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Guavanaut posted:Michael Phallus, Jeremy oval office, ftfy rear end in a top hat 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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oval office is not a gendered insult in the UK, and the creeping Americanisation attempting to make it so should be rejected.
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Nov 1, 2017 15:59
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More denials coming out from the spreadsheet. Rory Stewart (who apparently asked researcher Sophie Bolsover to do odd things) issued a denial twenty minutes after Sophie Bolsover denied anything happening. Who knows what happened in that case, but the pressure being put on victims to publicly deny anything happened must be intense.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:01
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Still B.A.E posted:oval office is not a gendered insult in the UK, and the creeping Americanisation attempting to make it so should be rejected. 
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Nov 1, 2017 16:01
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Still B.A.E posted:oval office is not a gendered insult in the UK, and the creeping Americanisation attempting to make it so should be rejected. this
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Nov 1, 2017 16:11
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Still B.A.E posted:oval office is not a gendered insult in the UK, and the creeping Americanisation attempting to make it so should be rejected. You’re going to have to do a bit of legwork to find an etymology that doesn’t mean ‘ladyparts’, though, no matter what side of the Atlantic is using it. I mean, Christ, it meant ‘vagina’ as far back as Shakespeare. It’s kind of hard to see how an insult comparing someone to a woman’s bits isn’t, like, the definition of a gendered insult.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:15
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Don't be a knob.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:20
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quote:Hamlet: Lady, shall I lie in your lap? Billy Shaksper was one dirty-minded motherfucker - he'd probably be directing porn if he were alive now
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Nov 1, 2017 16:23
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Bit of a dick move, to make that argument, tbh. Takes quite some balls. It would make the wrong poster look a bit of a cock.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:24
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Darth Walrus posted:You’re going to have to do a bit of legwork to find an etymology that doesn’t mean ‘ladyparts’, though, no matter what side of the Atlantic is using it. I mean, Christ, it meant ‘vagina’ as far back as Shakespeare. I think it's more a question of who it's aimed at. Americans seem to exclusively use it on women, whereas its application is more gender-neutral in the UK (and legally, not even offensive in Australia). I'm still uncomfortable with it being used on anyone but men, though, because the user might be an American using it like Americans do.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:26
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Maybe we should compromise and accept that whilst Tories are cunts they are also pricks and bellends
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Nov 1, 2017 16:26
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feedmegin posted:Bit of a dick move, to make that argument, tbh. Takes quite some balls. It would make the wrong poster look a bit of a cock. Are we really saying those aren’t gendered? Because there is generally an element of deliberate, joking irony when they’re applied to a woman. You know, like ‘Thatcher had bigger balls than most of the men in her cabinet’.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:28
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I think we can all agree that they're arseholes.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:28
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Tsaedje posted:Maybe we should compromise and accept that whilst Tories are cunts they are also pricks and bellends My god, the Wall Street people were right. We really are living in a futarchy.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:29
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jabby posted:More denials coming out from the spreadsheet. I would imagine there are a lot of negotiations and NDAs being drawn up. Probably on legal aid.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:31
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Tesla was right posted:I think it's more a question of who it's aimed at. Americans seem to exclusively use it on women, whereas its application is more gender-neutral in the UK (and legally, not even offensive in Australia). This. It's not a derogatory term for a woman here, despite the word's actual meaning, and shouldn't be seen as a misogynistic gendered insult as it is in the US.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:31
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Darth Walrus posted:You’re going to have to do a bit of legwork to find an etymology that doesn’t mean ‘ladyparts’, though, no matter what side of the Atlantic is using it. I mean, Christ, it meant ‘vagina’ as far back as Shakespeare. Likewise, calling Gove a oval office doesn't mean you're calling him a vagina. Calling him a vagina might carry some degree of misogyny. Maybe we should just switch from anatomy based swears entirely and go with implications of fornicating with livestock; chickenfucker, pigfucker, horsefucker, like some other languages do. There's a fair chance it'd be true too.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:32
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Anyone who says I can't call the Tory cunts in Parliament cunts is themselves a right oval office and should fuckoff with all haste. oval office.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:48
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Still B.A.E posted:oval office is not a gendered insult in the UK, and the creeping Americanisation attempting to make it so should be rejected. Tbh the way Americans use it has put me off using oval office before. Then I remembered that cunts no the problem, it's Americans spoiling it.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:49
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Gonzo McFee posted:Tbh the way Americans use it has put me off using oval office before. Then I remembered that cunts no the problem, it's Americans spoiling it. The right cunts.
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Nov 1, 2017 16:57
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Like a lot of British people I used to use the word oval office mostly to refer to my friends, especially fat friends, since "fat oval office" is some kind of classic pairing. But I also like cleaning up my use of language whenever something seems like it might be problematic and imo deciding that the word "oval office" has no misogynistic connotations just because you don't personally think that it does is precisely the same argument made by people who say "that's so gay" and claim it isn't homophobic because to them gay just means bad, or "let's go for a chinky" isn't racist because to them it's just what you call Chinese food. I don't personally think these are good arguments for preserving speaking habits that might be unpleasant, which is why I stopped using the word oval office, and words like it. I do not feel their loss.
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Nov 1, 2017 17:00
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lol I probably should have checked if it was still there
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Nov 1, 2017 17:04
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I've just about managed to stop using gay as a term for anything a bit crap (blame my secondary school), no one is taking my oval office away from me.
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Nov 1, 2017 17:15
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Finding out that calling someone a pussy wasn't a gendered insult blew my mind.
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Nov 1, 2017 17:25
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Prick, oval office, arse, cock, poo poo, spunk and balls are all excellent swearwords imo, and you can pry them from my cold, dead mouth if you're going to try and take them away from me.
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Nov 1, 2017 17:30
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Here's something interesting - Labour are using opposition day to push for publication of the brexit impact reports, and they're claiming that a successful vote will be binding due to the use of a "Motion for Unopposed Returns": https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/925609626778980353 https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/925610284852613120
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Nov 1, 2017 17:32
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TomViolence posted:Prick, oval office, arse, cock, poo poo, spunk and balls are all excellent swearwords imo, and you can pry them from my cold, dead mouth if you're going to try and take them away from me.
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Nov 1, 2017 17:33
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I don't think it's unreasonable or contradictory to think pussy is gendered slur in the UK but oval office isn't
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Nov 1, 2017 17:34
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People using oval office to describe the vagina are far worse than people using oval office to describe actual cunts. It's a vile word. And the last time I checked vaginas were in fact not vile. Unlike Tories, for example, or fash. I'm aware of the roots of the word but language evolves and someone calling a vagina a oval office just sounds like a misogynist. I'm trying to cut down on my use of oval office because I do use it a bit much, but I can't stop using it until you find another word that just sounds so harsh. All about the sound of the word, it's vicious, you spit it. gently caress or poo poo or anything else really, they can all be softened a bit, but oval office always sounds a bit horrible.
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Nov 1, 2017 17:34
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Seaside Loafer posted:I've just about managed to stop using gay as a term for anything a bit crap (blame my secondary school), no one is taking my oval office away from me. Like it started off as 'joyful and lively', spent a short time as 'sexually promiscuous', and then was claimed as a banner by Gay Lib almost as soon as it began to take on the modern sense of sexuality, so 'gay' as 'bad' came about as a direct rebuke against gay identity, even if most of the kids saying it didn't consciously process that. If Women's Lib had spent decades saying "call us cunts* instead of womosexuals" and men went "haha no we're going to call Jamie Oliver a oval office** instead" then that'd be pretty bad, but none of that happened. * Don't do this. ** Always do this.
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forkboy84 posted:I'm trying to cut down on my use of oval office because I do use it a bit much, but I can't stop using it until you find another word that just sounds so harsh. All about the sound of the word, it's vicious, you spit it. gently caress or poo poo or anything else really, they can all be softened a bit, but oval office always sounds a bit horrible. I've got an American friend who reckons 'bollocks' doesn't sound coarse at all, it's more cute and funny. But apparently 'balls' sounds like a proper swear?? Meanwhile on Countdown everyone's had enough of Nick Hewer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GAbStTKFIw
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Nov 1, 2017 18:09
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https://twitter.com/ProfChalmers/status/925767095840903168 The government have said they will not vote against the motion.
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Nov 1, 2017 18:44
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All this discussions about parliamentary procedure are giving me an enormous law hard on.
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Nov 1, 2017 19:05
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A Hansard on.
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Deputy speaker has confirmed that the type of motion Labour has brought today is normally considered binding.
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Nov 1, 2017 19:14
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Watch as it turns out that it definitely isn't because Venezuela
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Nov 1, 2017 19:15
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jabby posted:Deputy speaker has confirmed that the type of motion Labour has brought today is normally considered binding. Normally suggests there’s times it isn’t and this is going to be one of those times
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Nov 1, 2017 19:25
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Did the Tories ever actually address losing the Universal Credit vote? If not I can see Bercow taking a stand against them doing a similar thing this time.
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Nov 1, 2017 19:26
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I mean what can Bercow do besides complain about it? They don’t give a poo poo
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Fans posted:I mean what can Bercow do besides complain about it? They don’t give a poo poo Once the government is willing to ignore procedure and precedent, absolutely nothing. Older Tories might have performed lip service to the traditions of Parliament, but this lot, given the choice between ignoring him and not being the government, will probably just slip the Mail his home address
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