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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Go vandals


gently caress Garza almost as much as gently caress Ryan Braun.

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Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

Onward to pie!


Comptroll The Forums posted:

I still don't get fan complaints that baseball players aren't getting paid enough. Like, I get that there's a disparity between ownership and labor as far as where the money is going, but $3m is still more money than I will ever make in my life and he's going to make it in a single year. There's nothing "scary" about millionaire baseball players getting less of the millions than the millionaire owners. Wake me when somebody wants to start rallying to make beer at the ballparks cheaper, that's a redistribution of wealth that I can get behind.

Your labor is worth significantly less to your company than a baseball player's is to the revenue of his team

Like literally hundreds or maybe even thousands of times less

UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004


Craptacular! posted:

The price of beer is not reflective of payroll. That one chart showing beer values in 2015 showed that the Angels had some of the best value for beer, while the Twins had one of the worst.

At almost any destination draw, beer is expensive. Go to a movie that has beer, it's expensive. Go to a theme park that serves beer, it's expensive. It's one of the things they won't give away in Vegas, even though beer = bad decisions = better for the house's bottom lines, and you can actually tell when the margins of a property are in trouble if they begin to devalue the cost of beer (free beer at a tourist-driven buffet is a desperate cry for help). At most sporting events I've been to, beer is almost a value simply because non-alcoholic things like Pepsi and ice cream and popcorn are also extremely expensive. Stadia can get away with it because you're in this place for a while and not likely to leave for a few consecutive hours, sometimes outdoors, and you will inevitably want something to do with your hands and mouth.

The gently caress casinos are you going to in Vegas that donít give you free beer while youíre gambling?

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU


I wouldn't be shocked if the owners were seeing the writing on the wall as it regards ESPN, carriage fees and future TV/media revenue and re-evaluating just how much money they want on the books if the bottom drops out and the networks stop being willing or able to meet their obligations.

ESPN has over $7 billion in rights fees obligations at a network that is bleeding thousands of subscribers every day and is estimated to be upside down on the subscriber revenue/rights fees equation by the start of the next decade, unless Amazon or Alphabet decide to jump headlong into sports broadcasting there's no way they're giving MLB $700+ million a year for ~90 regular season games, the All-Star weekend stuff and one Wild Card game.

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

VIVA PUIG


UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

The gently caress casinos are you going to in Vegas that donít give you free beer while youíre gambling?
Yeah that's like Casino 101

cis autodrag
Jan 6, 2012

that's just applause from ghosts




Gary’s Answer

Mustached Demon posted:

gently caress Garza almost as much as gently caress Ryan Braun.

Honestly gently caress Garza more. Braun is a dick, but Garza is a homophobic, transphobic, slutshaming, Bible humping piece of poo poo who probably beats his kids.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

The new coffee delivery sensation that's sweeping the nation!



CubsWoo posted:

I wouldn't be shocked if the owners were seeing the writing on the wall as it regards ESPN, carriage fees and future TV/media revenue and re-evaluating just how much money they want on the books if the bottom drops out and the networks stop being willing or able to meet their obligations.

ESPN has over $7 billion in rights fees obligations at a network that is bleeding thousands of subscribers every day and is estimated to be upside down on the subscriber revenue/rights fees equation by the start of the next decade, unless Amazon or Alphabet decide to jump headlong into sports broadcasting there's no way they're giving MLB $700+ million a year for ~90 regular season games, the All-Star weekend stuff and one Wild Card game.

The ship has already sailed since MLB sold their streaming platform to Disney, but I feel like a lot of it could have been alleviated if MLB had handed over streaming rights to individual teams, same as broadcast rights. I would, for example, absolutely pay for a Cubs streaming service that carried games as well as other RSN-like programming such as Chicago sports news, highlights, etc. It would also help those damned millennials MLB wants so badly to get on board easier since cable cutters could just pick up the streaming package for their specific team. That would be money going directly into the pockets of the owners and could have gone a long way to buffer the inevitable death of revenue via traditional carriage fees.

It would have absolutely hosed up blackout restrictions and would make national broadcast games tricky though, and it's probably far too forward thinking for an organization with as archaic a revenue structure as MLB to be willing to latch on to as well.

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Atomizer posted:

Nah, my filthy mind went immediately something far more immodest that I was hoping would catch someone else's eye. I'm a dirty, dirty goon....

Oh no, I knew. But at the same time, I don't think there's a seat in New Comiskey/The Cell/Guaranteed Rate that isn't visible from any other place in the park, so you'd have to be EXTRA adventurous. Or desperate. Or both.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010


Atomizer posted:

But that's literally just his name, that doesn't tell you anything about how familiar he is with his Iranian side. He grew up in Japan and the US, I have no idea if he's ever even been to Iran or speaks any Persian.



I would guess he is close to his Iranian side. He had Iranian citizenship and Japanese citizenship until he was 22 and was forced to pick one or the other by a draconian Japanese law. I speculate he picked Japanese for his Baseball reasons. His father also runs his marking stuff around the world, and his father`s company owns the "Darvish" trademark. I know all that proves is that he is close to his father but it is a piece in the puzzle.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH


UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

The gently caress casinos are you going to in Vegas that donít give you free beer while youíre gambling?

Those were never truly free. In fact at bartops they're metered out by computer now rather than simply by eye. You actually get a coupon you claim so no more low-stakes bets hoping the bartender takes pity on you.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

"it's a bot! it's a bot!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob


cis autodrag posted:

Honestly gently caress Garza more. Braun is a dick, but Garza is a homophobic, transphobic, slutshaming, Bible humping piece of poo poo who probably beats his kids.

I'm pretty sure Garza's the one who slutshamed Jessica Chastain over Twitter last year for having the gall to assert her own reproductive rights whereas he had premarital sex and a few kids out of wedlock.

ScottyJSno posted:

I would guess he is close to his Iranian side. He had Iranian citizenship and Japanese citizenship until he was 22 and was forced to pick one or the other by a draconian Japanese law. I speculate he picked Japanese for his Baseball reasons. His father also runs his marking stuff around the world, and his father`s company owns the "Darvish" trademark. I know all that proves is that he is close to his father but it is a piece in the puzzle.

Oh I don't doubt any of that, I'm just saying that his given name doesn't reliably tell us if he's closer to one side of the family or the other.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

You're tense, I'm calm. You apply excessive force, I
*snap*
OHHHH HECKUMS


Very rare footage of a time in Cardinals history of them actually being cool and good:

https://i.imgur.com/nQlJRYZ.mp4

Apparently this dude only had 2 career home runs before that. I can't even be mad about it because 1: it owns and 2: I don't even have to look up the game to know we won

IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at Jan 23, 2018 around 13:40

Mage_Boy
Dec 18, 2003

This hotdog is about as real as your story Steve Simmons

Sydin posted:

The ship has already sailed since MLB sold their streaming platform to Disney, but I feel like a lot of it could have been alleviated if MLB had handed over streaming rights to individual teams, same as broadcast rights. I would, for example, absolutely pay for a Cubs streaming service that carried games as well as other RSN-like programming such as Chicago sports news, highlights, etc. It would also help those damned millennials MLB wants so badly to get on board easier since cable cutters could just pick up the streaming package for their specific team. That would be money going directly into the pockets of the owners and could have gone a long way to buffer the inevitable death of revenue via traditional carriage fees.

It would have absolutely hosed up blackout restrictions and would make national broadcast games tricky though, and it's probably far too forward thinking for an organization with as archaic a revenue structure as MLB to be willing to latch on to as well.

There is weird rights to this because of the individual networks. Like I can already stream Pirates games on AT&T Sports with a cable subscription well I can't because gently caress Comcast, but everyone else can. so things like this probably prevent individual team deals.

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iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Grimey Drawer

Mage_Boy posted:

There is weird rights to this because of the individual networks. Like I can already stream Pirates games on AT&T Sports with a cable subscription well I can't because gently caress Comcast, but everyone else can. so things like this probably prevent individual team deals.

It's poo poo like this that makes me glad the Brewers are on Fox Sports WI and not Spectrum Sports or some regional SN that's locked to a carrier.

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