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Whoever you spoke to was right. I don't ever need to see another film about how sympathetic, interesting, and sexy an absolutely monstrous man is.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm still pretty sure pedophilia is not a compulsion unless you're talking about people with severe mental disabilities and unable to control themselves, but at best a fetish. There isn't one type of pedophile, some are developmentally disabled adults who see themselves as basically kids and so don't really seem to get what's wrong about it, some are just losers who strike out with any adult they ever meet so they aim at softer targets, some see it as the ultimate 'edgy fetish' and get off on the taboo*, some experience it as a involuntary compulsion and may or may not despise themselves for it. There are probably others because I'm just regurgitating some possible reasons from a long essay I read years ago. * The example who comes to mind there is Nu Metal rockstar and pedophile Ian Watkins, whose behaviour seemed less about him being directly attracted to infants so much as he was attracted to enjoying being a complete piece of poo poo. massive spider fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Oh cool, another excuse to dismiss and ignore actual wrong doing by others.
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Self described? If you had to fake being the great grandson of a star from the 20-30s, why would you pick Moe Howard?
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Stories like these are at least a kind of nice counter to the narrative that any significant number of normal women would view false accusations as a path to easy money or whatever. It's pretty easy to completely blow up your life by making poo poo up and then inviting heavy scrutiny from the court system, which is why mostly only people with some serious issues would try it.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Self described? If you had to fake being the great grandson of a star from the 20-30s, why would you pick Moe Howard? https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/...ulative-fiction (Jason Colavito is a cool pseudoscience/pseudoarchaeology debunker—he’s not my original source for learning about the time the History Channel based an entire season of a show called Hunting Hitler around a photo of Moe, but this blog entry was the first best thing that popped up when I googled it)
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RevKrule posted:https://twitter.com/GuardianAus/status/1440886503861850112?s=20 You're not kidding. "Your life can be ruined forever," says man being honored for his lifetime of work.
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RevKrule posted:https://twitter.com/GuardianAus/status/1440886503861850112?s=20 
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Ok Comboomer posted:https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/...ulative-fiction Dang, everybody needs to leave Moe alone.
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I honestly don’t have the energy to follow the Johnny Depp / Amber Heard stuff anymore, the whole thing is just a whirlwind of garbage from every angle. I don’t have anything nice to say about Amber Heard but it’s wild how eager people are to unleash some ‘justified’ misogyny every time the situation comes up, she’s like the Harvey Weinstein for MRAs.
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Ror posted:I honestly don’t have the energy to follow the Johnny Depp / Amber Heard stuff anymore, the whole thing is just a whirlwind of garbage from every angle. I don’t have anything nice to say about Amber Heard but it’s wild how eager people are to unleash some ‘justified’ misogyny every time the situation comes up, she’s like the Harvey Weinstein for MRAs. Inducing fatigue and muddling the issue in the minds of the public is the point of the never-ending legal and PR war waged by Depp.
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People twist themselves in knots trying to figure out who was the bad one when a relationship becomes toxic and, like, it's possible from two people to be poo poo at the same time. I don't even mean the truth is in the middle, blah blah. This whole thing is just poisoned well after poisoned well because it's not even about those two anymore. MRAs really just want to blame everything on her, and people really don't want to hate Johnny Depp, and it's just this huge mess of he said she said and it's weird that there are teams like in sports. LividLiquid fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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Johnny Depp lost his defamation suit against The Sun when they called him a wifebeater, in a lawsuit against a paper with a reputation for dishonesty, where he was the plaintiff in the British courts where plaintiffs in defamation suits have the inside track.
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well why not posted:I have spoken, in real life, to someone who said "it's time to tell new stories that aren't about horrible old men in the past". There's been at least 3 biopics and 2 documentaries on Ted Bundy released in the last 3 years, I'd be lying if I said at times I don't get that feeling too
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LividLiquid posted:Not sure I see your point. The outcome of the court case should settle any discussion, since it's been proven in court, where Depp had all the advantages, that he is, in fact, a domestic abuser.
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edogawa rando posted:The outcome of the court case should settle any discussion, since it's been proven in court, where Depp had all the advantages, that he is, in fact, a domestic abuser. Not to be too facetious, because I believe Johnny Depp probably abused Amber Heard. But a court of law also proved OJ Simpson didn't murder Nicole Simpson.
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edogawa rando posted:The outcome of the court case should settle any discussion, since it's been proven in court, where Depp had all the advantages, that he is, in fact, a domestic abuser.
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Skwirl posted:Not to be too facetious, because I believe Johnny Depp probably abused Amber Heard. But a court of law also proved OJ Simpson didn't murder Nicole Simpson. He sued The Sun, a paper with a dogshit reputation as a bunch of lying liars - just look up their coverage of the Hillsborough disaster - in the British courts, where the defendants are the ones that have the burden of proof to show that they did not defame the plaintiff. In other words, Depp sued in a court where he had a very strong expectation of victory because the way in which defamation suits are structured in Britain overwhelmingly favour the plaintiff. The courts nevertheless found that while his reputation had been damaged, The Sun's coverage was "substantially true." Like, the outcome of the trial, in a just world, would have absolutely obliterated any credibility Depp has on the matter. LividLiquid posted:Okay. I not only didn't say he wasn't, I said the opposite. And I'm saying "yeah, as it was proven in a British court, in circumstances that weighed the outcome in his favour." Why you're getting so worked up about this, I have no idea.
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Acting like your opponent is super angry when they're not isn't a trick that works on me, friend. Particularly since this is hardly a debate. I think they're both abusers. If you want to argue with me, go ahead, but so far all you've done is repeat something that proves one of them definitely is, then acted as if you were refuting my assertion.
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You're the only one making this an argument, champ. Which goes back to my previous question: what are you getting so worked up over?
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Skwirl posted:Not to be too facetious, because I believe Johnny Depp probably abused Amber Heard. But a court of law also proved OJ Simpson didn't murder Nicole Simpson. That's not how not guilty verdicts work.
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pentyne posted:this is basically one step away from the "discussion is endorsement" Yeah. This is the same thought line that leads to “we should ban Harry Potter because author is bad now and Potter is pro cop/racist stereotypes and not as inclusive as we now demand all art to be”. LionArcher fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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Ror posted:I honestly don’t have the energy to follow the Johnny Depp / Amber Heard stuff anymore, the whole thing is just a whirlwind of garbage from every angle. I don’t have anything nice to say about Amber Heard but it’s wild how eager people are to unleash some ‘justified’ misogyny every time the situation comes up, she’s like the Harvey Weinstein for MRAs. I never have wanted to dive into that one but is it clear at this point they both sucked? Like not saying he’s not worse or whatever but wasn’t it confirmed she was abusive too? Or did I read a few bad takes on Twitter and get it jumbled up?
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The younger Cuomo is also a dirtbag. The apology -- somehow directed mainly at the husband -- is also telling and gross. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/chris-cuomo-cnn.htmlquote:So here’s another moment involving Mr. Cuomo, the one that stands out most in my experience with him.
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LionArcher posted:I never have wanted to dive into that one but is it clear at this point they both sucked? Like not saying he’s not worse or whatever but wasn’t it confirmed she was abusive too? Or did I read a few bad takes on Twitter and get it jumbled up? Yeah they were both pieces of poo poo to each other and physically abusive to each other.
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Vegetable posted:The younger Cuomo is also a dirtbag. The apology -- somehow directed mainly at the husband -- is also telling and gross. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/24/opinion/chris-cuomo-cnn.html He didn't get fired over giving PR advice to his brother while covering his brother's scandal, he's not gonna get fired over this, sadly.
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LionArcher posted:I never have wanted to dive into that one but is it clear at this point they both sucked? Like not saying he’s not worse or whatever but wasn’t it confirmed she was abusive too? Or did I read a few bad takes on Twitter and get it jumbled up? I don’t know what kind of people they are, and I always feel like anyone judging people (celebrities or otherwise) based on their acrimonious divorce proceedings is kind of poor form. No one is going to look good in a snapshot from one of the worst times in their life, especially when much of what you’re hearing is coming from their aggrieved soon-to-be ex.
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Phylodox posted:I don’t know what kind of people they are, and I always feel like anyone judging people (celebrities or otherwise) based on their acrimonious divorce proceedings is kind of poor form. No one is going to look good in a snapshot from one of the worst times in their life, especially when much of what you’re hearing is coming from their aggrieved soon-to-be ex. yes but in this case they both took each other to court, and now he's been taking a bunch of other people/publications/etc to court, over alleged physical abuse on both sides
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loving took long enough. The nonce was on camera doing a sex with a teenage girl, and it took a further 20+ years for anything to happen to that loving piece of poo poo.
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If only there was some way we could have known about his criminal activity earlier.
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ImpAtom posted:If only there was some way we could have known about his criminal activity earlier. If only he’d been to court for it two decades ago If only Dave Chapelle had made a wildly popular sketch about it and put it on a DVD with record sales
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Ok Comboomer posted:If only he’d been to court for it two decades ago I don't really think Dave Chapelle even took it that seriously. He was obviously not on R. Kelly's side but the whole thing was just "lol, he pee peed on girl." rather than going hard on him for being a monster.
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CPL593H posted:I don't really think Dave Chapelle even took it that seriously. He was obviously not on R. Kelly's side but the whole thing was just "lol, he pee peed on girl." rather than going hard on him for being a monster. oh yeah, absolutely but my point was that people couldn’t say that they didn’t know all about it. Like I was 14 and I knew about it honestly the jokes are much worse in that context because, like you said, the well-being of the girl doesn’t even rate a footnote in anyone’s concerns like at any moment, it’s “lol he’s a pervert” people have been doing this forever—once you label or contextualize a woman or girl as a “ho”, be it to mean “sex worker”, “groupie”, “gold digger”, or simply “slut”, her well-being/internal state/consent stops mattering. Like it doesn’t even matter that she’s a literal child, she was there to starfuck, ergo she just a(nother) ho.
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