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lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Dead Reckoning posted:

Why... why would you even have a list like that? Why would you write that down? :psyduck:

The whole point of having bag men is so that they can remember and you can deny all knowledge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBdGOrcUEg8

WHY ARE WE GETTING SO MUCH MILEAGE OUT OF THIS VIDEO 13 YEARS LATER?

I read an article concerning the Harvey Weinstein thing and it mentioned that. Apparently the female MPs started it for the party to get some sort of confirmation going or to show that there was a problem or something. I didn't follow up because I don't take women seriously.

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lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Mr. Nice! posted:

So the navy is releasing the report tomorrow that details what happened in the Fitz and JSM collisions. Fitz watch team was collectively dicking around while they drove inadvertently into a traffic separation scheme. They were all on the port bridgewing loving off, had a near miss on the starboard side, and then had a collision over there. The captain was hit in his cabin and had to be saved from from there hanging off the side of the ship.

The JSM is a different bag altogether. Captain didn't plan to have detail set for a strait transit until an hour after they had already been in the strait. Guy at the helm is a rookie and can't keep ship on course. Captain has him send control of throttle down to the Central Control Station to make it easier for him to control steering. Guy doesn't know how to do it and accidentally sends steering control to the unoccupied aft steering (since the sea and anchor detail isn't set yet) backup console. Backup console has the rudder set amidships, so the rudder goes there. This causes them to drift port hard. Captain orders the engines to throttle down to 5 knots vs 20 and the guy in the control room only drops the port shaft. This caused their port drift to turn into a hard port turn.

Holy gently caress. Like I know mates are stupid in the merchant world but usually we can isolate their stupidity. The JSM is really bad since you have several steps of not understanding the intent of an order/have the knowledge required to complete the order/do not seek comprehension in any way.

There's times to gently caress around on the bridge, entering a high traffic situation is not one of them that's just lovely officers trying to get people killed.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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hobbesmaster posted:

The first one because the other error chain is understandable with chronic sleep deprivation and a lack of experience.

I’m sure the USN will find a gay person on each ship to blame though.

The inability to recognize this or have anyone break the chain by asking for clarification is what is so concerning. To me, it speaks to a vast experience gap and the deck/engine interaction is not compatible, leading to a lack of cohesion/understanding.

Edit: Nope, the report up that I was able to find says the 2nd is just as bad as the 1st in terms of competence issues.

lightpole fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Nov 1, 2017

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Usually when arriving in a high traffic situation, you test everything and call out extra men to stand by as lookouts, sit in the engine room and monitor propulsion etc. It sounds like the Captain wanted to wait on this part. On the bridge console there's the stuff that's been listed, generally 3rd Mates out of an Academy shouldn't have a problem with it but may need a bit of practice, with a captain watching over their shoulder in high traffic situations. ABs usually steer on merchant ships. I know on one Suez transit we had one AB that could steer so he got it for the entire time.

There's also the EOT, should be the two sticks on the far side of that console, that should give the bridge control over the engines.

I'm not really sure how the Navy does things or what they do them that way though.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Bolow posted:

Wouldn't the actual formation of the detail fall to some Chief with the Captain just signing off on it? I mean regardless everything was hosed every step of the way

Merchant ship goes off the captain, they are responsible overall. They just decide the timing usually, could say we don't need this part of it let them sleep. Everything else should be set already by checklist, just timing and location dependent.

What was striking to me was lack of equipment knowledge by the senior bridge officers. Usually you have someone who knows those technical details up there at least and listen to them.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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That's generally how it's done although if there is limited capability they have no problem adjusting on the fly and moving people to where they need to be.

It doesn't sound like the helmsman did anything wrong except he should have questioned the order, asked for clarification or further knowledge as necessary.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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No. They should have had the plan in place and ready to go. Some companies have gone to some form of this, such as tanker companies dropping anchor for rest requirements. In this situation the reason for being late would have been poor planning and no captain is going to admit to that.

Edit: Some captains have the confidence/security to push back but it's unusual. Most toe the company line.

lightpole fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Nov 1, 2017

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/jeff-sessions-congress-russia-trump-campaign/index.html

lightpole
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I changed my mind on Maduro, this is amazing, probably better than Trump's shenanigans

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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So that tax plan takes away the exemption that PhD students get for the reduced/free tuition when they are researchers or teachers assistants. Since a typical fee structure would be like 50k/year waived tuition, 15-20k/yr paid labor, they would be taxed at a 65-70k tax bracket while making that 15-20k.

Basically, this breaks down the current PhD track for all but the extremely rich and the grad students are freaking out about it over in the grad student thread.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Are you guys serious? He keeps tweeting from the air prior to arriving.

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Jun 4, 2004
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:

A little slanted? Probably.

Not bad.


Casimir Radon posted:

Stuff happening in Lebanon too. Maybe I won't be vacationing there after my deployment.

Go to Jordan instead.

lightpole
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shame on an IGA posted:

Prince Waleed bin-Arrested owns something like 7% of each News Corp and Citigroup

E: quote aint edit

Majority of twitter too right? Or just the largest single owner?

lightpole
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Anta posted:

Hizbollah has been telling Israel for a while now that the next war will be fought on Israeli soil, and I sure as hell believe them.

They might not win on Israeli soil but I don't think that's the aim either. It's to bring the consequences of war to Israel itself. I also think Israel knows this and wants no loving piece of that.

They know they can't win. Their only objective would be to make sure neither does Israel and they almost definitely can make that happen. Pretty sure it would fall off a cliff real fast and neither one is that dumb. Hopefully.

lightpole
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It's either change now or play Marie Antoinette. They are spending too much fighting in Yemen and at home supporting entitlements to keep the population complacent. Oil is not going to return to triple digits either. I think he also realizes that Wahhabism is not ideal and allowing a different center of power to remain unchallenged in the clerics is extremely dangerous.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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If only McCarthy were still alive...

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Slavic Crime Yacht posted:

I sure hope Trump doesn't visit nz
Although apparently he called our equine minister to congratulate her on winning and told her he had followed the race with interest - yeah right. Half our own media can't understand how the party with the largest vote share isn't in power, he sure as gently caress won't

What are you talking about he should understand perfectly.

lightpole
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Casimir Radon posted:

Yeah, not going to vacation there anytime soon. I'm thinking the Caucasus instead Not Chechnya or Dagestan

I heard Georgia is lovely. Would still recommend Jordan for that Levant feel.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Japan wants to get rid of nuclear for some reason and needs to switch to natural gas most likely. We are a top energy producer now.

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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:

https://twitter.com/slate/status/927703885095063552

Therefor, RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR!!!! is a Godsend.

(Read the article to really understand what I’m saying).

It's 140 characters bro, not 140 characters and read this article and understand it.

lightpole
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

on his asia trip trump is gonna negotiate with China to get the two transformers mcdonalds toys thats hes missing from his collection in exchange for nuclear secrets

Sorry Taiwan

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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My Bingo card is full

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Comments on this are still the best. I didn't realize WaPo was so controversial

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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I thought it was up there with the NYT as one of the more trustworthy news sources. I think the opinion pieces tend to be fairly liberal but the articles themselves seemed alright. Of course, everything I read online feels like an opinion piece now so I am generally confused.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Kanye has done nothing wrong.

lightpole
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boop the snoot posted:

Let’s be totally honest, if the rest of the world started you people’ing everyone from the US, it would be warranted.

Don't you dare judge me that's God's right not yours

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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KildarX posted:

To be fair I've always written it 1.50$ because it's a unit of currency. You don't write oz 100 or qt 200. Why should it be $1.50?

Samesies.

psydude posted:

Literally nobody does this.

Hey gently caress you buddy I do what I want

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Silvio Berlusconi would like you guys to know that your political opinions are wrong and dumb. If he was born with US citizenship he would be in his fourth term by now at least.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Some fat loving nerds in here

Gonna be able to poo poo 20' through a screen door just thinking about those choices christ

lightpole
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

Tax businesses slightly less but fix all the loop holes

This is every bipartisan commission created to advise on tax policy for years. Noone wants to give up their entitlements or even admit that they are entitlements.

lightpole
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FastestGunAlive posted:

Is there a good summary on the uranium stuff? I only really started hearing about it the last few

Most legit news companies can't even find smoke so there's really nothing to report on? Canadian company that mines US uranium sold like 20% to a Russian company. The Russians can't export uranium or anything. This was approved by about 12 different agencies/people.

I think that's the gist of it?

lightpole
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BigDave posted:

Oh come on! Is there anyone left in media or politics who isn't a sexual predator?

Was really hoping to avoid this but I guess if I want to run for office some day I'm jus going to have to get to rapin' and molestin'

lightpole
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They ran a cable tray through a doorway and then just cut a hole in the wall... What the hell who forgets to wire poo poo up

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Sweet I can finally go back to the ol' standby of "Do you like me y/n circle one" and never have to actually talk to a woman

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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I learned about it watching Titanic porn

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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The Franken thing so far is a lovely rehearsal and a bad picture where Franken isn't even touching her. So I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt here and accept that he did something wrong as both those things are legitimate and he should have talked through the rehearsal and not been a creeper for laughs but I can't get all indignant and act like he is scum of the earth over it at this point. Should I be seeing it some other way, compared to the allegations against Weinstein, Moore and others he is pretty much a saint so far and has done what he can to make amends?

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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Yeah I was trying to accept it at face value as those are the exact same talking points used by Trump et al. I am unsure as to when his behavior turned from simply boorish in such a he said she said situation to molestation/harassment that required condemnation.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
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I was just really confused by multiple posts in here saying that this was obviously just the tip of the Franken rape iceberg. Glad I'm not too far out of touch in my white male world.

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boop the snoot posted:

If it was a republican senator everyone here would be talking about how this person obviously rapes the way Patrick Bateman murders. But since it’s coming on the tails of Roy Moore it’s “not as big a deal.”

gently caress outta here. Franken should lose his job.

I'm sure you and your hyperbolic, blanket generalizations are correct. Thank you for overlooking the fundemental "Why is this a big deal and what's the delineation between boorish and pervert?" along with a generally ambiguous context that could have multiple interpretations from each perspective. You have enabled me to efficiently analyze such a situation in the future.

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Jun 4, 2004
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The way I'm seeing it is he had a lovely kiss during a skit rehearsal that he stopped immediately and apologized for when she got uncomfortable followed by a boorish photo that did not involve touching. Maybe I'm just callous from all the poo poo I've seen but it's not moving the needle much, even if I think it was in poor taste and deserved an apology.

Saying that if it was a Republican I would lose my mind just because I apparently cannot think logically or consistently does not help your case.

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