could install that, steam, and then Civilization. If only I could dig up a copy of Alpha Centari I'd really be meta.  Unfortunately Amazon Warehouse ran out of the $398 units and the cheapest is $422. I also scoured ebay and Best Buy has refurb units for $417, so not really an appreciable difference, and way longer shipping time. Not a big deal though, 30 day returns if this turns out to not be to my liking. And if it is good enough, great! If google is really dedicated to long term support of these devices and continual improvements of the OS, I'll be a happy camper. It'll be nice to have integration between my phone, laptop, and desktop without having to jump through fifteen different hoops.
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Feb 9, 2018 17:10
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C302 came in the mail today. All I gotta say is gang, this screen is bananas good. I'll add more thoughts as I get into the nitty gritty of this device.
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- Handling multiple google account logins is a little whacky. The first account logged in is assigned as "device owner/admin", and any subsequent account you add on the login screen does not have access to the Play Store. I cannot figure out how to change this. Not a big deal though because of point 2: -After a bit I figured out how to sign secondary accounts in Chrome Browser, which means I can be logged in my main administrator account, yet still swap over to my school linked account for Drive and Docs access. Not immediately evident that this is an option, but for grandma who isn't juggling 5+ accounts it won't be a problem. -This thing is stupid quick at application switching, screen rotation, and booting up. I really liked that it immediately grabbed several OS updates not ten minutes after I booted up and logged in, and installed them in almost no time flat. - Bluetooth doesn't want to pipe sound to my speaker for some reason. It'll connect no problem, it just doesn't want to output. I don't know why this is and I'm going to get ahold of some other bluetooth enabled devices to see if this is why this device was sent back to Warehouse. Glad to see that Google is consistent in being bad at wireless. -Swapping between laptop and tablet mode is quite good. Windows could take some lessons in UI design here. Interestingly though, location services are only easily accessed inside the sandboxed instance of Play Store/Android Settings. I found that rather odd since Direct TV wouldn't work properly without location access and wouldn't activate unless I cycled that several times* -Keyboard is quite good. Screen and build quality are also very good. I don't really have a basis for comparison on other high end IPS displays, but hey looks darn good to me. -Hangouts Video Chat inside Chrome Browser does not work (when clicking on an existing chat video icon with no one in it), but it works if you install the Hangouts application from the play store and call out. Bizarre compartmentalization there. - After installing LightroomCC and saving an image to local storage for editing, the OS refuses to let me delete either the folder Lightroom created, or the image I saved off Space-x's Flickr account to edit. The right click menu option for delete is greyed out, and the keyboard shortcut won't work either. What the ever loving hell. Edit:I can't find location settings anymore, all I can access is when a website asks for location in Chrome Browser. Right clicking on a play store application in the utility launcher lets you bring up permissions for that specific app. *I had access to a fully sandboxed Android setting screen, it even showed that it was Android 7.1. I got there via Play Store>Hamburger Menu> Settings. Now when I go Play Store>Hamburger Menu>Settings, I only get generalized licensing information. I want that full menu back. How do I find that? Edit: When sent a direct hangout url from another client, it will open up in browser no problem. I do not know why when browsing hangouts.google.com when the dialogue window pops up, it won't launch a video chat from a prior hangout when tapping the little film camera icon. Edit: After rebooting the machine, I could delete the original image I saved in the Files utility, however the folder Lightroom created refuses to be deleted. Is there a way to force delete items such as this? MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Feb 12, 2018 02:10
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I tried the settings menu and searching for location, all it does is bring up denying websites access to location. Far from location control I found in the Android sandbox which is was exactly like the settings menu in Nougat, right down to a full app list and an interface just like I have on my phone. It's really annoying not having that kind of control over a Chromebook when implementation could be done quite easily. I did some digging and couldn't find anyone else being able to replicate what I managed to do totally by accident. It may have been patched out at some point during updates.  Switching accounts in Chrome Browser is exactly like it appears on a Desktop version of Chrome. The only thing I noticed is the built in Drive application defaults to the logged in owner account and has no account switcher, but the web-based Drive interface allows account switching. A little ungainly to work around, but not the end of the world.
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Feb 13, 2018 02:38
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 I FOUND A WORKAROUND TO ACCESS THE ANDROID STYLE SETTINGS MENU WITH MORE SYSTEM OPTIONS/INFORMATIONGo to Play Store> Installed Apps> Contacts. Open up Contacts then tap the hamburger menu. Scroll down to tap "Settings." In the new window, tap "Accounts". This opens up the Android 7.1 sandbox. Just tap the hamburger menu again to open up the Android style "settings home" menu overlay. Those observant of you will note there's now a AndroidOS style Settings Gear icon on the launch bar. This gear icon can be pinned for future use. You now have access to the full range of system setting just like an Android phone, but displaying everything on your Chromebook including the ability to 100% disable location data, individual application permissions, and getting access to the developer menu. I hope this is helpful to those of you who can't resist the urge to poke around in the guts of everything you own. MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 02:00
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I am the walking epitome of a facepalm right now.
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I actually started encountering some heavy pops & clicks out of the left hand speaker earlier this evening. Pretty sure that's why this was a warehouse return on Amazon. Everything else other than Bluetooth has been stellar. I would still recommend this device to anyone interested in Chromebooks, but I may begin the RMA process within the next few days Edit: Processing RMA. Will replace with another one just like it Lets hope this Warehouse return isn't because of the exact same issue. If this one has a wonky speaker I'll send it back and give a Samsung Pro a spin. MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Feb 16, 2018 |
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Feb 14, 2018 05:53
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That'd be amazing if the permission list wasn't a freaking treasure trove of personal data mining. Yikes.
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Mar 20, 2018 03:03
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Just wanted y'all to know that Shadowrun: Returns and the Dragonfall DLC work great on the C302 and don't get kicked out of memory even when running a high tab load in Chrome. Definitely worth $5 for both games.
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Apr 28, 2018 17:37
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Although I mentioned the smoothness of Shadowrun Returns in my previous post, ever since the last system update I've been having a ton of problems with hung screens and full system non-responsiveness. I'll shut the lid and open things back up and it'll be totally frozen. Or it'll go to sleep, I hit the unlock and punch in my pin then it'll go unresponsive to touch or keyboard input. Sometimes when I have 4 or 5 tabs open in the browser and nothing else, when I close the screen it'll crash completely and reboot itself having lost everything I had open. I'm on the stable channel and honestly I'm getting really irritated by how jankey things have gotten recently. Anyone else run into system instability from the last couple updates?
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Apr 30, 2018 04:33
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You know what now that you mention it, most of the time full lockup happens is when I'm running an Android app. I'll keep an eyeball on things and see if there's any correlation.
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Apr 30, 2018 16:56
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Google Keep has native writing via stylus implemented, though that's Android sandbox.
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How do I remove the Office for Chromebook application from Chrome Webstore. It has been updated to requiring Chrome 67, and disabled automatically but it's still enabled when I open a .docx or .pdf file from my Blackboard account. When I go to File>save as google doc it keeps throwing a "you need to sign into your google account" error and it's driving me insane. I'd really prefer to not powerwash the drat thing right now as I'm balls deep in the school year and have a ton of stuff saved on the device that I don't want to have to reorganize.
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It's not listed anywhere under Tools----> Extensions. It only shows up in the Chrome Web Store under the "Library" tab, saying that it has been disabled. Unfortunately it has very clearly not been disabled and there's no option to remove it. There is no icon to the right of the URL bar either.
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MC Hawking posted:It's not listed anywhere under Tools----> Extensions. It only shows up in the Chrome Web Store under the "Library" tab, saying that it has been disabled. Unfortunately it has very clearly not been disabled and there's no option to remove it. There is no icon to the right of the URL bar either. Chrome updated and they added the notation that this extension is being now included by default in ChromeOS so there's no real way to disable it, even if you install it standalone from the Chrome Web Store. It's still broken.
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I let my C302 drain its battery completely and now it won't accept a charge from the OEM charger. It sits at 1% and then shuts down after getting through the boot screen. Plugged in while turned off doesn't do anything and it won't accept a charge over 1%. Any charger I plug in says "Low power charger connected" and then it turns itself off. What do I do?
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I left it plugged in overnight on the OEM giganto wall plug and it only had 1% in the morning. This morning I got it booted to the log in screen, normally where it would shut down if I attempted to login. I swapped over to a different USB-C plug which recognized as a viable charger. I left it plugged in with the screen on till it charged to around 12% then switched back over to the OEM plug. It's charging fine now. Glad to know the ASUS CSR I spoke with last night told me the wrong instructions for a hardware reset.
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Aug 4, 2018 13:43
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I just did some quick math and the money I've saved cutting my own hair over the last 2 years paid for my c302. Printers are not haircuts you galoot. It's not hard to give yourself a good fade, but it is hard to troubleshoot consumer grade printer drivers and networking.
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Whatever loving dumb poo poo update they shoved down the stable pipe for c302 yesterday disabled my wired headphone jack completely. Between that and the trackpad and/or keyboard randomly not functioning when I open the screen up, I'm getting pretty annoyed. Now that school is done for the moment, I might just do a full power wash and try to remember how to set up an application in it's own dedicated window.
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May 23, 2019 03:07
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The wired headphone thing fixed itself after being power cycled a half dozen times. What the gently caress.
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My only and largest consistent problems with the much lauded predecessor (cb302) is frequently when coming out of sleep mode the keyboard and/or trackpad will be unresponsive until I close the lid again or reboot it. If the 434 doesn't have that problem and is a modest hardware upgrade otherwise I'd heartily recommend the brand family for overall value and broad spectrum usefulness. I write a lot and it's pretty fantastic for research projects.
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Jesus I spent like $450 on my c302. That's a hell of a depreciation curve and if I hadn't just spent a mint on a lot of other dumb poo poo I would be all over that even if I don't need it at all since the c302 is still chugging along like a champ. Wait good god that thing retailed for $1649¿!?! MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Oct 19, 2019 |
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Oct 19, 2019 05:59
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Hold down the refresh key and mash the power button. That resets the charging controller if you've run things down to low.
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My c302 has yet again run afoul of the "I don't want to charge" bug and it is driving me up the wall. Every charger registers as a low power charger and wants me to put it to sleep. But when I shut it down, it refuses to charge at all. I'm at 1% battery and don't have enough for a power wash. The hell am I supposed to do now?
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Confirming that the usual fix of "leave it on the charger overnight" does not work. The only thing it's doing is blinking the charging light when it's plugged in and the lid is open. Refuses to boot. I'll contact Asus but I doubt that they'll do anything. Battery related warranty is 12mo. It's not the battery that died though it's some fuckery with the controller module going haywire if you let overall charge to low. Registering any charger I use as a low power charger irrespective of output then refusing to take a charge indicates to me that it's hosed, Jim. Edit: yeah, ASUS wants to charge $60 just to have a lab tech look at it. Unfortunately I need a working laptop for school pronto so dicking around with swapping in a new battery with the hope that it has enough charge for me to wipe the device is kinda out of the question. It's so dead that the only sign of life is the amber "charge me" light flashes when you hit the boot button. I have one more USB c charger I can try at work but I doubt it'll do anything. If the two other chargers I've tried do nothing, there's not much hope. Edit 2: fortunately it looks like Amazon warehouse has the updated c424 for a significant discount right now. Unless there's anything better in the $500 range on market y'all can suggest? Edit 3: weird, apparently you can get these to boot off of AC power if you remove the battery. Edit 4: you can absolutely boot the device off AC power by unplugging the battery to Mobo connector which allows for power washing and also indicates that there's something wrong with the battery presuming that the controller is part of that assembly. MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Oct 26, 2019 |
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HAHAHAHA IT loving WORKED. heck yeah. It's quick charging fine now. 
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