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Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~




Chris James 2 posted:

It was alleged that he'd invite media members to parties at the mansion. With cameras and mics being installed in every room in the building, eventually one thing would lead to another somehow, and any attempts at bad publicity from their workplace would basically be dead in the water or else it'd be revealed what their employees (and in some cases bosses) got up to in the place they were criticizing

He had tapes of everyone obviously, not just media, and they were "collateral" but it wasn't expanded on much. In the event of his death his executive secretary was instructed to destroy all the sex tapes, and an assistant said she was told they were put in a barrel that was then tossed to sea

Here's all the stuff https://www.eonline.com/news/1317141/secrets-of-playboy-bombshells-sex-rings-kidnappings-and-fbi-investigations

Yeah that makes sense the playmates mansion seems like a giant sexual harassment palace.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.


Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Yeah that makes sense the playmates mansion seems like a giant sexual harassment palace.

I mean that's basically its mission statement. Just seems quaint in the post-Epstein age.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




thrawn527 posted:

...why would that be how they destroyed them? I mean, burning them would be easier, wouldn't it?

It doesn't matter, it's just a bizarre cherry on top.

It would be pretty lol if they washed up somewhere

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


I actually remember that getting reported on after his death, it kind of got laughed at in a 'I'm sure all those dead celebrities he taped are resting easy now' way. That and TMZ was throwing tons of money around trying to get to them before they were dumped in the ocean.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005
free av


you'd think at least one would be willing to have him killed

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

😶😯😮😲🥱😲😮😯😶
The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.



Alan Smithee posted:

you'd think at least one would be willing to have him killed

He probably told the people he was blackmailing that his death would result in the tapes release, even if he didn't really intend to do that.

Human Tornada
Mar 3, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.


Maybe "Hugh Hefner is a Sleaze" wasn't a headline worth whacking someone over.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005
free av


it is if it's that instead of "Piss Tape is real"

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!

Fallen Rib

Hugh Hefner: Epstein Lite.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

😶😯😮😲🥱😲😮😯😶
The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.



Sloth Life posted:

Hugh Hefner: Epstein Lite.

Like this is sleazy as hell and definitely a crime, but I think that description either oversells how bad Hefner's actions were or undersells how bad Epstein's were. The recording sex without people's consent is terrible, but unless there's another story, near as I know all the actual sex was happening between consenting adults in LA. Epstein was paying people huge sums of money to kidnap 14 year olds from Eastern Europe to act as sex slaves on a private island.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



Skwirl posted:

Like this is sleazy as hell and definitely a crime, but I think that description either oversells how bad Hefner's actions were or undersells how bad Epstein's were. The recording sex without people's consent is terrible, but unless there's another story, near as I know all the actual sex was happening between consenting adults in LA. Epstein was paying people huge sums of money to kidnap 14 year olds from Eastern Europe to act as sex slaves on a private island.
Adults: yes. Consenting: Dubious.

Just from the linked article above:

quote:

Women were pressured into sleeping with Hefner if they wanted to be Playmate of the Year:

Madison recalls most of the women feeling pressured to sleep with Hefner if they wanted to be considered for Playmate of the Year, claiming, "Not every single one of them did, there were a few exceptions, but I think a lot of people felt like they had to."

quote:

Hefner allegedly "pimped" bunnies out to VIPs who drugged them, the latter of which Miki Garcia testified about in front of Congress:

According to playboy Dona Speir, it was commonplace for the women to be hired to entertain the high rollers during events, claiming, "It was like they were pimping us out." Former playmate Christy Thom adds that it felt like they were "prostitutes." In 1985, Miki Garcia testified in front of the U.S. Commission on Pornography, claiming that "more than one" playmate participated in an international call-girl ring, according to The Chicago Tribune. In episode seven, Miki claims that women were being "coerced into terrible things" by Hefner and other Playboy staff, who "trapped" the models with "unfair" contracts.

quote:

There were “shadow mansions” where women were drugged and assaulted:

Jennifer Saginor claims in episode nine that there were "shadow mansions" that emulated the Playboy mansion. And though Hefner settled down with wife Kimberly Conrad, the mini mansions continued to flourish, with Saginor claiming that the men would set up "fake photoshoots," where they'd promise aspiring models potential contracts. Saginor alleges that the nude photos and videos that were taken of the women were used to blackmail them into having sex with guests.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

😶😯😮😲🥱😲😮😯😶
The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.



Okay, I somehow missed the accusations of drugging models and letting VIPs rape them that's much worse than recording it. I still think he isn't Epstein level terrible. Don't get me wrong, if hell exists Heffner should definitely be burning forever here, but if there's a worse Hell, Epstein should be in that one.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


The preferred age of Epstein/Maxwell's victims was like six months younger than the preferred age of Hefner's, honestly not too sure what the difference is.

Violen
Jul 25, 2009

ohoho~


this is not a worthwhile contest to debate

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005
free av


https://twitter.com/ExileGrimm/status/1485658379116814343

im sorry what

Sodomy Hussein
Oct 9, 2005



A lot of forces spent a long time trying to scrub Hefner's behavior as that of a social liberal who just happened to be a libertine who must be forgiven his eccentricities.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I just couldn't look at your old avatar anymore
Fucking nauseating!



Wasn't she 14 in her Calvin Klein ads?

There's a lot of extremely blatant high profile sexualization of young girls from the 80s every decade prior to now in major marketing campaigns and publications that everyone just seems to forget was a thing.

I think this was one of the later ones before the backlash started getting to a point where it was causing too much negative media attention.

quote:

Abercrombie & Fitch Co., an apparel retailer that is no stranger to controversy, has sparked outrage again by selling thong underwear to young girls.

The American Family Assn. said Wednesday that it has been assured by the retailer that it was pulling the underwear from its Abercrombie stores, a chain for girls and boys ages 7 to 14.

The company did not respond to calls seeking comment.

Some underwear had the words “wink wink” and “eye candy” printed on the front, said Don Wildmon, founder and executive director of the Tupelo, Miss.-based association.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jan 26, 2022

Sodomy Hussein
Oct 9, 2005



Where even to begin with Abercrombie & Fitch, especially in the "Mike Jeffries, CEO and Psychopath at Large" era (most of its history). It's amazing that A&F still exists in any fashion, though it seems to be fading fast.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007


deoju posted:

The dude who played Harry Potter in that play in London got fired for unspecified allegations from the woman who played Ginny. There was an internal investigation and they decided to can him.

https://www.vulture.com/2022/01/jam...1&utm_source=tw

How long till Rowling sends him a bouquet of roses?

emo-ignorance
Jun 11, 2020



Brooke Shields was 10 when she posed naked for photographer Gary Gross. The picture later ended up in Playboy. I don't know if it was specifically taken for Playboy or just sold to it afterwards, but either way it's still insane.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"


That’s like a serial killer named Marty Murder

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl



Sodomy Hussein posted:

A lot of forces spent a long time trying to scrub Hefner's behavior as that of a social liberal who just happened to be a libertine who must be forgiven his eccentricities.

Hey, worked for Larry Flynt, right?

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007



emo-ignorance posted:

Brooke Shields was 10 when she posed naked for photographer Gary Gross. The picture later ended up in Playboy. I don't know if it was specifically taken for Playboy or just sold to it afterwards, but either way it's still insane.

What the actual gently caress.

poo poo like The Blue Lagoon or the "nothing gets between me and my Calvins" was skeezy enough as it is. This just adds a whole new layer of "loving ew" to it.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006




College Slice

edogawa rando posted:

What the actual gently caress.

poo poo like The Blue Lagoon or the "nothing gets between me and my Calvins" was skeezy enough as it is. This just adds a whole new layer of "loving ew" to it.

That and Olivia d'Abo doing Bolero when she was 14 are things I wish were not things.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Phylodox posted:

That and Olivia d'Abo doing Bolero when she was 14 are things I wish were not things.

She was over sexualized in Conan the same year. It's really skeevy looking back.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





emo-ignorance posted:

Brooke Shields was 10 when she posed naked for photographer Gary Gross. The picture later ended up in Playboy. I don't know if it was specifically taken for Playboy or just sold to it afterwards, but either way it's still insane.

I went to college with a different guy who had the same name. The Gary I knew was a thoroughly decent guy!

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Rhyno posted:

She was over sexualized in Conan the same year. It's really skeevy looking back.

Ok wow, I mean it’s a bad sequel but something always seemed off about her in it, like she seemed… childish? And now I get it and ugh.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.


AlternateAccount posted:

Ok wow, I mean it’s a bad sequel but something always seemed off about her in it, like she seemed… childish? And now I get it and ugh.

Yeah, you could easily write a character like that without making her a literal child and then casting a literal child as her.

Peyote Panda
Mar 10, 2019



Grendels Dad posted:

Yeah, you could easily write a character like that without making her a literal child and then casting a literal child as her.
Fortunately the movie made it okay by casting Arnold Schwarzenegger and Wilt Chamberlain to protect her innocence.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe



Yeah, I watched that Conan movie for the first time about 6 months ago, and thought she looked familiar. I looked her up and realized I knew her from her guest appearances on Law and Order: Criminal Intent (she's done plenty else, but she was really memorable on that show as Vincent D'Onofrio's arch nemesis). My first thought was, "Oh cool! That's where I know her from!" Then I started doing some mental math on when the movie came out, thinking, "Wait a minute...how old could she have been when this came out? Oh gently caress no." Looked that up, and yeah, that's messed up.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?


I also only knew her as gorans arch nemesis (some of the best episodes ever) and this is the first time i’ve ever heard of bolero.

According to imdb : Set in the 1920s, a young woman sets out to lose her virginity. Her mission leads her to a Moroccan sheikh and a Spanish bullfighter.

Olivia d'Abo, who was 14 at the time, appeared nude in several scenes.

Olivia D'Abo said in an interview in 1986 that she matured physically at age 13, a year before making this movie. In fact she said director John Derek thought she had breast implants until she took her clothes off on set the first time and he saw her breasts were natural.

Jesus wept.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007



Meanwhile, in Chris Brown news...

https://www.avclub.com/chris-brown-sued-drug-rape-allegation-1848439603


The only surprise is that he hadn't been accused earlier.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010


Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I also only knew her as gorans arch nemesis (some of the best episodes ever) and this is the first time i’ve ever heard of bolero.

According to imdb : Set in the 1920s, a young woman sets out to lose her virginity. Her mission leads her to a Moroccan sheikh and a Spanish bullfighter.

Olivia d'Abo, who was 14 at the time, appeared nude in several scenes.

Olivia D'Abo said in an interview in 1986 that she matured physically at age 13, a year before making this movie. In fact she said director John Derek thought she had breast implants until she took her clothes off on set the first time and he saw her breasts were natural.

Jesus wept.

amazing, litrally every part of this is somehow the worst part. It's an ouroboros of awfulness.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible





Snowman_McK posted:

amazing, litrally every part of this is somehow the worst part. It's an ouroboros of awfulness.

Also, the "young woman" who's mentioned, was played by Bo Derek, who was 28 at the time.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.



How in the hell were nude pictures of a 10 year old in a smut mag not considered child pornography? Even if the pictures were not originally sexual in nature, putting them into Playboy sure makes them sexual.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007



Hell, the last thing I’d want to see when I open a skin mag for a solid wank session is a loving child. Jesus Christ.

I’m reasonably certain most of you would agree.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



edogawa rando posted:

Meanwhile, in Chris Brown news...

https://www.avclub.com/chris-brown-sued-drug-rape-allegation-1848439603


The only surprise is that he hadn't been accused earlier.

When it comes to Brown, he has some incredibly talented PR handlers who project an image of him just being your pal and all cuddly, to the point that there's still a not-insignificant group of people who still think Rihanna had it coming back in 2009, because she dared to see who the hell he kept texting.

Because breaking her face is obviously a justifiable response to her finding out you're cheating on her.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Timby posted:

When it comes to Brown, he has some incredibly talented PR handlers who project an image of him just being your pal and all cuddly, to the point that there's still a not-insignificant group of people who still think Rihanna had it coming back in 2009, because she dared to see who the hell he kept texting.

Because breaking her face is obviously a justifiable response to her finding out you're cheating on her.

I remember a few different comedians getting death threats from Chris Brown fans on twitter for mocking him

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

I saw most of Pretty Baby just randomly picking movies one evening and I was not loving prepared for it in the slightest. Like, I think it's trying to say something worthwhile about child abuse and trafficking kids into sex work but it definitely feels on the wrong side of exploitative and creepy. Maybe something happens in the last chunk that fixes it somehow but I doubt it.

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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?


Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I also only knew her as gorans arch nemesis (some of the best episodes ever) and this is the first time i’ve ever heard of bolero.

According to imdb : Set in the 1920s, a young woman sets out to lose her virginity. Her mission leads her to a Moroccan sheikh and a Spanish bullfighter.

Olivia d'Abo, who was 14 at the time, appeared nude in several scenes.

Olivia D'Abo said in an interview in 1986 that she matured physically at age 13, a year before making this movie. In fact she said director John Derek thought she had breast implants until she took her clothes off on set the first time and he saw her breasts were natural.

Jesus wept.

Of course it was John Derek, as he moved to German with her when she was 16 to get away from the United States age of consent laws

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