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Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Ah, I see. Your desire to succeed at the game is running into conflicts with the perfectly normal human desire to SET A CLOWN ON FIRE.

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ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
I TRIED SO HARD TO MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPP :(

I CAN DROWN IT IN THE FIRES OF THE SAMURAI CASTLE

Part 41: "Hedy Hattie Had a Hedwig" | 244 | Crumbleden, Ruined Kingdom / Bowser's Castle, Bowser's Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD1ko_Ui3Ks

Part 42: "The Traditional Boxing Day Marriage Ceremony" | 246 | Bowser's Castle, Bowser's Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVudykLrwxQ

ricdesi fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 2, 2018

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Looks like today we're finally getting our asses in gear in Bowser's Castle. More Power Moons in today's episode than in the last two combined (in Bowser's neck of the woods, anyway), AND we get to kick two Broodals' asses in a row! It's a pretty sweet deal, if you ask me.

Part 43: "Jizz All in a Row" | 254 | Bowser's Castle, Bowser's Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmTp3h_SFOs

ricdesi fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 2, 2018

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
The completely inexplicable zen garden and souvenir shop was a pretty amazing interlude.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Every good world leader knows you need to keep tourism alive or the economy stagnates! Bowser's a savvy motherfucker, how else do you think he can afford this ludicrous number of golden Bowser statues?

Part 44: "Downtown Busty Brown" | 262 | Bowser's Castle, Bowser's Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INeHQakt6Xg

ricdesi fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 2, 2018

racerabbit
Sep 8, 2011

"HI, I WANT TO HUG PINS NUTS."
:frolf:
Wubba Wubba Wubba Good Night, and God Bless!

It was Downtown Julie Brown.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...
Part 45: The Broodals are named in the tourist brochure (=map) of the Kingdom you're in right now.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I like how Mario's just gotten dunked on, like, four times so far, and this is the least impressive dunk. Then again he was scrambling to get on the ship in the first place, and Big Bowser is leaning towards a more "never plays an ace when a two will do" mindset.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
I gotta say, this was a pretty wild and... very unexpected ending for the game. Not to mention the "Escape" sequence, theme, and lyrics are uh... a different take than I think any of us were expecting. But this was a hell of a drat ride, WHAT A GAME.

Part 45: "On My Way to Steal Yo Gurl" | 267 | Honeylune Ridge, Moon Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlwNSqtKDi4

Part 46: "Happily Ever After" | 267 | Honeylune Ridge, Moon Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwnT8zEvimM

ricdesi fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jan 2, 2018

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU3rDNvEGec the end song in all its glory. Reminds me of bad Sonic music, but I like the Mario 64 Bowser riff in the middle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbVB-H88jSU

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
I LOVE the SM64 Bowser reference, but... man, the song in general feels WAY out of character for the rest of the game, I can't put my finger on it. What a hell of an ending all around though, drat.

So naturally, we're gonna look around and see what's going on in the postgame...

Part 47: "Oh My Stars" | 274 | Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu_7jXgGbFs

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Was the Mario 64 castle music playing in that room with the boss painting?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

ricdesi posted:

I LOVE the SM64 Bowser reference, but... man, the song in general feels WAY out of character for the rest of the game, I can't put my finger on it. What a hell of an ending all around though, drat.

Well, of course. It's not Mario's soundtrack. He's basically taking a whirlwind tour through Bowser's mind with the Capture, the same way he's been doing to everybody.

So. You're (basically) Bowser. Princess Peach is sitting on your shoulder and she wants you to break everything. What do you do? Throw on your favorite EDM jam and run around inside your mind screaming excitedly.

And yeah, break everything, of course.

I love that this is where they dump you in the postgame. For two hundred moons, you have been asking, who is Mario 64? And now you have your answer. I am Mario 64. I am the game who loves its play.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Carbon dioxide posted:

Was the Mario 64 castle music playing in that room with the boss painting?

It was! This kingdom is loving loaded with SM64 sounds and music.

Glazius posted:

Well, of course. It's not Mario's soundtrack. He's basically taking a whirlwind tour through Bowser's mind with the Capture, the same way he's been doing to everybody.

So. You're (basically) Bowser. Princess Peach is sitting on your shoulder and she wants you to break everything. What do you do? Throw on your favorite EDM jam and run around inside your mind screaming excitedly.

...oh poo poo, I didn't even consider that this is the soundtrack in Bowser's head. drat, nice.

And now let's crack open the real backbone of the postgame...

Part 48: "Here We Go!" | 298 | Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQOWZbpqE6A

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I wonder about a couple of things with that sun inlay. There is light pouring into that room, it's just from the stained glass Peach.

Or you could try looking up at the center of the dome a couple more times. ...or maybe after you clear some more refights? I know levels don't tend to mutate until you get a moon in a cutscene.

It looks like there's another trick from Mario 64 that you can pull off here as well, unless there's some way Goombas can long-jump that I don't know about.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I'm curious whether you *need* to get across the lake. The other goombrellas have just needed you to get close and sit there for a bit, but you kept running up and then running away.

Then again, that moat sure does have a lot of pillars in it.

Zuzie
Jun 30, 2005

I got this for a Ratatta on GTS.


You can go into first person view by pressing the analog stick.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Yeah, we will return there to look with the first-person view, I'm not sure any of us ever even noticed it was in the game at all, there was never really a need to use it. But there comes a time to get our asses moving to the next kingdom... or whatever the next area is.

Part 49: "Tongue-Punch the Sheep" | 305 | Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLRAV04AYiQ

Part 50: "A Bunch of Dickheads with Feet" | 320 | Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS3K8SIxbFw

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I was wondering when you would remember what rocket flowers were for.

For reference, the racing koopas all have your approximate moveset and will even throw their hats to do things your hat can do.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
He isn't even in the top 10 anymore, but it's a good lesson in mobility :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSR7u-1pLOs

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Hey guys! Sorry for going MIA, moving has been making things a bit crazy, but we're almost through the worst of it. Thankfully, we're still getting Odyssey videos up, I'm just awful at updating the thread and Power Moon count right now, so here we go through Rabbit Ridge on the Dark Side of the Moon! I'll get the rest caught up later on tonight!

Part 51: "Boss Rush Mode" | 324 | Rabbit Ridge, Dark Side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey0LxQDzpnY

Part 52: "Hat Tricks" | 330 | Rabbit Ridge, Dark Side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT7u2EXQIZk

Part 53: "I'm Feeling Vigorous Tonight" | 331 | Rabbit Ridge, Dark Side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3uNrevzw_Q

ricdesi fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jan 16, 2018

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Even if you don't do a 100% run, it's nice that you at least appear to be planning on doing all the major post-finale content?

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
We at least wanna give it a shot :) And that does mean going back to a few old areas...

Part 54: "A Real Area Now" | 339 | Bonneton, Cap Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPDstU4OkU

Part 55: "Mario Run, Sonic Jump" | 343 | Bonneton, Cap Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4YWuoxCG0

Part 56: "Just Being a Fancy Guy" | 352 | Bonneton, Cap Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kq_sygCA9A

Part 57: "You Had Okra Today" | 361 | Bonneton, Cap Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up0JQvA0VSM

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

But do you ever go back to find out if the Roomba can show you where that last moon is? The suspense is killing me. DUN DUN DUN

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So, as what's hopefully not too spoilery of a hint, there are several post-game moons that require you to look at something in particular with the binoculars. All those moons point to the binoculars, rather than what you're supposed to look at, so as not to ruin the entire challenge.

It is nice to see Peach out and about on her own terms, for all that the Toads are still flipping the gently caress out about it.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?

Glazius posted:

So, as what's hopefully not too spoilery of a hint, there are several post-game moons that require you to look at something in particular with the binoculars. All those moons point to the binoculars, rather than what you're supposed to look at, so as not to ruin the entire challenge.

Yeahhh, someone had to basically straight-up tell us how that set of Power Moons works, since prior to now those binoculars were exclusively for looking around the level :|

Glazius posted:

It is nice to see Peach out and about on her own terms, for all that the Toads are still flipping the gently caress out about it.

It's kinda funny, Peach has been - since way back in the mid-90s - a pretty self-sufficient gal, and regularly holds her own in fights, competitions, etc. So watching all of the "villager" style Toads just flip out that she's been "kidnapped" (with a suitcase and a friend) is kind of hilarious.

Good for her, she needs a vacation. And hey, we broke 400 Moons!

Part 58: "I Hope You Achieve Your Dreams" | 375 | Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom / Fossil Falls, Cascade Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EW0kv43VXo

Part 59: "Kill Myself Real Hard" | 377 | Fossil Falls, Cascade Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8UIAv99pA

Part 60: "Zero Stars Here" | 382 | Fossil Falls, Cascade Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alvnOQH9qBU

Part 61: "Your Head's Made of Bones" | 392 | Fossil Falls, Cascade Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av0hey7mf4I

Part 62: "Your Balloon Gets So Huge" | 402 | Fossil Falls, Cascade Kingdom / Bowser's Castle, Bowser's Kingdom / Shiveria, Snow Kingdom / Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvA28J7DkSE

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Apologies for the low-frequency humming going on in the audio :\ John's mic shorted out (last time we detached the XLR cable, a bunch of its guts came out with), we have since fixed it, but until Part 66 it'll be present in the audio. Doing the best we can to iron it out and minimize the hum!

Anyway, ONTO THE NEXT KINGDOM.

Part 63: "Take Control of His Butt" | 408 | Fossil Falls, Cascade Kingdom / Bonneton, Cap Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evLLbbWfYzQ

Part 64: "Collecting My Seed" | 420 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxBuWAOZCJA

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Looks like it's time to get more of Tostarena underway, but... geez, there are an absolute shitload of Power Moons here. Almost halfway though, I think we'll power through okay.

Part 65: "Mr. Questionface" | 430 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LrqUzwU2Xk

Part 66: "Bumpin' with Goldboy" | 436 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxoBHe5cHmA

Part 67: "Creamy Weirdness" | 446 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goo29Q-paAg

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I did not expect Cappy to sound off when you spotted Peach and Tiara through the binoculars. That was a nice touch.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
There's a lot of really nice details the closer you look, honestly. I want so badly to get my own game file going and wander around, but I want to make sure I don't end up running into stuff that hasn't made it into these videos yet, wouldn't wanna waste those sweet, sweet first impressions, yo.

Anyway, Tostarena is neat, but something about it always just feels kinda "eh" to me. Not as bad as Steam Gardens, which is both "eh" AND hard to navigate, but let's see if we can't get the last Power Moons out of here before we move on.

Part 68: "Among Tail Enthusiasts" | 452 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlerbCzbO24

Part 69: "Whadjddday?" | 458 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNepbrkvyqQ

Part 70: "Yawning Madrigal" | 461 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM5D3oV6jv4

Part 71: "GWL Rick" | 465 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89mPs1HdaNA

Part 72: "We Need Another Nut" | 467 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Vw8I-DZkM

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
I can't help thinking that the post game should have been you playing as Peach going on adventures with Tiara ghost in the Odyssey. Mario's story, such as it was, is done.
At least in Mario RPG after you rescue Peach she becomes a party member.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

ultrabindu posted:

I can't help thinking that the post game should have been you playing as Peach going on adventures with Tiara ghost in the Odyssey. Mario's story, such as it was, is done.
At least in Mario RPG after you rescue Peach she becomes a party member.

I'd like to see what kind of moves they give Peach in one of these more acrobatic Mario games, as opposed to the SMB2 flavor she got in the more powerup-focused 3D World.

Also, drat. Hint Toad has the potential of being a pretty serious end-game coin sink. Unless you've got some amiibo.

Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

-G-
Get Equipped with
Ground Game
I forget if it was episode 64 or 66, but that was some great video editing.

Edit: I looked it up. Episode 64.

Crumps Brother fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 15, 2018

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

Glazius posted:

I'd like to see what kind of moves they give Peach in one of these more acrobatic Mario games, as opposed to the SMB2 flavor she got in the more powerup-focused 3D World.

That would've been wonderful, I understand why the developers didn't, it's a big game already and they have delivery deadlines to meet. But narratively we're done with Mario and Peach already has her Carmen Sandiego thing going on.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Phew, this is an interesting can of worms you've opened.

Risk Legacy and Pandemic Legacy are the two most notable legacy games out there. Risk is actually playable forever - after a certain point you've unlocked everything and modded the map as far as it will go, but it still functions as your own game of Risk, and most of the variance you can introduce gets counterbalanced by a setup drafting system. Pandemic is designed to be strictly progressive over a series of 12 "months", and there's a season 2 out there now as well.

The phrase you were looking for is "living card game" - Netrunner's the most notable one of those but there are others, like Lord of the Rings and Arkham Horror. (There's also a board game called Arkham Horror. Quite different, more expensive, kind of fiddly.) A big box of cards you're building decks from with certain restrictions, though Netrunner pulls this kind of BS move where you have to buy three boxes if you want to use the regulation three copies of the one-per-box card. That may have changed later on, though.

A "deck-building game" is another thing entirely, your reference example being Dominion, where you start with a deck of basic cards and buy better cards to put into your deck, and either it's a market row where you pick and mix as you can from a giant master deck or, as in Dominion, there are fixed supplies of all the cards and the strategy involves seeing good interactions in the cards that are out there. Dominion balances things out by making points generally dead cards in your deck; other games will provide other things to shoot for than purchasing power, like Star Realms, where you're trying to damage race your opponent, or Clank!, where you're trying to move around a dungeon, fend off monsters, and not make noise.

Or if you want to get super meta there's Millennium Blades, the CCG simulator board game where you and your friends are playing some kid and his friends playing the collectible card game Millennium Blades. You buy booster packs for the single worthwhile card that's actually inside them - the filler cards in your deck are represented by a "deck box" which tends to give you a more static bonus - and try to both build the best six-card super combo you can and the most complete and impressive collection of a single element or creature type. Every game shuffles together the main deck with twelve booster packs in three different price tiers, so you can rotate different sets in and out from game to game.

(Also keep in mind that the moneybag guy spits coins like crazy when you shake the joycons. This will be important.)

Glazius fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Feb 15, 2018

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

I found some official Nintendo account that seems to post Mario Odyssey behind the scenes stuff.

https://twitter.com/mario_odysseyJP/status/963892617866969088

Google translate of the tweet: Following the Odyssey ... This is also a 3D model of "Mario's expression" that can not be seen in the game. Various expressions Mario shows in the trip are made with such feeling!

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
Do they ever explain why Bowser inexplicably wanted a Japanese-style castle instead of his usual lava death world. Or the boss that escaped from Skyrim?

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Phew, now that my fever's behind me, let's get things on track. Looks like the thread has been busy!

ultrabindu posted:

I can't help thinking that the post game should have been you playing as Peach going on adventures with Tiara ghost in the Odyssey. Mario's story, such as it was, is done.
At least in Mario RPG after you rescue Peach she becomes a party member.

This would have been loving awesome. Tweak the "Mario" moves so they make slightly more sense, maybe give her her hover for some Power Moons that would have been fully impossible without Peach, drat. Good idea!

Glazius posted:

Hint Toad has the potential of being a pretty serious end-game coin sink. Unless you've got some amiibo.

Yeah, we're not burning any more Coins on that, we have the amiibo, we'll do it that way.

Crumps Brother posted:

I forget if it was episode 64 or 66, but that was some great video editing.

Edit: I looked it up. Episode 64.

Thank you! I was super on the fence about adding that in, but it was such a specific thing that I figured it would be fun to gently caress around with it and see what I could do with the editing. Glad you got a kick out of it!

Glazius posted:

Phew, this is an interesting can of worms you've opened.

Risk Legacy and Pandemic Legacy are the two most notable legacy games out there. Risk is actually playable forever - after a certain point you've unlocked everything and modded the map as far as it will go, but it still functions as your own game of Risk, and most of the variance you can introduce gets counterbalanced by a setup drafting system. Pandemic is designed to be strictly progressive over a series of 12 "months", and there's a season 2 out there now as well.

It's such a neat concept, taking an existing board game and blowing it up to the nth degree. I kinda want to see about trying one of those two for a board game segment on the channel sometime, could be rad.

Carbon dioxide posted:

I found some official Nintendo account that seems to post Mario Odyssey behind the scenes stuff.

https://twitter.com/mario_odysseyJP/status/963892617866969088

Google translate of the tweet: Following the Odyssey ... This is also a 3D model of "Mario's expression" that can not be seen in the game. Various expressions Mario shows in the trip are made with such feeling!

Dude, this is awesome! Man, Mario looks so sharp these days, it's kind of amazing to think of how far he's come in the last 20 years since the jump to 3D...

Geostomp posted:

Do they ever explain why Bowser inexplicably wanted a Japanese-style castle instead of his usual lava death world. Or the boss that escaped from Skyrim?

We haven't encountered a reason yet ourselves, though I imagine he just likes to mix it up once in a while, this time he opted for a more Eastern style than a Western one.

Part 73: "The Fresh Forest Smell of Water" | 470 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCzDa4KjQo

Part 74: "Skater Die" | 474 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oew5qcdF2w

Part 75: "People Do Everything" | 481 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b00_oz65L8U

Part 76: "Another Cowboy in the Steam Gardens" | 490 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUCdS5SVCYc

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I like how the aquatic types will just be hangin' out in casual water now and again. That's fun to see.

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ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
Me too, everything feels a lot more cohesive and stuff with all these characters showing up in a natural-seeming way in other kingdoms. Makes the world feel a little more whole instead of like a collection of unrelated places.

I believe we have now reached the halfway point not only in total Power Moons in the game, but also in collecting the findable Power Moons since we beat Bowser! Looks like we'll be playing until the start of April, which I am 1000% okay with.

Part 77: "Who Said It Wouldn't Be Exciting?" | 497 | Tostarena, Sand Kingdom / Peach's Castle, Mushroom Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1wTTMZAm6E

Part 78: "The Hardest Way" | 502 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuMv-KE4eAI

Part 79: "Turn Your Dicks to Erect" | 511 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIbmIhwOpU8

Part 80: "My Moment of Peace" | 519 | Steam Gardens, Wooded Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGoFb1U1pck

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