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inferis posted:Yeah surely it’s coincidental that the guy who started a podcast with woody Allen as his first guest is an associate of a convicted pedophile. loving lol, I didn't know that.
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thrawn527 posted:I don't remember that. I know he tries to force himself on the woman at the rehab clinic (ew), but that doesn't work, so later he blackmails into sex (double ew). He's then creepy with the one woman in the bathtub with the shoes. But I don't remember actual forceable rape like in Goldfinger (attempted followed by blackmail, which, yeah, terrible, but he forcibly rapes Pussy Galore in a barn in Goldfinger). Alan Moore really did a good job writing what Bond actually was in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
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# ? Oct 22, 2021 18:43 |
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Basebf555 posted:There's no concrete information about the circumstances of when he pulled the trigger. He may not have been loving around, it may have been like a POV style shot where he was supposed to be firing towards the camera. Yeah, a lot of actors are producers as vanity titles. It's basically a way for them to get more money, but most of them don't really do anything. Either way, it's really sad. Halyna was a talented person, and I think we shouldn't lose sight of that.
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# ? Oct 22, 2021 20:03 |
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https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set Some of the crew had walked off set and were replaced by scabs that morning.
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# ? Oct 22, 2021 22:19 |
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Alec Baldwin was the producer so surely sag should kick him out now right?
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# ? Oct 22, 2021 22:26 |
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Those texts keep being deleted so imma wait until things get confirmed
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# ? Oct 22, 2021 23:10 |
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CelticPredator posted:Those texts keep being deleted so imma wait until things get confirmed I mean, the LA Times story two posts up confirms that union people walked off the set.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 00:40 |
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Yeah people walked off. I’m just not gonna buy those specific texts until they are confirmed
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 02:30 |
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That thing about Jimmy Fallon most likely facilitating the grooming and sexual exploitation of minors by Horatio Sanz sure disappeared fast. Between poo poo like that and the fact that Fallon has such status in television without even a hint of talent I've always wondered if he has something on someone big.
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CPL593H posted:That thing about Jimmy Fallon most likely facilitating the grooming and sexual exploitation of minors by Horatio Sanz sure disappeared fast. Between poo poo like that and the fact that Fallon has such status in television without even a hint of talent I've always wondered if he has something on someone big. Fallon does a killer Neil Young impression
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 05:16 |
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CPL593H posted:That thing about Jimmy Fallon most likely facilitating the grooming and sexual exploitation of minors by Horatio Sanz sure disappeared fast. Between poo poo like that and the fact that Fallon has such status in television without even a hint of talent I've always wondered if he has something on someone big. I doubt it goes much deeper than Lorne Michaels liking him.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 13:19 |
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inferis posted:Yeah surely it’s coincidental that the guy who started a podcast with woody Allen as his first guest is an associate of a convicted pedophile. Also he opened that podcast with a statement that Woody Allen is completely innocent and that the accusations are all false. Which yeah I assumed that's what he believed because he had him on as a guest, but for him to literally say that is something else alright.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 13:42 |
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Also Leno was on for years so no accounting for taste. I also don’t think people should jump to conclusions that a story is dead. The Sanz stuff was not a well researched Farrowesque takedown or a criminal investigation. It was reporting on a lawsuit. That doesn’t diminish the claims, but there is nothing else to report besides the lawsuit. You do have to look at what happens in the longrun. There was a bunch of dead silence on Cuomo’s accusers and then one day it all came crashing down. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:Also Leno was on for years so no accounting for taste. That's a valid point but it's not like show business managing to sweep a bunch of sexual assault and pedophilia under the rug is much of a stretch.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 01:39 |
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CPL593H posted:That's a valid point but it's not like show business managing to sweep a bunch of sexual assault and pedophilia under the rug is much of a stretch. See the BBC
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 01:42 |
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Jimmy Fallon is a talentless hack who only has the Tonight Show because he kept his mouth shut while NBC did Conan dirty, but the worst accusation you can make against him based on available statements is he didn't narc out a minor for drinking underage.
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CPL593H posted:That's a valid point but it's not like show business managing to sweep a bunch of sexual assault and pedophilia under the rug is much of a stretch.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Also Leno was on for years so no accounting for taste. The lawsuit is also still happening iirc, so when actual court dates occur there will be more information that comes out
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 02:05 |
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Just a bit of insight into 'Baldwin is a producer! He's responsible too!'. That's possibly the case, but given that he's one of like eight I'm not sure how involved he would be in the day to day of things. https://twitter.com/Timobros/status/1452271653329715208?t=g4PWqoZX3FSzTHst6wetsQ&s=19
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 11:15 |
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thought this subject was way too much of a tangent but well poo poo https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/24/entertainment/rust-shooting-assistant-director-halls-complaints/index.html quote:A crew member who also worked in the productions but requested to not be named for fear of retaliation corroborated Goll's accounts, saying that when Halls did hold safety meetings, they were short and he was dismissive, saying the guns used would be the same as the production always uses, and questioning why they'd have to hold the meetings in the first place. quote:On the allegations of sexual misconduct, Goll said she did not file a complaint, but says that "on my first day back on the series, another crew member told me to 'watch out' for Dave, saying he was too physically familiar with the crew, despite many rebuffs and complaints about unwanted and unnecessary touches. Nothing too extreme, but crew members of all genders and dispositions were being made uncomfortable by Dave's touches to their backs, waists, shoulders, etc."
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 13:45 |
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DrVenkman posted:Just a bit of insight into 'Baldwin is a producer! He's responsible too!'. That's possibly the case, but given that he's one of like eight I'm not sure how involved he would be in the day to day of things.
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DrVenkman posted:Just a bit of insight into 'Baldwin is a producer! He's responsible too!'. That's possibly the case, but given that he's one of like eight I'm not sure how involved he would be in the day to day of things. Again - this is the problem with non-unionized labor. There is no standard.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Again - this is the problem with non-unionized labor. There is no standard. Yeah, the calls for 'banning' props and using CGI muzzle flashes doesn't really address the problem. It's non-union, unqualified, overworked and underpaid staff. Look at the death of Sarah Jones on MIDNIGHT RIDER for example. But I feel the argument around all this has turned into a guns issue. I listened to something the other day that called it 'systemic' which is a weird way of putting it when gun deaths on set are exceedingly rare.
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 12:30 |
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I'm guess the union vs. non-union labor issue is being purposely overlooked because the powers that be don't want to bring it to the public's attention.
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah, the calls for 'banning' props and using CGI muzzle flashes doesn't really address the problem. It's non-union, unqualified, overworked and underpaid staff. Look at the death of Sarah Jones on MIDNIGHT RIDER for example. But I feel the argument around all this has turned into a guns issue. I listened to something the other day that called it 'systemic' which is a weird way of putting it when gun deaths on set are exceedingly rare. The Sarah Jones thing is beyond belief.
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 15:08 |
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Also don't normal prop guns have different chamber sizes from real guns to prevent this very thing from happening? Like he wasn't firing a prop gun he was firing a normal gun that was just pinky promise filled with blanks.
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 15:10 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:Also don't normal prop guns have different chamber sizes from real guns to prevent this very thing from happening? Like he wasn't firing a prop gun he was firing a normal gun that was just pinky promise filled with blanks. Well, when you have a competent crew handling things, it's not a pinky promise. But when you cut corners and have an AD who actively ignores safety regulations and belittles every safe guard, that's a recipe for disaster.
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 16:05 |
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The Union stuff also gets a little murky. It was in fact a Union shoot, but when they threatened to walk over conditions that morning someone brought in scabs from a local film school and had the Uniom members removed from the shoot. The head armorer for the shoot was still on set at the time of the incident, so either she was never Union or she stayed against the wishes of the Union and was no longer representing the Union. This was only her second movie as head armorer so I can her getting pressured to stick around to avoid a reputation as 'difficult'. Then there's the latest news that the gun was loaded with live ammunition because someone decided the scabs should be allowed to fire some guns off to 'get a feel for them' and was then never cleared of live ammo.
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 16:47 |
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if i was a producer i probably wouldn’t continue as usual after the people in charge of guns quit and there were already multiple accidental discharges
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 17:34 |
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Veteran prop master turned down 'Rust' film: 'An accident waiting to happen' https://news.yahoo.com/veteran-prop-master-turned-down-230617847.html '"There were massive red flags," he said in an interview Sunday with The Times. He said he felt that "Rust" was too much of a slapdash production, one with an overriding focus on saving money instead of a concern for people's safety. Production managers didn't seem to value experience and were brushing off his questions, he said. Zoromski ultimately told "Rust" production managers that he would take a pass. "After I pressed 'send' on that last email, I felt, in the pit of my stomach: 'That is an accident waiting to happen,'" he said. ... And the deal breaker? Zoromski said he initially asked for a department of five technicians. He was told that "Rust" was a low-budget production and that plans were to use items from a local prop house. He modified his request to have at least two experienced crew members: one to serve as an assistant prop master and the other as an armorer, or gun wrangler, dedicated to making sure the weapons were safe, oiled and functioning properly. But the "Rust" producers insisted that only one person was needed to handle both tasks. "You never have a prop assistant double as the armorer," Zoromski said. "Those are two really big jobs."'
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# ? Oct 26, 2021 23:36 |
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It's a little hosed up that we know the names of so many people involved in the RUST incident and nothing about how involved the producers were in decision making. Were they there or not?
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 10:38 |
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I can give you a pretty definitive answer for one of them, I guess
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:25 |
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The other question I haven't seen addressed in dozens of articles I've read is whether or not cameras were rolling when the shooting took place.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 21:09 |
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It's been reported that Baldwin was rehearsing a shot where he draws a gun and points it at the camera. I know nothing about film sets so I dunno if it's normal for camera to be rolling during rehearsals in the digital age. I feel like if there was a recording its existence would have been leaked by police by now but who knows.
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Zogo posted:The other question I haven't seen addressed in dozens of articles I've read is whether or not cameras were rolling when the shooting took place. As per the sheriff's press conference today, no footage exists of the shooting: https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1453395207957975048
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 23:36 |
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Eggnogium posted:It's been reported that Baldwin was rehearsing a shot where he draws a gun and points it at the camera. I know nothing about film sets so I dunno if it's normal for camera to be rolling during rehearsals in the digital age. I feel like if there was a recording its existence would have been leaked by police by now but who knows. Some people roll on rehearsal. But it’s not required.
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# ? Oct 28, 2021 07:32 |
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This is a pretty good piece about the murky world of someone being credited as a Producer. https://twitter.com/mynette/status/1453385466657579008?t=8qPZLBckZGP8NOSd9fpyyA&s=19 It's notable that either there was no Line Producer on this, or they had their name taken off it on IMDB. Baldwin had apparently supported the crew in striking, so I wonder if the whole thing became one of those 'just tell me where to stand and do my lines so I can get out of here' shitshows.
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Skwirl posted:Led Zeppelin basically kidnapped a girl for a week and nothing happened. What a way to respond to some poo poo. "You think bad thing is bad? What about other bad thing? Was that bad? Checkmate. Yeah. Yeah, other bad thing was also bad. Next question. Shageletic posted:Alan Moore really did a good job writing what Bond actually was in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. He hated it so much he never acted again.
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LividLiquid posted:Yeah, I get a lot of poo poo off David Bowie fans for letting people know that he hosed kids, and the response when it's somebody who knows about me is usually "weren't Led Zeppelin your favorite band?" I don't blame him too much, if the Wachowskis had directed League of Extraordinary Gentleman and whoever did League instead directed The Matrix, League would absolutely be the better of the two movies.
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LividLiquid posted:Yeah, I get a lot of poo poo off David Bowie fans for letting people know that he hosed kids, and the response when it's somebody who knows about me is usually "weren't Led Zeppelin your favorite band?" you dont have to say led zeppelin is your favorite band you know
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