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If the conservatorship continues, I'd say there's a non-zero chance that a dedicated Britney fan "helps" out. It really is wild that this is so public and everyone can see this and yet... nothing happens. It's like every other aspect of our society. These institutions that are rigid, outdated, indifferent, or a combination and do not respond to the needs of the people they're meant to serve. Anyone can see that Britney Spears is clearly a competent woman. And frankly, if she's not, well then it's not like there isn't recourse. But no, it goes on and on. In part because people are enriched and they don't want to lose their Golden Goose.
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Boywhiz88 posted:If the conservatorship continues, I'd say there's a non-zero chance that a dedicated Britney fan "helps" out. I also feel like if she's not competent, the solution is to set her up with other types of failsafes. I feel like even if her father had her best interests in mind, it's still a conflict of interest. Put her on a court ordered allowance based on her finances. Set her up with life counseling. Because this isn't working, and it might make her suicidal. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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Maybe someone should ask “If Ms Spears is so wholly incapable of taking care of herself or her own mental health, then how can she possibly be healthy enough to perform choreographed song and dance routines 5 nights a week?”
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Two thoughts. Conservatorship doesn't end when the conservator dies, either the original one has nominated a successor to carry on the work or the court will choose one.
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Bust Rodd posted:Maybe someone should ask “If Ms Spears is so wholly incapable of taking care of herself or her own mental health, then how can she possibly be healthy enough to perform choreographed song and dance routines 5 nights a week?” This was actually part of her statement.
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In related, "gently caress Fox News", uh...news. quote:The speech was compelling for the same reasons it may be problematic to the court. She spoke very quickly, often profanely, and could seem out of control as she rattled off injustices and the emotional turmoil they have brought her. What the gently caress, dude? quote:"This is why lawyers don’t like their clients speaking a lot," family law attorney Chris Melcher said. "We know what to say and how to say it. Sometimes what the client says can really come back and bite them and end up proving the other side’s case." What the gently caress, other dude? thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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"She seemed emotional about having her life controlled, clearly she's in no state to manage her own affairs" is a nightmarish Kafka/catch-22/mother! situation.
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thrawn527 posted:In related, "gently caress Fox News", uh...news. If this ends up being true then our legal system is a horrible joke. Edit: "A woman in a traumatic situation appears traumatized by her situation, clearly the best thing to do is leave her there forever." Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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I somehow don't think Fox News is a good indicator of anything close to reality. Those excerpts were like classic "women are hysterical and you can't trust their crazy lady emotions!" diagnoses from turn-of-the-century psychiatry.
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The only reason to consume Fox media content is to make yourself mad, that’s all it’s designed to do.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:If this ends up being true then our legal system is a horrible joke. I mean, it is.
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Bust Rodd posted:This is one of those situations that is so transparently hosed up and evil that I feel like there must be some huge piece of the puzzle that I am not getting because it can’t possibly be this blatantly insane, forced by a judge to not have babies because your father has enslaved you to do shows in Vegas five nights a week or you lose the ability to see your kids? What? How? state-supported eugenics was the law of the land in the U.S. in your parents' lifetime and abolition has been more a matter of sanding off the worst parts than actually getting rid of it
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:state-supported eugenics was the law of the land in the U.S. in your parents' lifetime and abolition has been more a matter of sanding off the worst parts than actually getting rid of it yeah, its wild. huge swathes of the western world still did state eugenics way past when ww2 made it "unfashionable". scandinavia, canada, you name it.
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Carthag Tuek posted:yeah, its wild. huge swathes of the western world still did state eugenics way past when ww2 made it "unfashionable". scandinavia, canada, you name it. Israel was doing it like 2 years ago.
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Carthag Tuek posted:yeah, its wild. huge swathes of the western world still did state eugenics way past when ww2 made it "unfashionable". scandinavia, canada, you name it. The norwegian government were sterilizing romani people well into the seventies. One camp that interned and sterilized people weren't closed until 1989.
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Carthag Tuek posted:yeah, its wild. huge swathes of the western world still did state eugenics way past when ww2 made it "unfashionable". scandinavia, canada, you name it. Back in the early 2000's people discovered that my dear Mexico did/and is still doing forced sterilization on indigenous communities. They would trick people by offering them food, medicine, clothing. Or women would be sterilized during their C-section procedure. But don't you dare to ask for tubal ligation with your whole full consent because they will ask you stuff like: a permit from your husband, being 40 years old and have at least 3 kids. And even if you are married have a fuckton of children and are forty a doctor will tell you "but what if you wanna have more kids????". It's loving insanity over here.
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Skwirl posted:Israel was doing it like 2 years ago.
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Desperado Bones posted:Back in the early 2000's people discovered that my dear Mexico did/and is still doing forced sterilization on indigenous communities. They would trick people by offering them food, medicine, clothing. Or women would be sterilized during their C-section procedure. its loving insanity everywhere
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Desperado Bones posted:Back in the early 2000's people discovered that my dear Mexico did/and is still doing forced sterilization on indigenous communities. They would trick people by offering them food, medicine, clothing. Or women would be sterilized during their C-section procedure. My wife (36 at the time) had a tubal ligation after our second kid. They had to do a c-section because my kids are irish twins and the first one was an emergency c-section. She told the doctor a little before we were going in to deliver and the doctor said, while glaring at me, there are other options if you don't want anymore kids. I did offer, but since they were in there already my wife wanted it done. The doctor said her main concern was the possibility of an ectopic pregnancy.
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Mr. Toodles posted:My wife (36 at the time) had a tubal ligation after our second kid. They had to do a c-section because my kids are irish twins and the first one was an emergency c-section. She told the doctor a little before we were going in to deliver and the doctor said, while glaring at me, there are other options if you don't want anymore kids. I did offer, but since they were in there already my wife wanted it done. The doctor said her main concern was the possibility of an ectopic pregnancy. The thing is that in my country they don't tell you the actual risks. They are more worried about you not being a baby making machine anymore. I think even other contraceptives methods are denied sometimes. And yet they are 100% okay to do the procedure on indigenous women or trick them in to taking the pill (they tell them it's "vitamins")*. * Before you ask how's that possible. We, in general, have a terrible sex education in schools and for decades they would only teach abstinence. :/ Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 26, 2021 |
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My High School in Upstate NY was in a very conservative mountain community and we had abstinence only sex education and that’s why our valedictorian was 3 months pregnant during our graduation speech.
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A 1933 letter I found in an institutional archive while researching the retarded brother of my great grandfather: quote:Sir Inspector Nielsen, quote:NN will probably be discharged in the near future, as her uncle will care for her somewhat. Which was obviously dictated, I find it hard to see a difference between this and Britney Spears' situation. My great-uncle was also sterilized.
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What really gets me about this whole thing is that if this can happen to a rich, famous, attractive white woman and she has no recourse, what the gently caress chance does anybody else in that situation have?
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LividLiquid posted:What really gets me about this whole thing is that if this can happen to a rich, famous, attractive white woman and she has no recourse, what the gently caress chance does anybody else in that situation have? That’s why this sounds so crazy, you will never ever hear about everyone else this has been done to.
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Spears has essentially been groomed from early youth to make other people money. That's pretty much the young Disney star pipeline.
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LividLiquid posted:What really gets me about this whole thing is that if this can happen to a rich, famous, attractive white woman and she has no recourse, what the gently caress chance does anybody else in that situation have? Oh it is TERRIFYING what the laws allow. Basically everything in our legal system related to the treatment of the mentally ill or anyone with any kind of mental process that deviates from the norm should be entirely rewritten. None of it was designed to protect or help neural divergent people, just to make it easier to either strip away their rights or dispose of them.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Oh it is TERRIFYING what the laws allow. Basically everything in our legal system related to the treatment of the mentally ill or anyone with any kind of mental process that deviates from the norm should be entirely rewritten. None of it was designed to protect or help neural divergent people, just to make it easier to either strip away their rights or dispose of them. As someone who suffers from mental illness, I consider myself... incredibly lucky for never having been incarcerated against my will, or lost any basic rights as an adult. More mentally ill friends of mine than I can count or think of right now have been locked up at some point in their young adulthood by family members they trusted implicitly - sometimes they're thankful for it, usually they're not. What's even worse, in a way, is that they were the lucky ones for having family members that cared enough to do anything. We dismantled the whole system of putting the mentally ill in state institutions for clear reasons, but didn't replace it with anything. There's a tremendous amount of mentally ill people who are homeless, bouncing between hospital, jail, and the streets. That's where most people in Britney's position not lucky enough to be rich, talented, or loved end up, sad to say.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Oh it is TERRIFYING what the laws allow. Basically everything in our legal system related to the treatment of the mentally ill or anyone with any kind of mental process that deviates from the norm should be entirely rewritten. None of it was designed to protect or help neural divergent people, just to make it easier to either strip away their rights or dispose of them. "We just don't want to have to ever think about you" is the motivation behind so much heinous bullshit.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Oh it is TERRIFYING what the laws allow. Basically everything in our legal system related to the treatment of the mentally ill or anyone with any kind of mental process that deviates from the norm should be entirely rewritten. None of it was designed to protect or help neural divergent people, just to make it easier to either strip away their rights or dispose of them. Someone, maybe a journalist, tried running a serious experiment where they pretended to be 'slightly unwell' to get admitted, then just acted normally inside. Not only did the doctors/staff refuse to believe there was nothing wrong they insisted that acting "normal" was actually a symptom of serious mental illness. The person had accounted for that, basically made a ton of prep and contacted a ton of people in advance in case they couldn't get out, and eventually despite friends, family and coworkers trying to prove to the staff it was a experiment it took serious legal threats from their newspaper before they were released.
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pentyne posted:Someone, maybe a journalist, tried running a serious experiment where they pretended to be 'slightly unwell' to get admitted, then just acted normally inside. Not only did the doctors/staff refuse to believe there was nothing wrong they insisted that acting "normal" was actually a symptom of serious mental illness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly (1887) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment (1973) Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jun 30, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/mymixtapez/status/1409922992344375301?s=21
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Didn't this shitbag get outed as a creep once already?
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CelticPredator posted:What a picture that is Dude is 29 but looks and dresses like a 14 year old.
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AceOfFlames posted:Dude is 29 but looks and dresses like a 14 year old. I mean, Disney Channel.
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It's not really surprising that a studio system for kids shows which abused girls also produced young men who turned out to be abusers, but it's drat depressing.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It's not really surprising that a studio system for kids shows which abused girls also produced young men who turned out to be abusers, but it's drat depressing. I mean, I get what you’re saying, but they were almost certainly also victims of abuse themselves. That’s the nature of the cycle. It’s not an excuse, but I think it’s more likely that they develop this behavior from being victimized, not because they’re, like, modeling their behavior on watching producers molest other kids
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